Kuglin Beats IRS - Transcripts
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
WESTERN DIVISION
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
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Plaintiff, )
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VS. ) NO. 03-20111-Ml
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VERNICE KUGLIN, )
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Defendant. )
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TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
VOIR DIRE OF THE JURY
BEFORE THE HONORABLE JON PHIPPS MCCALLA, JUDGE
AUGUST 4, 2003
VOLUME I
BRENDA PARKER
OFFICIAL REPORTER
SUITE 942 FEDERAL BUILDING
167 NORTH MAIN STREET
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 38103
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A P P E A R A N C E S
Appearing on behalf of the Plaintiff:
TERRELL L. HARRIS, ESQ.
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
SUITE 800 FEDERAL BUILDING
167 NORTH MAIN STREET
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 38103
By: JOSEPH MURPHY, ESQ.
Appearing on behalf of the Defendant:
LOWELL H. BECRAFT, JR.
209 LINCOLN STREET
HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA 35801
ROBERT G. BERNHOFT, ESQ.
207 EAST BUFFALO STREET
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 53202
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1 MONDAY MORNING & AFTERNOON
2 AUGUST 4, 2003
3 The voir dire in this case began on this date,
4 Monday, August 4, 2003, at 10:35 o'clock a.m., when and
5 where evidence was introduced and proceedings were had as
6 follows:
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10 THE COURT: Are we about to ready to bring our
11 panel around so we can proceed with jury selection?
12 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, can I take up one
13 real quick matter?
14 THE COURT: Sure.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Friend of mine is a lawyer from
16 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, his name is Bob Bernhoft. He called
17 me and he wanted to help me with this case, and I have
18 invited him to come down and he's going to sit here, and I
19 wanted to introduce him to the court. He filed a motion
20 for pro hac vice admission, but what he's going to do is
21 just assist me during the course of the trial if the court
22 doesn't mind.
23 THE COURT: Sure, that's fine.
24 MR. BERNHOFT: Thank you, Judge.
25 THE COURT: Let me get your last name again.
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2 MR. BERNHOFT: Yes, Bernhoft, B-E-R-N-H-O-F-T,
3 first name is Robert, and I filed a courtesy copy with
4 chambers of that pro hac vice motion that has got my bar
5 numbers, et cetera in there.
6 THE COURT: All right. That's fine. We can
7 bring the --
8 THE CLERK: They're on their way.
9 MR. MURPHY: Judge, just one thing, I -- I
10 would like to discuss how we're going to handle voir dire
11 today. I would like to suggest that it might be a good
12 idea for the court to do it. This is -- this is a case
13 where they're alleging a good faith defense, I take it.
14 THE COURT: They are.
15 MR. MURPHY: Based on what has been provided to
16 me.
17 THE COURT: Right.
18 MR. MURPHY: And we need to just be real
19 careful that the jury doesn't get confused on what the law
20 is in these tax issues. It's a sensitive subject.
21 THE COURT: Well, I have been letting the
22 lawyers do a good portion of the voir dire. It certainly
23 seems to make most lawyers happy.
24 MR. BECRAFT: I wouldn't mind asking some
25 questions, Your Honor.
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1 MR. MURPHY: I would rather you ask most of
2 them.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Oh, okay.
4 THE COURT: And I would -- Mr. Murphy -- I feel
5 like, Mr. Murphy -- of course, you always go first in
6 this -- that you can maybe deal with that issue also --
7 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
8 THE COURT: -- to some degree. I'll ask enough
9 questions so that you'll have plenty of time to organize
10 your voir dire.
11 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir. Judge, I've got voir
12 dire organized, it's just -- you know, taxes are things
13 people have strong feelings about.
14 THE COURT: They don't like them.
15 MR. MURPHY: They don't like them.
16 THE COURT: Right, but I think y'all have to
17 deal with that and talk about people not being swayed by
18 that sort of point of view.
19 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: Sure.
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, there's just one other
22 thing. Mr. Becraft has submitted some materials to me
23 that the defense is going to use in its presentation of
24 the case, and just so he's not waylaid, at some point I
25 think it would be a good idea to sit down and talk about
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1 how we're going to handle that, because if you read the
2 cases that deal with the question of how the defendant
3 proves their good faith defense, there's some things
4 that -- in that that bear -- what we take the position are
5 incorrect statements of the law, and generally people are
6 allowed to read those into the record -- portions of those
7 into the record, but the -- that document is not admitted.
8 There's some things that I have no doubt they're
9 admissible and I'm not going to oppose their introduction,
10 and there's other things that I may or may not oppose, but
11 it would be a good idea, I think, if we talked about it
12 beforehand.
13 MR. BECRAFT: If the floor is open, I'll tell
14 the court what I plan on doing, just so the court will
15 know in advance. Your Honor, in a tax evasion case or
16 willful failure to file case, intent to commit a crime is
17 real important. The government must prove that, and the
18 defense is, you know, basically good faith and lack of
19 criminal intent. Now, that requires, quite often, that
20 the defendants testify about their beliefs about the law,
21 and I want to tell the court that this is exactly what I'm
22 going to do, and it will probably eliminate certain
23 objections that Mr. Murphy is going to have. I'm going to
24 get up -- when we get up and give our opening statements,
25 I'm going to tell the jury that all she is going to
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1 testify about is her beliefs about the law and that the
2 court is going to give the instructions on the law that is
3 relative to this case. When we start getting into the
4 meat of the defendant's motion, that's exactly what I'm
5 going to ask the defendant, you know, are you going to
6 testify about your beliefs about the law, and you
7 understand that the court is to instruct the jury on what
8 the law is itself. I think that giving that at least two
9 or three times, especially coming from the defense,
10 telling the jury in advance that she is just going to be
11 testifying about her beliefs probably eliminates a lot of
12 objections that come from the prosecution. And that's
13 what I intend on doing. I'm going to do that in opening.
14 I'm going to tell the jury that we're going to be
15 testifying about beliefs about the law, and I'm going to
16 tell the jury that you are going to instruct the jury on
17 the law, and the defendant will, in front of the jury when
18 she testifies, in essence, say the same thing. But I
19 think that addresses a lot of the government's objections.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Well, as soon as we get our
21 panel here, we'll start. I will go back and wait until
22 they get here. Be back as soon as they get here.
23 THE CLERK: All rise.
24 (Recess taken at 10:45 until 10:50 a.m.)
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2 (Jury panel in at 10:50 a.m.)
3 THE COURT: Ladies and gentlemen, I want to
4 thank you for serving today as a juror. I know you're all
5 just anxious to be here, right? How many people don't
6 have power yet? Anybody? One person. Who is back there?
7 I'm going to let you go home if you want to. How are you
8 doing today?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm fine.
10 THE COURT: You would probably rather be here
11 because it's cooler. We got power about 8:30 last night
12 so maybe you will get it today. I thought we were going
13 to be last in the city, but -- where are you located?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kirby and Mt. Moriah.
15 THE COURT: I don't know, it has been really
16 slow, but maybe you will get your power today.
17 Let me tell you, folks, how many people had
18 power for -- never lost power? Okay. All of you get to
19 be on the jury. How many of you were out of power for
20 more than a week? A lot of you. Yeah, how many more than
21 ten days? Yeah, I get to be in that group. More than
22 twelve days? Yeah, just two of us. Where are you --
23 where do you live?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Me?
25 THE COURT: Yes, ma'am.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Over off of Lamar.
2 THE COURT: Yeah, I know, we were really slow
3 getting our power back. You got it yesterday?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
5 THE COURT: What time?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: This morning.
7 THE COURT: You got it this morning?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
9 THE COURT: I got mine late last night, so they
10 told me they were going to throw one more switch and see
11 if it came on, and actually it did.
12 Well, what we're going to do today is select a
13 jury in a criminal case and in order to do that, we're
14 going to have to -- I was waiting on Mrs. Saba to get
15 here. We have to first swear you all in, and so if you
16 will all stand and raise your right hand. Thank you.
17 THE CLERK: Do you and each of you solemnly
18 swear that the answers to the questions to be propounded
19 to you by the court in this case for which you may be
20 drawn as a juror to be the truth, the whole truth and
21 nothing but the truth, so help you God?
22 THE JURY PANEL: I do.
23 THE CLERK: You may be seated.
24 THE COURT: All right. What we're going to do
25 is we're going to call 14 names and have them sit up here
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1 in the jury box. And, Mr. Tuggle, you may need to move
2 that TV back just a little bit for folks so that the ones
3 back there can see. The first person whose name is called
4 will be asked to sit in seat number one. That's the seat
5 closest to me on the first row, and the second person in
6 seat number two and so forth, all the way down to seat
7 seven, and then we're going to go to seat eight through
8 14. If your name is not called, that does not mean that
9 you will not be called as a juror; it just means that
10 we're going to ask these 14 individuals some questions.
11 Pay attention to the questions, though, as they're asked,
12 because you'll need to answer the same questions if your
13 name is called.
14 THE CLERK: Lashaunda Vasser. Walter White.
15 Larry Spurlin. Muhammad Salaam. William Vedder. Lee
16 Scott. Regina Starnes. Kay Gupta. Linda Saul. Andrew
17 Viverette. Jeffrey Stovall. Alphonso Smith. Frank
18 Vickers. Keith Smith.
19 THE COURT: Who is our first juror?
20 THE CLERK: Lashaunda Vasser.
21 THE COURT: I need to ask you a few questions
22 about being a juror in a criminal case, and the first
23 thing I usually start out is -- I start with Ms. Vasser,
24 and I ask what do you think is the most important
25 characteristic for a juror. Think about it if you were
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1 somebody sitting over there on the other side, what would
2 be most important for you about a jury, what would you
3 want? Ms. Vasser, what's the most important
4 characteristic for a juror to have?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Honesty.
6 THE COURT: That's good. Okay. I'm going to
7 make a list here.
8 Let's go to Mr. White. Mr. White, what is
9 another characteristic?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The ability to assess fact.
11 THE COURT: Ability to assess fact. All right.
12 I didn't get your name down right, so tell me your last
13 name again.
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Spurlin.
15 THE COURT: Spurlin, I knew I didn't have it
16 right. Mr. Spurlin, what is another characteristic that
17 you would want in a juror?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: To be open-minded.
19 THE COURT: Open minded.
20 Is it Mr. Salaam?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
22 THE COURT: What is another characteristic of a
23 juror?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Attentiveness.
25 THE COURT: Attentiveness, okay. So we have
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1 got an honest person who is able to assess the facts who
2 is open-minded and attentive.
3 Is it Mr. Vedder?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
5 THE COURT: Another characteristic for a juror?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Common sense.
7 THE COURT: Common sense. Actually, I will
8 give an instruction on that. You should have common
9 sense. Apply your common sense.
10 Okay. Mr. Scott, another thing?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I guess you could say be
12 able to weigh the evidence.
13 THE COURT: Be able to make a decision, to
14 weigh the evidence. You know, it always gets a little
15 harder as we go along.
16 Ms. Starnes -- but we have left out a couple of
17 big things, a couple of big things -- what would you want
18 as a juror?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: To be impartial.
20 THE COURT: To be impartial. We have still got
21 some to go. We have got an honest person who is able to
22 assess the facts who is open-minded, attentive, uses their
23 common sense, is able to weigh the evidence and is
24 impartial.
25 All right. And, Mr. Smith, another thing you
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1 would want from a juror?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would want someone to be
3 a very good listener.
4 THE COURT: A good listener, absolutely. Good
5 listener.
6 All right. And, Ms. Vickers, something else?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: To be able to be
8 emotionally present here with what we're doing.
9 THE COURT: Emotionally -- what do you mean by
10 that?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, to not have our
12 thoughts and feelings about what's at home to be
13 emotionally present.
14 THE COURT: To be -- to be focused on the case.
15 I'm going to say focused on the case because the other was
16 a little -- I have got you there. Focused on the case.
17 Mr. Smith?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would say someone that's
19 not prejudiced against anything.
20 THE COURT: Somebody who is not prejudiced,
21 exactly. Mr. Stovall, what is a kind of -- what types of
22 prejudice are we concerned about, because that's true --
23 Mr. Stovall, I'm going back to Mr. Stovall. Because, Mr.
24 Smith, we have got a long list now, and we're down to an
25 honest person who is able to assess the facts, who is
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1 open-minded, attentive, uses their common sense, who is
2 able to weigh the evidence, who is impartial, a good
3 listener, focuses on the case and who is not prejudice.
4 That's really a good list. I mean that's ten words which
5 are really good descriptors, and usually when I get to the
6 point on somebody who is not prejudiced or -- and somebody
7 said impartial, which is another way of saying that, we
8 start talking about what ways can people be prejudice.
9 What ways are people sometimes prejudice?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Race and religion.
11 THE COURT: Race and religion are common ways
12 in which people have prejudice. And, of course, it's
13 inappropriate to consider them, but it is important to
14 know that they're out there. And both of them have been
15 in the news a lot, so that's certainly -- certainly two
16 important ones.
17 Well, are there other things that -- is it Mr.
18 Viverette?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
20 THE COURT: Mr. Viverette, other things that
21 people can be prejudiced -- how old are you, Mr.
22 Viverette --
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sixty-four.
24 THE COURT: You're 64. Anybody ever prejudiced
25 because of age as far as you know? Maybe not, you have
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1 never run into that. Ever heard about that, though?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I've heard of it.
3 THE COURT: Heard that people -- anybody older
4 than 64? I think I have gotten my senior most panelist.
5 We will have to wait -- I will remember that.
6 I will remember that.
7 Sometimes people will say you can't do the job
8 because you're 64, because you're 60, because you're over
9 55 --
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
11 THE COURT: -- whatever it is. And they don't
12 look at you and see that you get around, you do -- you're
13 perfectly capable and healthier than a lot of people who
14 are 40. Some people might not look at that. So that
15 would be a prejudice, a preconceived notion about
16 somebody's ability simply based on age, and that's never
17 happened to you? Nobody has ever --
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
19 THE COURT: That's good. That's because you
20 don't look 64.
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
22 THE COURT: I understand what you're saying
23 there.
24 Ms. Saul, another thing people can be prejudice
25 about?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, other than religion
2 and color?
3 THE COURT: Race, religion, age?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Gender could be another
5 one.
6 THE COURT: Gender?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
8 THE COURT: Do you think sometimes women are
9 treated differently than men?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I personally have not been,
11 but I have seen other people.
12 THE COURT: You think every football coach in
13 high school is automatically eligible to be the high
14 school principal?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
16 THE COURT: I'm not saying that's an area of
17 prejudice, but some people might say there does seem to be
18 sort of a disproportionate number of football coaches that
19 who gets to be principals of high schools. That's not
20 always true, and I don't want anybody to get that
21 impression.
22 THE WITNESS: Right, right. Depends on the
23 person.
24 THE COURT: But some people might say, well,
25 they didn't consider that female librarian, but they did
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1 consider somebody else. So they looked at it and they
2 said that person can do a better job because of their
3 gender, maybe.
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right. Depends upon the
5 person, whether it is male or female, just depends upon
6 their capabilities.
7 THE COURT: It does exist.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
9 THE COURT: That's possible. Now, I'm going
10 to -- is it Mr. Gupta?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
12 THE COURT: Other types of prejudice? Where
13 are you from?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm from India.
15 THE COURT: You're from India?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
17 THE COURT: Nobody is ever prejudiced against
18 people who are not born in the United States, are they?
19 Sometimes they are.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I hope not.
21 THE COURT: You hope not. Hopefully, not you.
22 But it can be national origin too, is that a fair one to
23 put in the group?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would certainly like to
25 put that.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. National origin. All right.
2 We have got a good set of things people can be prejudice
3 about.
4 Now, I'm going to have you pass that back to
5 Ms. Vasser. She is right in front of you.
6 Ms. Vasser, we have got a good list of things
7 that you have to watch out what you want in jurors and
8 some things you don't want. You don't want people
9 prejudice, and we went through some things there. I want
10 you to do something. We have got five people over there.
11 We have got three people over there and two people over
12 there. One person out there is a defendant in this case.
13 Can you look out there and tell me which one it is? You
14 got the gentleman with the beard and the glasses on there
15 and the lady with -- got her hand on her -- all right --
16 chin on her hand. Gentleman with the red tie over there,
17 the lady that's blonde, lady right there, and the fellow
18 with the dark hair and glasses and another kind of darker
19 red tie right there. Which one do you think is the
20 defendant? They all look eligible, don't they? I'm
21 kidding you.
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I was starting to get
23 worried because they're eyeballing me.
24 THE COURT: Okay. He kind of stood up and
25 threw you off there. He's still in the pool, we don't
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1 want to leave him out. Who do you think the defendant is?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm going to say the lady
3 in the black suit.
4 THE COURT: Which one now?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Dark hair.
6 THE COURT: The blonde?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, not the blonde.
8 THE COURT: The brunette?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Brunette.
10 THE COURT: Brunette is the one.
11 Why do you pick her out? Usually what happens
12 is they pick out somebody who looks a little different.
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
14 THE COURT: That's the most common thing for
15 people to do. We always have that -- now, I probably
16 threw you off, because usually people pick out if there's
17 a guy with a beard, and Mr. Murphy stood up, they often
18 pick out --
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He stood up, so I
20 eliminated him.
21 THE COURT: But if he had sat there -- often we
22 pick out somebody who looks a little different, and I'm
23 not saying you look that different, but somebody who looks
24 somewhat different, so we had, you know, two red ties --
25 we had three red ties, put the ties together, maybe they
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1 all look alike, I don't know. But you have a fellow with
2 a beard. All the men wore glasses, so that made it
3 harder, you know. You had a mustache and a beard, that
4 makes that kind of hard to pick out. You had somebody who
5 was a blonde lady, somebody who is -- so you went with the
6 brunette lady.
7 Okay. She is the IRS agent. She is the IRS
8 agent. We do this for a very specific purpose, and that
9 is we all also judge people often on how they look.
10 I'm going to hand that to Mr. White right next
11 to you. Mr. White, you and I don't have much hair, right?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's correct.
13 THE COURT: People make assumptions about
14 people who don't -- mostly good assumptions about people
15 who don't have much hair, I suppose. At least you and Mr.
16 Salaam and I all think the same on that. But they will
17 make assumptions about that, won't they?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
19 THE COURT: And that's just not fair. Is it?
20 It's not a fair way to proceed. And so what we have to do
21 is in order to get rid of prejudice, we have to stop
22 seeing that person as a person who has on, you know, a
23 black jacket, white -- kind of beige, that might be white,
24 I just can't see very well. You know, we have to not make
25 a judgment. Now, I asked Ms. Vasser to do that because
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1 that's part of the illustration. She did exactly what I
2 wanted her to do, which is pick out somebody. In this
3 case, is it appropriate -- would it be unfair, though, to
4 judge anybody on how they appear?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
6 THE COURT: Okay. How do we avoid that, doing
7 that? Because the first thing we all do, we all know is
8 we look around and we see somebody and we start making
9 judgments about that person, often very unfairly. Usually
10 completely unfairly, but we do that. How do we avoid
11 doing that in this case? How do we avoid judging people
12 based on appearance?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: By listening to the facts
14 of the case.
15 THE COURT: That's exactly right, and you said
16 ability to assess facts earlier, which is exactly that.
17 We listen to the evidence. We listen to the facts, and we
18 put aside preconceived notions about people based on
19 appearance, based on, you know, hair style, based on
20 anything else, we put those all out of our mind.
21 Do you think, Mr. Spurlin, that that is
22 possible for people to do?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't think always.
24 THE COURT: It's not always?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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1 THE COURT: It's difficult?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
3 THE COURT: Have you found yourself on occasion
4 sort of having prejudged somebody and found out you were
5 just wrong?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: On occasion.
7 THE COURT: I mean --
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I mean it's not often. I
9 have done it in the past.
10 THE COURT: Right. Sometimes you will think
11 somebody is a good guy, and they turn out not to be a good
12 guy. You think somebody is a bad guy, and it turns out
13 they're not a bad guy.
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
15 THE COURT: It's a natural thing for people to
16 assess things based on appearance, but in a case, in a
17 trial, if we always did that, who would always get off and
18 who would always get convicted? I'm going to ask Mr.
19 Salaam, who would always get off if we just went on
20 appearance and who would usually get convicted?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, the wrong person
22 would get convicted, and the right person would walk.
23 THE COURT: Right, exactly, because we would be
24 looking at people and just making a superficial
25 determination instead of looking hard at the evidence, and
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1 we can all think about that that is just inherently unfair
2 in our society. So that's what we're going to have to
3 avoid today.
4 Now, I did mention -- and, Mr. Murphy, I'm now
5 going to let you -- I'm going to now let you introduce
6 yourself and who is with you, and I'm going to let counsel
7 for the defense introduce himself and those who are with
8 him, and you're going to know who the parties are. But
9 you're not supposed to judge them based on their
10 appearance.
11 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Your Honor. My name is
12 Joe Murphy, ladies and gentlemen. I'm an assistant United
13 States attorney here in Memphis, Tennessee, and sitting
14 with me today will be Ms. Debbie White. She is an IRS
15 agent with the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS.
16 Thank you.
17 THE COURT: All right. Thank you, Mr. Murphy.
18 And, of course, they represent the United
19 States.
20 Yes, sir.
21 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court, my name
22 is Larry Becraft. I'm an attorney that is here to
23 represent the defendant in this case. I also have a
24 friend of mine that is going to be helping me. He's a
25 lawyer. His name is Bob Bernhoft. This is the man right
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1 here, and for those who didn't guess who is remaining, the
2 lady right here is the defendant. Her name is -- we call
3 her Vernie Kuglin.
4 THE COURT: And it is K-U-G-L-I-N?
5 MR. BECRAFT: That is correct, Your Honor.
6 THE COURT: So it is Ms. Kuglin. Well,
7 hopefully, that exercise was useful to all of you to go
8 through this process and say, you know, maybe we ought not
9 to judge a book by its cover, we ought to wait and see
10 what the content is in the case, and that's -- we usually
11 try to go through that.
12 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to need to tell
13 you a little bit about the case, because the government is
14 always -- in these criminal cases is always the party that
15 goes first, and it is the government, and before we do
16 that, though, I'm going to go to Mr. Vedder, do you think
17 you should automatically believe the government because
18 they are the government?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Now, do you have times in
21 your life where you have not agreed with the government on
22 things?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I spent 24 years in the
24 military, sir.
25 THE COURT: You always agreed with the
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1 government, is that right? But now -- you're retired now,
2 right?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
4 THE COURT: So now you can disagree with them
5 if you want to.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
7 THE COURT: All right. Would you hesitate to
8 disagree with the government if you thought that the
9 evidence, which is what we have been talking about all the
10 time, the way we have to decide this case, said that you
11 didn't believe the government theory? Now, it's not a
12 matter of personally -- the lawyers don't know anything
13 personally in the case, so it's not a matter of believing
14 or disbelieving one of the attorneys, but will you decide
15 this case solely on the evidence and not decide it for the
16 government just because it is the government?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Strictly on the evidence,
18 sir.
19 THE COURT: Right. And you see the importance,
20 everybody has got to be able to do that.
21 Now, hand that to Mr. Scott. Mr. Scott, have
22 you ever had a disagreement with anybody in government?
23 Maybe not.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I worked 31 years for the
25 VA Hospital.
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1 THE COURT: For the VA Hospital?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
3 THE COURT: Are you retired now?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, on occasion, I kind
5 of had a small problem.
6 THE COURT: Okay. Are you retired -- you're
7 retired?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Because of that.
9 THE COURT: We can talk about it if we need to.
10 Does that mean that you're -- since you worked for the VA
11 for a long time, actually longer than Mr. Vedder was in --
12 which branch of the service were you in, Navy, Mr. Vedder?
13 Which branch of the service were you in?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Army.
15 THE COURT: Army. Okay, Army.
16 And we have got the VA. Mr. Scott, are you
17 going to, again, just like Mr. Vedder, be able to decide
18 the case based on the evidence and not be inclined to just
19 agree with the government, which, of course, you worked
20 for the government also all these years?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I will be able to.
22 THE COURT: If the government does not prove
23 the case beyond a reasonable doubt, you understand that
24 you have to decide for the defendant?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Nods head up and down).
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1 THE COURT: Okay. That's right.
2 All right. And then we go to Ms. Starnes. Ms.
3 Starnes, who do you work for?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Medical doctors.
5 THE COURT: Okay. Physicians. Which group?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Raleigh Cordova Medical
7 Group.
8 THE COURT: Okay. Well, do you have any
9 problem with the fact that you might have to disagree --
10 well, you have no obligation to agree with the position of
11 the government, just because it is the government; does
12 that make sense to you?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
14 THE COURT: Okay. And if Mr. Murphy presents
15 proof beyond a reasonable doubt on the issues in this
16 case, then, of course, you have to find the defendant
17 guilty, but if they fail to do that, you have to find the
18 defendant not guilty. Is that -- is that something you
19 can live with?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
21 THE COURT: Okay. You now understand we're
22 going to decide this case solely on the case, not on those
23 other things we shouldn't consider, and we're going to be
24 that kind of juror that we have all outlined here today.
25 I'm going to hand it back to Mr. Smith. I'm
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1 going to ask -- you said you need to be a good listener in
2 the case. Do you agree -- one thing we didn't talk about
3 is a person has to be very patient in deciding the case
4 because you have to wait until the end of all the
5 evidence. You can't decide the case as you go along. Can
6 you do that in this case? You have to wait until you hear
7 it all, and then you hear Mr. Murphy's final argument and
8 you hear Mr. Bernhoft's final argument, and then you get
9 my instructions on the law, and then you decide the case,
10 can you wait that long? You have got to wait a long time
11 in these cases.
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, Your Honor, you have
13 to.
14 THE COURT: Absolutely, because you don't know
15 all the evidence until you've weighed it and heard
16 everything. If you decide it based on the first witness,
17 well, that would just be fundamentally unfair.
18 All right. Well, I'm going to tell you a
19 little bit about the charges in the case, and then I'm
20 going to let the lawyers ask some questions in the matter.
21 I am going to -- anybody ever had a dispute with the IRS?
22 Or y'all just happily pay your taxes? All right. You
23 know, I do want you to tell me later on if you have had a
24 dispute with the Internal Revenue Service or something
25 like that, it's relevant. It doesn't mean that you can't
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1 be a good juror, in fact, you might be a better juror for
2 it, but it's something we would want to know about. I'm
3 going to tell you a couple of things. There are -- there
4 is more than one count in this indictment and there's
5 going to be some critical language. I'm going to read the
6 indictment one time right now. I may refer back to it
7 later on and refer back to portions of the indictment; and
8 at the end of the case, you will get a copy of the
9 indictment, you'll get a verdict form, and you'll get a
10 written set of instructions as well as oral instructions
11 which I'm required to give you.
12 Now, the fact that somebody has been indicted
13 does not mean anything about their guilt or innocence.
14 It's simply a way of telling you what the charges are. If
15 we didn't have this mechanism, the defendant would have no
16 way to know how to prepare to confront the charges at
17 trial, so it's a matter of fairness to a defendant. It is
18 not -- and it's a matter of notice to you and me as to the
19 nature of the charges, but it is not evidence at all.
20 Now, is the fact that somebody has been
21 indicted, Mr. Smith, something that would cause you to
22 start to make up your mind -- and I think it's -- well,
23 Ms. Vickers, I'll ask you, is it something that would
24 cause you making up your mind, somebody has been indicted,
25 they must have done something wrong?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think that's a natural
2 thing to -- if they're there, that possibly they have.
3 THE COURT: But you remember when -- it's
4 totally inappropriate. Does it seem also possible to go
5 back to neutral and say that's totally inappropriate to
6 give that any weight at all?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir. And your last
8 question, let me say, even though I haven't had any
9 personal whatever with the IRS, but I have worked in an
10 accounting office 18 years for a CPA firm that had
11 interaction, and because of this, I know a lot of times
12 people get put in those situations and they're not guilty.
13 THE COURT: Right. And I assume -- I have
14 never worked in a CPA office, but I will accept your word
15 on that.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
17 THE COURT: The point being, though, that
18 everybody starts out with a clean slate. Nobody has any
19 black marks on it, you don't get a black mark on it or a
20 negative mark on it for having been charged with an
21 indictment. You're entitled to a jury that will not start
22 out with preconceived notions about your guilt, or for
23 that matter, your innocence. Well, they have to have a
24 preconceived notion about your innocence, you're innocent
25 until proven guilty. They start out, this person is
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1 innocent, and the government has to prove beyond a
2 reasonable doubt that they're guilty.
3 All right. Let me tell you -- I'm also going
4 to tell you that there are six charges in this case --
5 counts, and the number of counts is also not important.
6 You can't say, well, had it been one, I wouldn't have been
7 bothered, but there's six. Otherwise, how would the
8 government always assure a conviction, Mr. Smith, if the
9 number of counts made any difference? They would just
10 charge with you a bunch of counts, wouldn't they?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
12 THE COURT: Right. And that would not be a
13 fair way for our system to proceed. So that -- we know
14 that on each count, a person is presumed innocent, and the
15 government has to prove that count, and the facts that
16 support that count beyond a reasonable doubt even. If
17 they prove another count beyond a reasonable doubt, that
18 still doesn't prove that particular point. So each one is
19 considered separately and independently.
20 Okay. Well, this is what the indictment says.
21 Count 1. That during the calendar year 1996, the
22 defendant, Vernice B. Kuglin.
23 MR. BECRAFT: Kuglin, Your Honor.
24 THE COURT: Kuglin. I'm going to try to get
25 that right. Ms. Kuglin had and received taxable income in
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1 the sum of approximately $162,883.75, that well knowing
2 and believing the foregoing facts, the defendant on or
3 about April 15th of 1997, in the Western District of
4 Tennessee, did un-- did willfully attempt to evade and
5 defeat said income tax due and owing by her to the United
6 States of America for said calendar year by failing to
7 make an income tax return on or before April 15, 1997, as
8 required by law, to any proper officer of the Internal
9 Revenue Service and by failing to pay the Internal Revenue
10 Service said income tax, in violation of Title 26, United
11 States Code, Section 7201.
12 Count 2. That during the calendar year 1997,
13 the defendant, Vernice B. Kuglin, had and received taxable
14 income in the sum of approximately $147,999.60, that well
15 knowing and believing the foregoing facts, the defendant
16 on or about April 15, 1998, in the Western District of
17 Tennessee, did willfully attempt to evade and defeat the
18 said income tax due and owing by her to the United States
19 of America for said calendar year by failing to make an
20 income tax return on or before April 15, 1998, as required
21 by law, to any proper officer of the Internal Revenue
22 Service by failing to pay the Internal Revenue Service an
23 income tax, and by filing a false recall Form W-4 in 1997,
24 in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section
25 7201.
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1 Count 3. That during the calendar year, 1998,
2 the defendant, Vernice B. Kuglin, had and received taxable
3 income in the sum of approximately $137,197.93, that well
4 knowing and believing the foregoing facts, the defendant
5 on or about April 15th of 1999, in the Western District of
6 Tennessee, did willfully attempt to evade and defeat the
7 said income tax due and owing by her to the United States
8 of America for said calendar year by failing to make an
9 income tax return on or before April 15, 1999, as required
10 by law, to any proper officer of the Internal Revenue
11 Service, by failing to pay the Internal Revenue Service
12 said income tax, and by filing a false W-4 -- Form W-4 in
13 1998, in violation of Title 26, United States Code,
14 Section 7201.
15 Count 4. That during the calendar year 1999,
16 the defendant, Vernice B. Kuglin, had and received taxable
17 income in the sum of approximately $146,571.66, that well
18 knowing and believing the foregoing facts, the defendant
19 on or about April 15, 2000, in the Western District of
20 Tennessee, did willfully attempt to evade and defeat the
21 said income tax due and owing by her to the United States
22 of America for said calendar year by failing to make an
23 income tax return on or before April 17, 2000, as required
24 by law, to any proper officer of the Internal Revenue
25 Service, by failing to pay the Internal Revenue Service
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1 said income tax, and by filing a false Form W-4 in 1999,
2 in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section
3 7201.
4 Count 5. That during the calendar 2000, the
5 defendant, Vernice B. Kuglin, had and received taxable
6 income in the sum of approximately $164,224.28, that well
7 knowing and believing the foregoing facts, the defendant
8 on or about April 15, of 2000, in the Western District of
9 Tennessee, did willfully attempt to evade and defeat the
10 said income tax due and owing by her to the United States
11 of America for said calendar year by failing to make an
12 income tax return on or before April 16, 2001, as required
13 by law, to any proper officer of the Internal Revenue
14 Service, by failing to pay the Internal Revenue Service
15 said income tax and by filing a false Form W-4 in 2000, in
16 violation of Title 26, United States Code, section 7201.
17 Count 6. That during the calendar year 2001,
18 the defendant, Vernice B. Kuglin, had and received taxable
19 income in the sum of approximately $161,189.07, that well
20 knowing and believing the foregoing facts, the defendant
21 on or about April 15th of 2002, in the Western District of
22 Tennessee, did willfully attempt to evade and defeat the
23 said income tax due and owing by her to the United States
24 of America for said calendar year by failing to make an
25 income tax return on or before April 15, 2002, as required
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1 by law, to any proper officer of the Internal Revenue
2 Service by failing to pay the Internal Revenue Service
3 said income tax and by filing a false Form W-4 in 2001, in
4 violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 7201.
5 Well, six counts, basically, saying pretty much
6 the same thing, not exactly the same thing each time.
7 Sometimes something involving a Form W-4, sometimes not,
8 for the years '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001.
9 Well, now, you all agreed that you wouldn't
10 decide the case without hearing the evidence, and I just
11 read you the indictment and now you're sitting there
12 thinking some things, right? And the important thing to
13 remember about an indictment is that it is just a charge.
14 It's awfully hard to do, because the inclination of every
15 human being is to do what? Let's see, I'm going to
16 mispronounce it, Mr. Stovall -- it's Jeffrey?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Stovall.
18 THE COURT: I'm sorry, Mr. Stovall. What's the
19 natural inclination after hearing six somewhat repetitive
20 charges for different years on a failure to file income
21 tax return case -- I'm generally characterizing it that
22 way, what is the natural inclination for most people to
23 do?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Prejudge.
25 THE COURT: Say, my goodness, you know -- and
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1 so, I'm going to go to your colleague right next to you,
2 our senior member of the panel, Mr. Viverette, and how do
3 you not prejudge these charges? How do you avoid -- is it
4 hard to do, hard not to prejudge?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir. Yes, it is.
6 THE COURT: It's hard.
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: With the amount of charges,
8 of course.
9 THE COURT: It's a hard thing to do. You know,
10 if it is one charge, you sort of feel one way. I warned
11 you about that, you know, one easier to deal with, six a
12 little harder, and yet that is why it is so important. So
13 how are we going to overcome this sort of hole that, you
14 know, I dug? I got you out of the hole and we all started
15 out nice and even, and then I read you the indictment, how
16 do we get out of that hole and get back to where we're
17 supposed to be, which is requiring the government to prove
18 its case beyond a reasonable doubt and giving the
19 defendant the presumption of innocence that the law
20 requires, how do we do that?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Listen to the evidence and
22 try to judge, you know, from the evidence.
23 THE COURT: I mean that's a great answer.
24 That's the answer. I mean you just say, hey, I heard
25 something, and it's not evidence. I heard something, and
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1 it's not evidence, and you get your antenna tuned up
2 because you know what you're going to have to listen for,
3 but you haven't heard any evidence yet. Exactly.
4 Exactly. Do you think people can really do that, Ms.
5 Saul?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think that they can. In
7 some cases, it might be a little difficult, but I think
8 that they could if they just let -- left their emotions
9 out and just weighed the evidence and the facts of the
10 case to seek the truth and come to a good conclusion.
11 THE COURT: I think you're right, I think it is
12 a little -- I think it's fairly difficult, but we got to
13 do it, we got to do it in this case.
14 Mr. Gupta, can you do that in this case, can
15 you start out on an even -- you know, this person is
16 presumed innocent, they're innocent, there's nothing on
17 that slate? I don't have any bad marks written on there,
18 can you do that in this case?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
20 THE COURT: Okay. How did you go through that
21 process of eliminating hearing that indictment, sort of
22 the effect of hearing charges, how do you deal with that?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, basically, I believe
24 that the defendant is going to try to present a case from
25 his opinion exactly all the details, whatever it is, and
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1 the facts and whatnot, and hopefully --
2 THE COURT: I'm sorry, go ahead.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And, hopefully -- we have
4 to hear all those facts and keep on hearing those and no
5 judgment until the case -- all the facts are heard.
6 THE COURT: Exactly. Now, you have raised a
7 really important point, and I'm glad you did, because the
8 interesting thing about our system, and it's different
9 from many systems, it is different from the Belgium system
10 and the French system and parts of the German system, it
11 depends on what system you're in, is that the defendant
12 actually never has to present anything at all. The
13 government always has the burden of proof, and while there
14 may be things that they present, there may not be things
15 that they present, the government always has the burden of
16 proving each count beyond a reasonable doubt. So we have
17 got to be a little careful there. I'm going to fine tune
18 your response just a little and say that every person is
19 entitled to be represented. The defendant is certainly
20 represented in the case, but she is not required to put
21 any proof on, is that -- is that going to make it
22 difficult for you, Ms. Vasser, in terms of how you listen
23 to the case? She is right in front of you. She is right
24 there in front of you. The fact that you know that she is
25 not obligated to present any proof. Now, they may -- they
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1 may tell you they will, but they are never obligated to,
2 is it still possible for you to keep that frame of mind,
3 innocent until proven guilty --
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
5 THE COURT: -- knowing that? Does it make
6 sense that we don't require defendants to -- we don't
7 require them to testify or give any evidence at all, does
8 that make sense?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, it does.
10 THE COURT: Because it would be a very coercive
11 system. The system would be very coercive if we could
12 make people get up there and testify, it would take the
13 burden partly away from the government, and that would be
14 wrong. I mean the government has the burden no matter how
15 we look at it, they have the burden of proof.
16 I have done a couple of things. We've gone
17 through what a juror needs to be. I'm going to run down
18 the rest of the list, and make sure everybody -- and then
19 I'm going to tell the schedule. I'm going to see if
20 anybody has got a problem with the schedule. This case is
21 going to take a few days to try. Whether it is three days
22 or four days or five days, it's going to be at least in
23 that range. Never can tell for sure. These are like
24 medical procedures, you know, if they start, they just go
25 until they're over, you can't do anything about shortening
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1 them up.
2 But let's go to Mr. White, Mr. White, having
3 heard everything that you have heard, now do you think you
4 can be a fair and impartial juror in this case and try
5 this case solely on the evidence, or is there something
6 you need to tell me about now either now or in person at
7 the side bar about why you might not be able to do that?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe I can be fair and
9 impartial in this case.
10 THE COURT: All right. And let's ask Mr.
11 Spurlin, can you be fair and impartial in this case, try
12 the case as we've talked about how to try it?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
14 THE COURT: And Mr. Salaam, can you do that?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I can.
16 THE COURT: Mr. Vedder, can do you that?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
18 THE COURT: Mr. Scott, can you do that? You
19 want to talk to me at side bar?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kind of.
21 THE COURT: I can tell that. We'll talk up
22 here in just a second.
23 Let me ask Ms. Starnes, Ms. Starnes, can do you
24 that in this case?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
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1 THE COURT: And, Mr. Smith, can you do that?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I could.
3 THE COURT: Ms. Vickers, can you do that?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
5 THE COURT: And, Mr. Smith, can you do that?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
7 THE COURT: And, Mr. Stovall, anything you need
8 to talk to me about or can you do that?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
10 THE COURT: Mr. Viverrette, can you do that?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
12 THE COURT: And I think we have asked Ms. Saul,
13 I will ask you again, can you do that?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
15 THE COURT: And I'm going to ask Mr. Gupta
16 again just to make sure we have got everybody.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I can do that.
18 THE COURT: All right. Let me tell you a
19 couple of things, and then I'm going to talk briefly with
20 Mr. Scott at the side bar. The case will be tried on a
21 schedule, we will usually start in here about 9:00
22 o'clock. It may be 9:30, it depends on the schedule for
23 each morning. We usually have some things earlier, but as
24 the case starts, we try to condense them. On Monday,
25 Wednesday, Friday, we take a longer lunch break, it is
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1 usually from 12:30 until 2:00. That won't seem -- once
2 you have taken that long lunch break, you will appreciate
3 that that is a good break for us, but then on Tuesday,
4 Thursday, we take a short lunch break, it is an hour lunch
5 break. It is actually a pretty good schedule, it's pretty
6 tight. We will stay in this case until a little after
7 5:00 each day. We won't stay real late. This is not --
8 just like, frankly, all your comments were really good,
9 and attentiveness and being able to focus on the case are
10 the type of things that require we not keep you just for
11 hours and hours. You have to be able to have a reasonable
12 day, and we recognize that, so that's what we'll do. I
13 expect the case to be a three to five-day case, I could be
14 wrong. It could be a two-day case, which isn't likely,
15 but it could also be a six-day case, which probably isn't
16 likely either, but I can't tell you in advance. So you
17 have to be available for that period of time. This is
18 Monday, we will go through Friday, and we can be back next
19 Monday, if we need to. That's not a problem. I expect
20 the proof will probably be over in four days, though, that
21 would be my absolute guess. I mean by Thursday. Mr.
22 Murphy, the government will probably end a little before
23 that?
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I anticipate that.
25 THE COURT: We never ask the defense how long
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1 the proof is going to be, you know, because they're not
2 required to put any proof on, because it's not fair to
3 them. If you want to tell us, it's okay, but we don't
4 really ask.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I am going to try to
6 finish, if Mr. Murphy finishes Tuesday afternoon or
7 Wednesday morning, I hope to have the case concluded, at
8 latest, by noon on Thursday, the proof.
9 THE COURT: So that's going to be our
10 objective. That's good. We all kind of know where we are
11 on the case. The reason I'm telling you those things is
12 that if you have got a nonrefundable trip and you're
13 supposed to be on vacation next Monday, it's not the case
14 for you. You need to be available that long, probably
15 won't be that long, but if you have got a commitment that
16 you have to meet, then this is not the case for you. I
17 think they have given you the best estimate. That's the
18 best they can do. Anybody who has a problem on the
19 schedule?
20 Okay. Well, I'm going to have -- I'm going
21 to -- Mr. Scott will be our illustration about coming to
22 the side bar. I'm going to have you come around to side
23 bar. If you can just walk in front, it's fine. And we
24 hit some white noise then, so that -- let you have a
25 private conversation at the side.
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1 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
2 bench.)
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: See, right now, I'm in
4 dispute with Internal Revenue, plus my wife is an
5 employee, and she used to work as Internal Revenue
6 employee.
7 THE COURT: You're in dispute with the IRS?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, kind of. I'm paying
9 them back. But, see, my wife, she works for IRS.
10 THE COURT: Do you think you should not a juror
11 in this case because of that?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, it would kind of --
13 you know.
14 THE COURT: Make you feel --
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Feel a little
16 uncomfortable.
17 THE COURT: Any objection to allowing Mr. Scott
18 to be excused?
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any.
20 MR. BECRAFT: No.
21 THE COURT: We're going to let you be excused.
22 Thanks for coming and telling me about it. Thank you.
23 (The following proceedings were had in open
24 court.)
25 THE COURT: We're going to let Mr. Scott be
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1 excused, and we will draw another name. Yes, sir.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Can I have -- because I
3 have a medical condition, can I have some question that we
4 ask?
5 THE COURT: Sure. Why don't you -- you want to
6 talk to me at side bar or you want to tell me -- you can
7 come around to side bar.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Can I come around to side
9 bar?
10 THE COURT: Yes. We're going to call that
11 other name right now so we can fill that seat so the
12 lawyers will know who will be seat six.
13 THE CLERK: Marlow Smith.
14 THE COURT: Yes, sir, if you will come around
15 over here.
16 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
17 bench.)
18 THE COURT: Mr. Gupta, yes, sir.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a diabetic patient,
20 insulin dependent. Sometimes things can happen without my
21 control. I am not sure when the things will be happening.
22 I take shots.
23 THE COURT: Let me ask this.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
25 THE COURT: How often do you take a shot?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In the a.m., in the
2 afternoon, and in the p.m., three times.
3 THE COURT: Okay. And did you bring insulin
4 with you today?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have not brought insulin
6 with me today, I did not think that I was going to need it
7 for the lunch time today because sometimes I can manage
8 without that.
9 THE COURT: Okay. Will you bring insulin just
10 in case you need it? We will always take a --
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
12 THE COURT: You administer your own shot?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I do.
14 THE COURT: Okay. How are you feeling today?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fine.
16 THE COURT: Okay. We have a general policy
17 that if somebody has a condition that can be managed, we
18 do not want to exclude them from the panel.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I see.
20 THE COURT: If you think it's -- that you
21 can't -- cannot serve, if you think it's going to be a
22 problem, then I would want you to tell me, but we are
23 going to try to help you out if there is any --
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I will prefer because it's
25 just developed that condition the last few months, six
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1 months, but I've been a diabetic for the last 25 years. I
2 can handle it, don't get me wrong, but I may not be sure,
3 and I would just feel much comfortable if I don't have to
4 do that.
5 THE COURT: If you don't have to serve on the
6 jury at this time?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm going to be honest with
8 you.
9 THE COURT: Okay. You do not use the insulin
10 pump, but you use the shots?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I use the shots.
12 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy, I'm inclined if
13 somebody thinks it's a problem --
14 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I have no objection.
15 MR. BECRAFT: None, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: We ought to let you be excused. I
17 understand it has gotten a little more difficult lately?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
19 THE COURT: Is that right?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
21 THE COURT: We're going to let you be excused.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you very much.
23 (The following proceedings were had in open
24 court.)
25 THE COURT: We're going to allow Mr. Gupta to
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1 be excused. We will seat somebody else in seat number
2 eight.
3 THE CLERK: Barbara Snodgrass.
4 THE COURT: Mr. Smith, how are you?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Doing fine.
6 THE COURT: Been in any big fights with the
7 IRS?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
9 THE COURT: All right.
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Don't make enough money.
11 THE COURT: Well, I think a lot of -- we all
12 feel that way sometimes. Let me ask this -- you raise a
13 great point, though, you really do. We talked about ways
14 people can discriminate against folks. We talked about
15 people of different gender, we talked about appearance
16 because that was really important and a really obvious
17 thing to talk about. We talked about -- let's see, Mr.
18 Stovall mentioned race and religion, Mr. Viverette
19 mentioned age, Ms. Saul, gender, Mr. Gupta had mentioned
20 national origin, different things. Do you think people
21 can treat people differently because of their economic
22 status?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sure it does happen.
24 THE COURT: Would that be right in a court of
25 law for somebody to be treated differently because of
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1 their economic status?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's not right anywhere.
3 THE COURT: It's not. And that can be both --
4 that can be -- you think it can apply to both people who
5 make more money and people who make less money?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sure it can.
7 THE COURT: It could be?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And I do in my life.
9 THE COURT: Maybe I didn't say that very well.
10 Would it be right to treat -- to hold the government to a
11 lower standard in this case for Ms. Kuglin because she has
12 got some fairly large -- pretty large numbers associated
13 with those income years, would that be wrong just to say,
14 well, she made a bunch of money, you know, she must have
15 done wrong, would that be fair?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, Huh-uh.
17 THE COURT: Okay. And that's the same kind of
18 preconceived notion, the idea that we're always concerned
19 about is -- if Bill Gates was here and his income, I don't
20 know what he makes, you know, Bill Gates was here and -- I
21 don't know what he makes, I have no idea, and he made a
22 billion dollars, he makes a lot of money, I don't know
23 what he makes, he makes enough money to last us for
24 awhile, would it be fair to convict him just because he
25 made a billion dollars?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it wouldn't.
2 THE COURT: Right. And that is an important
3 concept here, just -- it's the same kind of preconceived
4 notion or anything else. The government's burden doesn't
5 change because of your income level. In other words, if
6 you make $50,000, if you make -- you know, $24,000, you
7 have to pay income tax just like everybody else, you know.
8 In fact, I can't remember the scale, but it varies, it
9 varies a good bit. If you make $50,000, you have to pay
10 income tax, if you make a hundred thousand dollars, you
11 have to pay income tax. And the obligation to file that
12 tax return doesn't change because of your income. I'm
13 saying this in general, I know that there may be some
14 exceptions there, but as a general proposition, you got to
15 file. Anybody -- you know, I'm not going to ask everybody
16 now, I'm going to tell you, don't raise your hand, but in
17 the last five years, have each of you filed an income tax
18 return each year? I'm not going to ask too many questions
19 because somebody may not be old enough to have paid income
20 taxes in a couple of those years, and there's some income
21 limits on that too, but most everybody up there has filed
22 an income tax return, at least one in the last couple of
23 years. Now, everybody on the -- I can't remember if
24 you're a student if you have to file one or not. Do you
25 have to file one if you're a student, Mr. Murphy?
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1 MR. MURPHY: Judge, it would depend on your
2 income.
3 THE COURT: It would depend on your income.
4 But by and large, most everybody up there has probably
5 filed an income tax return. So anybody got to rule
6 against the defendant because she looks like she made over
7 a hundred thousand dollars each year?
8 Okay. What about that, Ms. Vasser, you going
9 to rule against her -- you say, well, she must be guilty,
10 they say she made over a hundred thousand dollars each
11 year. We will pass it down to Ms. Vasser.
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
13 THE COURT: Okay. And that's important. And,
14 Mr. White, are you going to rule against her just because
15 she seems to have a pretty good size number beside her
16 name?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir, it should not make
18 a difference.
19 THE COURT: It really shouldn't, that's not
20 what the government is trying to prove there. They're
21 going to have to prove some numbers here, but that's not
22 the key thing.
23 What about that, Mr. Spurlin, are you going to
24 say, well, you know, it would be one thing if she made --
25 I don't know, if she had -- if she was supposed to file an
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1 income tax return, but her income had been $18,000, but
2 I'm going to treat her differently because I believe her
3 income was in excess of a hundred thousand dollars, would
4 that be wrong?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: To treat her different,
6 yes, it would be wrong.
7 THE COURT: It would be wrong, because this
8 otherwise -- Mr. Murphy, this is basically a failure to
9 file case, I don't want to misstate it.
10 MR. MURPHY: Well, it is an evasion case, Your
11 Honor.
12 THE COURT: It's an evasion.
13 MR. MURPHY: And as part of that scheme, we're
14 alleging failure to file and false W-4.
15 THE COURT: They're saying she knew she was
16 supposed to file and she didn't file, and she did some
17 things on some occasions to not file, to avoid it. But we
18 can't just look at the number and reach a conclusion. Any
19 problem with that, Mr. Salaam?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. This is an evasion
21 case under 7201, so it doesn't have anything to do with
22 the amount, it's a legitimacy of an evasion.
23 THE COURT: Boy, you have got it down, thank
24 you. We just got to hear the proof on that.
25 Mr. Vedder, can you -- are you going to be
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1 influenced by that number?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Numbers don't make any
3 difference, sir.
4 THE COURT: Okay. We're going to look at the
5 actual proof on the issues that are going to be before the
6 court.
7 We have already asked Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith,
8 what do you do?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right now, I'm a golf pro?
10 THE COURT: You're a golf pro?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am -- yes, sir.
12 THE COURT: What happened to the golf course
13 you usually work with the storm?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, only one limb fell
15 off of one tree.
16 THE COURT: Where you are a golf pro?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Southaven Golf Center.
18 THE COURT: Okay. You were lucky, you were
19 lucky.
20 Ms. Starnes, is that number going to be
21 something that's going to overwhelm your ability to decide
22 the issues that are really going to be before us, the
23 evasion question?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
25 THE COURT: Mr. Smith, are you going to be able
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1 to treat -- you know, we take an oath, a lot of us do, to
2 treat the wealthy -- the rich and poor alike is what it
3 says on a lot of these things, and I don't know if the
4 plaintiff will be offended if we said rich, because it's a
5 very relative thing, but can we treat everybody the same
6 in this case and decide the issues in this case
7 irrespective of the numbers involved, pretty much?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I could, Your Honor.
9 It will be based on the evidence.
10 THE COURT: All right. Ms. Vickers, is that
11 okay with you?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's fine. It's not
13 about the money, but the evasion.
14 THE COURT: And, Mr. Smith, is that okay with
15 you?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
17 THE COURT: And Mr. Stovall?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
19 THE COURT: And Mr. Viverette?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I agree it's the evasion
21 for not filing taxes.
22 THE COURT: Exactly. And Ms. Saul?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
24 THE COURT: Okay. You final -- we have got
25 down to our new juror, now, it's Ms. Snodgrass, is that
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1 right?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
3 THE COURT: How are you today?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm fine, thank you.
5 THE COURT: What do you do?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Flight attendant, and I
7 also run an animal rescue organization.
8 THE COURT: What kind of animals?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Dogs and case.
10 THE COURT: Dogs and cats. There's one that
11 just does dogs. Is it Mews? What does Mews do?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: House of Mews does cats.
13 THE COURT: They do cats?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
15 THE COURT: But you do dogs and cats?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We do dogs and cats.
17 THE COURT: Which -- where?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Here in Memphis.
19 THE COURT: On Central?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, we do it out of our
21 homes. We have foster homes. People who will take them
22 into their homes and keep them.
23 THE COURT: Okay. All right. Well, you've
24 heard what everybody said about qualities of a good juror?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I have.
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1 THE COURT: Long list there. Did you agree
2 with those?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did.
4 THE COURT: Okay. And what about the prejudice
5 questions and prejudging questions, any problem with the
6 fact that we cannot prejudge the case, any problem with
7 those?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't have a problem with
9 that, no.
10 THE COURT: Can you give the defendant the
11 presumption of innocence that the law requires? And you
12 heard me read the charges, so that was one of the things
13 we went through this process about. Can you give the
14 defendant the presumption of innocence that the law
15 requires?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I feel the government is
17 going to have to show the reason, so, yes.
18 THE COURT: But it's a question of being able
19 to give somebody that blank slate.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
21 THE COURT: Can she really start out with a
22 blank slate with nothing written on it, even though we
23 have got those charges there, nothing written, no black
24 marks, anything like that?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Murphy -- and I do have
2 a bunch of other things, but I'm going to let you go
3 ahead.
4 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor.
5 How are you, ladies and gentlemen, doing today?
6 My name is Joe Murphy, and I'm a prosecutor in the
7 U. S. Attorney's office here in Memphis, and I have got
8 some questions that I would -- or some things that I would
9 like to talk with you about before we begin.
10 Now, this is an income tax evasion case, and if
11 I didn't stand up here and say a lot of people have strong
12 feelings about the IRS and the income tax laws, I would be
13 lying to you.
14 Now, has anybody on the panel had any problems
15 with the IRS? Have you had any audits or anything like
16 that?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was audited a number of
18 years ago.
19 MR. MURPHY: All right. As a result of that,
20 do you have any negative feelings about the IRS?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
22 MR. MURPHY: Okay. But you think you were
23 treated fairly throughout the audit process?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
25 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Anybody else? Yes, sir.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We were audited a few years
2 ago also.
3 MR. MURPHY: Okay. And how do you feel about
4 the audit? Do you think you were treated fairly or
5 unfairly?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, after they, you know,
7 checked it over and so forth, they proved that, you know,
8 we had to pay, in other words.
9 MR. MURPHY: So you had to pay some extra tax?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
11 MR. MURPHY: Do you think the IRS treated you
12 fairly?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I suppose so. You know,
14 the change each year, you know, there are certain changes,
15 so forth, but certain things, you know, were deductible,
16 you couldn't deduct it, so it's kind of hard to say, you
17 know, because of the changes, you know, they steady
18 changing what you could deduct.
19 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Can you -- if -- if you end
20 up on the jury in this case, can you put that as -- any
21 feelings you might have as a result of that audit to the
22 side and decide the case based on the facts and the law
23 that the judge gives you?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'll do my best.
25 MR. MURPHY: Okay. But do you think you could?
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1 Can you take an oath and swear that you can do it?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe so.
3 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Now, that brings us to an
4 important point. Judge McCalla in this case will instruct
5 you, ladies and gentlemen, if you end up on the jury what
6 the law is and what law you have to apply, and he'll
7 define what the crime of income tax evasion is, that sort
8 of thing. Now, does -- and he'll instruct you that you
9 have to apply his law whether you like it or not. Now,
10 does anybody have a problem with that? Do you think you
11 can apply the law whether you agree with it or not? Does
12 anybody have a problem with that? I know it is Monday
13 morning, nobody is talking. Not getting much of a
14 response, but I'm going to take it to mean that nobody has
15 a problem with that if you aren't raising your hands.
16 Okay. Let me say a word about what we're
17 doing. In voir dire, I only know this because the judge
18 told me this, it is old French for speak the truth, and
19 what we're trying to do here -- we're not trying to get a
20 government jury or a defense jury, we're trying to get a
21 fair jury. We're trying to get a jury that has no
22 preconceived notions that are going to affect the way they
23 control the case, and that's why we're asking the
24 questions we do. Do any of you ladies and gentlemen know
25 any of the parties that are seated here before you here
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1 today?
2 THE JURY: No.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She looks familiar. Are
4 you perhaps a real estate agent?
5 THE COURT: I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She looks familiar. I just
7 asked if she was a real estate agent.
8 THE COURT: Not a real estate agent.
9 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor, probably Mr.
10 Murphy is probably going to ask, but I think it is an
11 important question to ask, she does work. She is a FedEx
12 pilot, Your Honor.
13 THE COURT: Okay. I think that takes real
14 estate agent part out, doesn't it?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm the director of
16 operations at the airport, so perhaps --
17 THE COURT: Do you recognize --
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I may have recognized the
19 face, but I don't know the lady individually.
20 THE COURT: I will let Mr. Murphy ask a couple
21 of more questions about that.
22 MR. MURPHY: Now, the fact that you are
23 operations director at the airport, and the proof may
24 establish that the defendant, Ms. Kuglin, is a FedEx
25 employee, is that going to cause you any problems, are you
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1 going to be worried about FedEx being mad at you no matter
2 how you decide the case?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
4 MR. MURPHY: Now, Ms. Vasser, do you also work
5 for FedEx?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
7 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Is it going to cause you a
8 problem if there's another FedEx employee here?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
10 MR. MURPHY: It's not -- it's not going to
11 influence the way you decide the case?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
13 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Because you understand
14 you're going to have to decide the case on the facts --
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
16 MR. MURPHY: -- that you hear from the witness
17 stand and the law that the judge gives you?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
19 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you. Now, do any of
20 you ladies and gentlemen know anything about this case?
21 Has anybody talked the case over with you? Have you heard
22 anything about it from any friends at church, anything
23 like that?
24 Now, does everybody understand that the
25 indictment is just a way to bring this proceeding about,
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1 that it's not proof of guilt? Does everybody understand
2 that?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
4 MR. MURPHY: Does everybody understand that Ms.
5 Kuglin, as she sits before you today, is presumed to be
6 innocent, do you understand that?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
8 MR. MURPHY: Okay. And do you also understand
9 that the government has the obligation of coming forward
10 and proving Ms. Kuglin guilty as charged in the indictment
11 beyond a reasonable doubt, does everybody understand that?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
13 MR. MURPHY: Does anybody think that the
14 government should be held to a lesser standard of proof?
15 THE JURY: No.
16 MR. MURPHY: By the same token, does anybody
17 think that the government ought to be held to a higher
18 standard of proof? Do you think we ought to have to prove
19 it beyond any doubt? You think we should have to prove it
20 beyond any doubt?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
22 MR. MURPHY: Now, the judge is going to
23 instruct you that the burden of proof in the case is
24 beyond a reasonable doubt, which is not beyond a shadow of
25 a doubt; is that going to be a problem?
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1 THE COURT: One reason for that is there can
2 always be an unreasonable doubt. I mean is Elvis dead? I
3 mean who thinks Elvis is not dead? Elvis is alive. But
4 there are people who will believe that Elvis is -- and I
5 will tell you, my wife was a resident, Elvis is dead,
6 folks, I hate to tell you, you know, he's dead. There are
7 things that people have unreasonable doubts about. We
8 might wish that it wasn't the way it is in the case of
9 somebody like Mr. Presley, but it's not a reasonable
10 doubt. It's not based on reason and common sense. It's
11 really based upon emotion, usually. So beyond a shadow of
12 a doubt is not the standard. You know, that's -- you
13 know, can I prove to you -- I can probably prove to you
14 beyond a shadow of a doubt that Elvis is dead because
15 there's some physical evidence of his not being alive, but
16 for some things we can never prove it beyond all doubt,
17 it's just not possible.
18 I'm sorry, go ahead, Mr. Murphy.
19 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Judge.
20 But do you understand what the judge is
21 saying --
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
23 MR. MURPHY: -- beyond a reasonable doubt is
24 the standard that you're going to have to decide the case
25 on, okay?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
2 MR. MURPHY: Can everybody give a fair trial to
3 both sides? Can everybody be fair to the defendant? Can
4 everybody be fair to the government?
5 THE JURY: Yes.
6 MR. MURPHY: As usual, ladies and gentlemen,
7 I'm having trouble reading my own writing.
8 Do any of you, ladies and gentlemen, have any
9 family or friends that are involved in law enforcement,
10 work for the Sheriff's Department or federal agents, work
11 for the police department? Yes, sir.
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: As part of my job, I'm a
13 police officer.
14 MR. MURPHY: You're a police officer at the
15 airport?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
17 MR. MURPHY: Are you a member of the Airport
18 Authority?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
20 MR. MURPHY: Police department?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I'm the director of
22 operations in public safety, which I have responsibility
23 for the police department.
24 MR. MURPHY: So you operate like the police
25 chief out there?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The police chief reports to
2 me, yes.
3 MR. MURPHY: Anybody else? Any family members,
4 friends? Does anybody have any family members or friends
5 that work for the IRS?
6 Okay. Nobody will fess up to it, okay.
7 Yes, sir.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a son that works for
9 the IRS.
10 MR. MURPHY: You have a son that works --
11 THE COURT: We're going to pass the mic back.
12 One reason we pass the mic is that it goes through our
13 system here, and actually you folks back there can hear it
14 when we're speaking in the mic, can't you? And when we
15 don't speak into the mic, you can't hear. And they need
16 to be able to hear our answers, so just be sure that you
17 speak into that mic.
18 Have you got --
19 MR. MURPHY: Well, it wasn't working.
20 THE COURT: Well, you just keep your voice up,
21 and you usually can be heard. If you can't hear Mr.
22 Murphy, let me know too.
23 MR. MURPHY: That's what my kids say anyway.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I have a son that
25 works for the IRS.
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1 MR. MURPHY: And what does he do at the IRS?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He work, you know, with
3 tax -- with the tax, you know, examiner, I believe that's
4 the title.
5 MR. MURPHY: So he examines people's income
6 taxes?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: If I'm not mistaken, yes.
8 MR. MURPHY: Now, the fact that your son works
9 for the IRS, is that going to cause you any problems? Is
10 it going to make it harder for you to be fair to the
11 defendant?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
13 MR. MURPHY: Is it going to make it harder for
14 you to be fair to the government?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Loaded question.
16 MR. MURPHY: I believe this gentleman down
17 here, yes, sir.
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had friends some years
19 ago that were criminal investigators with the IRS.
20 MR. MURPHY: Is that going to cause you a
21 problem?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it's not.
23 MR. MURPHY: If you were to vote not guilty in
24 this case, would that embarrass you with those friends?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I haven't even seen them in
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1 the last 15 years, they have moved away.
2 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you.
3 Is any -- are any of you, ladies and gentlemen,
4 employed by the federal government?
5 Yes, ma'am.
6 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: Pass the mic down.
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work for USDA, the U. S.
8 Department of Agriculture.
9 MR. MURPHY: How long?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: For 26 years.
11 MR. MURPHY: What part of USDA?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Cotton, cotton program.
13 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Do you work at the classing
14 office?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, uh-huh.
16 MR. MURPHY: The fact that the federal
17 government is bringing this case, is that going to cause
18 you any problems?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
20 MR. MURPHY: Are you going to feel like you
21 have to vote guilty?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
23 MR. MURPHY: And you can be fair to the
24 defendant?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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1 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
2 Have any of you, ladies and gentlemen, ever
3 served on a jury in a civil case? If you have, raise your
4 hands.
5 Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, do you understand
6 that there's six separate counts in this indictment? This
7 indictment charges six distinct crimes and that you're
8 going to be required to render a verdict as to each count
9 of the indictment. Does anybody have a problem with that?
10 Okay. And as the judge said, the number of charges
11 doesn't make a person guilty, everybody understands that?
12 Okay. Does anybody on the jury -- on the jury
13 panel, do you have a belief that you shouldn't be required
14 to pay taxes? That's different than you don't like paying
15 them, don't enjoy it. Do you think that tax laws are
16 unconstitutional or improper, or does anybody have
17 feelings like that? Okay. Does anybody have a problem
18 with the fact that some violations of the tax laws may be
19 criminal violations? You know, it's kind of like in drug
20 cases, you have some jurors sometimes that think marijuana
21 ought to be legalized and don't approve of prosecutions of
22 marijuana distributors, anybody feel like that, that the
23 tax laws -- that criminal charges shouldn't be brought for
24 tax violations? Nobody is saying anything.
25 Yes, sir.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a feeling that our
2 tax laws are set up more for the rich folks instead of the
3 poor folks, being one of the poorer ones.
4 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Now, you understand that
5 the judge is going to instruct you what the law is in the
6 case, and you will have to follow that law without
7 consideration of that feeling; do you understand that?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
9 THE COURT: Okay. Now, does that cause you a
10 problem?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Because that has nothing to
12 do with a defendant, because that is our law per se.
13 MR. MURPHY: There you go. Would you speak
14 into the microphone, sir?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I said that has nothing to
16 do with a defendant, that's just the way our system works.
17 MR. MURPHY: Okay.
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We don't have a perfect
19 system, I think anybody would agree with that.
20 MR. MURPHY: Okay. But you're not going to
21 have any problem applying the law that the judge gives
22 you?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
24 THE COURT: If there's proof in the case that
25 this defendant made a high salary, you're not going to
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1 hold that against her?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
3 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you, sir.
4 Have any of you, ladies and gentlemen, ever
5 worked as income tax preparers or have accounting degrees,
6 anything like that? I know, ma'am, you said you worked at
7 a CPA office?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My ex-husband was a CPA and
9 I worked for 18 years of just preparing tax returns. I
10 didn't do the actual -- the CPAs in the firm did the
11 interaction with the IRS, but I did prepare tax returns.
12 I don't do that now, but I did.
13 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Do you have any bad
14 feelings about the IRS based on your experience working
15 with the CPA firm?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, if anything, it helped
17 me feel better. I learned that you didn't have to fear
18 it, the people -- that the IRS does their information on
19 the information that they have, and the tax accountants'
20 role is to help them, if they have information the IRS
21 does not have, and so it didn't leave negative feelings
22 about the IRS.
23 MR. MURPHY: You understand that if you're
24 selected on the jury, you're going to have to decide the
25 case based on the facts that are admitted into evidence
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1 and the law as the judge gives it to you?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
3 MR. MURPHY: Do you understand that?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
5 THE COURT: And do you understand you can't go
6 back, and if you're selected as a juror, you say, well,
7 now, wait a second, when I was with the CPA firm, they did
8 it this way?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, yes, sir, I
10 understand that. And this is so much back in the past --
11 in fact, I had just about even forgot this, that I should
12 bring this up. I am a pastor of a church now, so my world
13 doesn't evolve around the -- this world now.
14 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Mr. Salaam, have you ever
15 done any taxes or anything like that? They're going to
16 pass you the mic.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I haven't.
18 MR. MURPHY: Because you talked about it being
19 a 7201 charge.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I've studied prelaw at St.
21 Louis University some, and I've attended a lot of trials,
22 but never did anything with taxes but pay them.
23 MR. MURPHY: What kind of trials did you
24 attend?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All type. I participated
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1 in the King trial, all 30 days with Dr. William Peppers.
2 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Were you helping Dr.
3 Peppers in the presentation of that case or were you just
4 there?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I served as security
6 for the King family.
7 MR. MURPHY: Okay. I believe on the jury sheet
8 it says you work for one of the local funeral homes?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
10 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Are you a security officer?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I'm a family counselor,
12 family service counselor, and sometimes a funeral
13 director.
14 MR. MURPHY: Okay. How long have you worked at
15 Memphis Funeral Home?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Forest Hill.
17 MR. MURPHY: Forest Hill, I'm sorry.
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's the other guy.
19 MR. MURPHY: That's the competition. Forest
20 Hill.
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About a year and a half.
22 MR. MURPHY: Okay.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a family business
24 too.
25 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Now, what you learned in
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1 school and the prelaw courses and what you learned by
2 sitting in this these trials, you understand that's not
3 something that you can use in this case because the judge
4 will instruct you on the law, and the facts may be
5 different, all that sort of thing?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I understand it. I'm
7 glad you understand it too.
8 MR. MURPHY: Okay. I don't know. Sometimes I
9 don't understand it. It's just engrained in us, in
10 lawyers, things have got to be just so-so.
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All right.
12 MR. MURPHY: Okay. I'm down to my last
13 question, ladies and gentlemen. And lawyers are kind of
14 like Baptist ministers, finally does not necessarily mean
15 immediately. Is there anything about this case or
16 anything that y'all think the lawyers and the judge ought
17 to know that hasn't come up? Anything we haven't asked
18 that you think that we should have?
19 Okay. Well, with that, I will sit down, ladies
20 and gentlemen. Thank you.
21 THE COURT: We're going to go until -- no,
22 we're ready, we're fine, we will go until about 25, 27
23 after, and then we will take our lunch break, and I will
24 have to give you -- I will have to have a couple of
25 minutes to tell them the rules about those sorts of
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1 things, so you have got about 10 minutes.
2 MR. BECRAFT: I will just tell you that you can
3 wave your hand and cut me off any place.
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I will just speak up.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Ladies and gentlemen, my name is
6 Larry Becraft, and I'm here to represent Vernie Kuglin,
7 who is the defendant in this case. And, of course, the
8 other fellow over here is Bob Bernhoft, and my question to
9 you is, first and foremost, has anybody ever met Vernie
10 Kuglin, heard about her or heard about her lawyers? How
11 about -- you know, some people -- the U. S. Attorney's
12 office is one floor below, a lot of people work down
13 there, do any of you know or are you socially acquainted
14 with anybody that works in the U. S. Attorney's office?
15 Whether it is an attorney -- yes, Mr. White.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
17 MR. BECRAFT: You know someone? And who would
18 that be?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Terry Harris.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. The U. S. Attorney?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
22 MR. BECRAFT: Are you socially acquainted with
23 him?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not socially,
25 professionally.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: So out at the airport, the
2 U. S. Attorney's office has some dealings with the
3 security out there, and that's the way you've met him and
4 worked with him, correct?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Is there anything about
7 that relationship that would maybe cause you to be
8 favorable to the government and simply because you know
9 the man that runs the office?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
11 MR. BECRAFT: So you can cast that aside if
12 you're picked as a juror?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Is there anyone else that knows,
15 you know, either the lawyers or the investigators or
16 anybody else that might work in that office?
17 Now, we're going to have in this case -- you
18 know, we're going to bring in some people from the IRS,
19 some people from the Service Center, it is going to be IRS
20 people that are going to take the witness stand, and my
21 question to you at this time is this: You know, are you
22 going to be giving to anybody that is a government
23 employee greater credence to their testimony just because
24 they work for the government? Anybody that is going to be
25 leaning in the direction of giving greater credence to
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1 somebody that works for the government rather than giving
2 the same type of credence you would for any other witness?
3 I take it most of you are -- or, in fact, all
4 of you, is there anybody here who does not live in Shelby
5 County? And you, Mr. White?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Vedder.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Vedder, I'm sorry. How far away
8 do you live from the courthouse?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Tipton County.
10 MR. BECRAFT: And you live where?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Lauderdale County.
12 MR. BECRAFT: And how long does it take y'all
13 to get to court?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It takes me an hour and a
15 half.
16 MR. BECRAFT: An hour and a half?
17 THE COURT: Where do you live in Lauderdale
18 County?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Halls, Tennessee.
20 THE COURT: Halls, okay. And I'm sorry, where
21 do you live in Tipton County?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It took me about 45
23 minutes.
24 THE COURT: And you live in which part of
25 Tipton County?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Drummonds.
2 THE COURT: I live in Rosemark, which is one
3 mile south of the line --
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
5 THE COURT: I used to work in Covington.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Drummonds.
7 THE COURT: Drummonds, okay, yeah, yeah. Just
8 to get an idea. It may not be quite as familiar. I think
9 those are distances -- I know anybody from Tipton County,
10 we always end up asking them to drive back and forth.
11 People from further away, if it takes a long time, we'll
12 actually enter an order and let you stay in a hotel, if we
13 can get a hotel room in the downtown area if it becomes a
14 problem. A lot of people prefer to commute. Anybody from
15 as far north as Dyersburg, I usually suggest that they
16 stay overnight, just so far -- that's just such a long
17 drive. I need to let you know that, and you wouldn't
18 necessarily know that was the policy on trips. Go right
19 ahead.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor. Anybody
21 else? If you're picked as a juror, are you going to have
22 a problem getting here to court? Somebody might park over
23 there at Mud Island or some other place. Does anybody
24 think if you're picked as a juror you're going to have a
25 difficult time at least getting to court here whether we
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1 start at 9:00 or 9:30 in the morning?
2 Mr. Murphy asked some questions along these
3 lines, but I want to kind of repeat it because I may not
4 have been hearing what his question was closely. My
5 question relates to either you, yourself, or members of
6 your immediate family or some of your close friends that
7 you meet on a regular basis, you know, you hold -- they're
8 part of your family almost. Out of that group, are there
9 any of you or members of your families or those close
10 friends that have ever at any time worked for either state
11 or federal law enforcement? All right. How about anybody
12 that has either themselves or members of their family or
13 close friends that have ever worked for either state or
14 federal government, and I'm including everything, you
15 know, like if it was any agency of the federal government,
16 any agency of the state government, does anybody
17 themselves or members of their family or close friends
18 work for government in any way, shape, manner or form
19 other than the ones that -- yes, ma'am.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My brother is a lieutenant.
21 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: Pass the mic.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He works for the Sheriff's
23 Department.
24 MR. BECRAFT: Sheriff's Department?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Your brother?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Shelby County?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
5 MR. BECRAFT: All right. And how long has he
6 been employed?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About 13 years.
8 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Do you see him on a
9 regular basis?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
11 MR. BECRAFT: All right. So chances are if you
12 were picked as a juror in this case there might be a
13 possibility that you would see him sometime during the
14 course of the trial?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Possible.
16 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Well, you wouldn't let
17 your -- if you were picked as a juror, would you let your
18 brother, this Shelby County deputy influence you or your
19 decision in this case in any way, shape, manner or form?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, because he wouldn't
21 know about the case I was on.
22 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Thank you. Mr. White?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sir?
24 MR. BECRAFT: What? Did you raise your hand?
25 I thought you did.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I didn't. Although --
2 MR. BECRAFT: We know you work for the Airport
3 Authority.
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right. I actually have
5 several close friends that are FBI agents.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Thank you.
7 Mr. Spurlin?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Used to work for the FAA.
9 MR. BECRAFT: And how long ago was that?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: '81.
11 MR. BECRAFT: And how long did you work for the
12 FAA?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Eleven years.
14 MR. BECRAFT: And you're working now, you left
15 probably about '92 '93, the FAA?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I left in '81.
17 MR. BECRAFT: And for the last 20 years, you
18 have been working -- we had a little note that you work in
19 auto sales, is that correct?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right, auto parts.
21 MR. BECRAFT: And have you been doing that
22 since you left the FAA?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Basically, except for one
24 year.
25 MR. BECRAFT: Do you have any friends or
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1 relatives that still work for the FAA that you still talk
2 to?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
4 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. All right. Thank you.
5 Anybody else that raised their hand to that question about
6 either being employed by or having friends that are
7 employed by some government agency? Have any of you
8 ever -- Mr. Murphy asked the question about whether or not
9 you had served in a civil jury. I don't know -- if y'all
10 came in maybe last week for jury service, but let me ask
11 this specific question: Have any of you ever sat on a
12 grand jury, either state or federal? You know, a grand
13 jury is a group of people that assembles in a building
14 much like this, either in the -- some courthouse, state or
15 federal, and they have government agencies and other
16 witnesses come before them to tell them about the
17 commission of crimes, and a grand jury returns an
18 indictment. Now, has anybody ever sat on a grand jury
19 before, state or federal? Okay. How about -- I think
20 your answers to Mr. Murphy's questions about civil juries,
21 I don't think there was anybody here who sat on a civil
22 jury. How about a criminal jury? Okay.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Shelby County.
24 MR. BECRAFT: Shelby County. How long ago was
25 that?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would say roughly 10, 11
2 years ago, 12 years ago maybe.
3 MR. BECRAFT: And that was a criminal case?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, it involved DUI.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. And would there be
6 anything about your service in that prior criminal case
7 that would have any effect upon what you do or think or
8 decide if you're picked as a juror in this case?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. All right. And, Mr.
11 Smith, did you raise your hand?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
13 MR. BECRAFT: And you have been a juror in a
14 criminal case before?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir, that's correct.
16 MR. BECRAFT: And how long would that be?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would say roughly about
18 five years ago.
19 MR. BECRAFT: And was that state or federal?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think it was state.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Here in Shelby County?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
23 MR. BECRAFT: Would there be anything about
24 your service as a juror in a criminal case that -- you
25 know, you sat through one criminal trial in the past and
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1 you may be picked to sit in another criminal jury this
2 time here, is there anything about your prior experience
3 that might have some influence or effect upon how you
4 listen to the evidence or react in this case if you're
5 picked as a juror?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
7 MR. BECRAFT: All right. So you can leave that
8 totally behind you, whatever you did then, and consider
9 this case based solely on the facts and the testimony and
10 the documents that are offered in evidence?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Absolutely.
12 MR. BECRAFT: Was there anybody else who raised
13 their hand to the question about criminal jury service?
14 How about -- we're going to be bringing in some
15 people to testify in this case. Is there anybody who has
16 ever been a witness either in a civil or a criminal case
17 meaning, you know, you had to come up here and sit down in
18 a chair? Ms. Vickers.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In a custody case, child
20 custody case for my daughter.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. All right. So you had to
22 go to -- was that here in Shelby County?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it was in north
24 Alabama.
25 MR. BECRAFT: How long ago was that?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It will be a year in
2 September.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Was there anything about
4 that experience that might have an effect upon -- now,
5 you're not sitting up there in what we call the hot seat,
6 you will be sitting as a juror in this case, is there
7 anything that would maybe affect what you do in this case
8 having been a prior witness?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Maybe be able to hear that
10 person a little better after having sat there.
11 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Anybody else that
12 responded to being a witness? Let me take Mr. Spurlin.
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's probably been 30
14 years.
15 MR. BECRAFT: As a witness in a case?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Well, there's no -- that's not
18 going to affect what you do here, right?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Mr. Salaam, I think you raised
21 your hand?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, in 1979, I was a
23 character witness for one of my co-workers.
24 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Was that in a civil
25 case, criminal case?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Civil case.
2 THE COURT: And sometime ago, what you did then
3 wouldn't have any effect upon your role as a juror in this
4 case if you're picked, right?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Was there anybody else? And you
7 are Mr. Stovall?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Probably about 20
9 years ago, I was a witness for an employee of mine, he was
10 up on drug charges.
11 MR. BECRAFT: All right.
12 THE COURT: We're going to need to take our
13 lunch break.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Sure, Your Honor.
15 THE COURT: I need to tell everybody seven
16 things before we take that break. We will get the jury
17 today, I'm sure. In fact, it may not be that far into the
18 afternoon. But any time we take a break, there's seven
19 things to keep in mind. The first thing is you cannot
20 discuss the case among yourselves. It's very tempting,
21 because that's the one thing you all have in common is
22 that you're juror on a -- or potentially a juror on a
23 case. You cannot discuss the case. Don't talk about the
24 lawyers, the parties, anything about the proceedings at
25 all. When you start talking about any aspect of the case,
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1 you start the mental process of making up your mind, and
2 we cannot do it once you start it. So I'm going to ask
3 you not to verbalize anything about the case. The second
4 thing is not only are you not to talk among yourselves
5 about the case, but obviously you're not to talk with
6 anybody else. If you need to call an employer or family
7 member or somebody and tell them what you're doing, you
8 can call and tell them that you're a prospective juror in
9 a criminal case in federal court and you cannot tell them
10 anything, because naturally people ask. So tell them that
11 you're -- that's all you can tell them is that you're a
12 potential juror in a criminal case in federal court. You
13 can tell them more about it when the case is over or when
14 you're released. The third thing is that if anybody
15 should try to talk you about the case, it's improper, and
16 so do not -- if they do, tell them they shouldn't, but,
17 secondly, report that to one of our court security
18 officers. They're the ladies and gentlemen who have on
19 the blue jackets and the badges, and they will let me
20 know, or a member of my staff or me. The fourth thing is
21 don't speak to the lawyers or the parties, you can't --
22 you should give them space. If you see them get on an
23 elevator, let them take an elevator, you take the next
24 one, because if they were seen speaking to you or
25 appearing to be close to you engaged in conversation, it
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1 might appear that they were attempting to influence you.
2 They will avoid that, but they need your help in that
3 regard. So don't speak to them at all. The fifth thing
4 is do not do any research or make any investigation. I
5 know that some people may know something about the law in
6 the area. Don't go to the library and look anything up or
7 make any type of inquiry. It's our job to -- the lawyers'
8 job to present the evidence through the witnesses and the
9 facts, and then it's my job to give you the law. So don't
10 try to make any investigation in that regard. The sixth
11 thing is, of course, avoid anything in the newspaper or on
12 television or radio that might be about this case or cases
13 like this. You simply -- that would be outside the --
14 that would be material presented outside the presence of
15 the court and the parties, so you cannot consider that.
16 If inadvertently you see something in the newspaper or
17 hear something, then tell me about it, and it probably
18 won't be a problem, but you need to tell me so we can
19 check and see if it is. And the seventh thing is keep an
20 open mind. Obviously, one of the first things that you
21 told me about until you have heard all the evidence in the
22 case, the final arguments of counsel and the final
23 instructions on the law and have gone to the jury room and
24 then discussed the evidence among yourselves, which will
25 be probably four days from now, and then after you have
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1 discussed the evidence with each other, four days from now
2 after you have heard all the proof and the final arguments
3 and final instructions, then make up your mind. So wait,
4 continue to be patient and wait.
5 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to ask you to
6 come back at 2:00 o'clock, and we'll see you at 2:00
7 o'clock, we'll resume jury selection at that time. All of
8 you, we will ask you to be back at that time. Thank you.
9 (Recess taken at 12:30 until 2:00 p.m.)
10 (Jury in.)
11 THE COURT: All right. I think we have got
12 everybody. Yes, sir. You may proceed.
13 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court, ladies
14 and gentlemen, right before our lunch break, I wrote the
15 last question that I had asked of y'all about being a
16 witness, and I think my recollection is that everybody
17 that had replied to the question had given me some
18 information about that. Did I miss anybody?
19 As you know by now, this is a tax case. Ms.
20 Kuglin is charged with six counts of tax evasion, bad
21 word, but I expect that what she is going to do in this
22 case is she is going to take the stand, tell you the
23 reasons why, and her testimony will involve something
24 about tax law. And Judge McCalla was asking some
25 questions earlier today about how many people have some
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1 information or knowledge or have ever studied the tax laws
2 in any way, shape, manner or form. For example, have you
3 taken a course involving tax or have you ever picked up a
4 tax code or other information and actually studied that?
5 What I would like to know from any of you right now is if
6 you have ever engaged in any type of the study of the tax
7 laws like I have just described? Yes, ma'am. And that
8 would arise because you worked in the past for the CPAs.
9 And did that involve getting down to the details of the
10 Internal Revenue Code?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It involved sometimes
12 looking up what the code was in preparing a tax return.
13 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Now, with that in mind, I
14 want to tell you something that's going to happen during
15 this case. Ms. Kuglin is going to give her beliefs about
16 the law, but all the law that is applicable in this case
17 will come from the court, you understand that, right?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
19 MR. BECRAFT: And so if you have some
20 preconception or some view of tax or some recollection,
21 can you lay all of that aside if you're picked as a juror
22 and just listen to what Judge McCalla tells you is the law
23 that will be applicable in the case, can you do that?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It has been done many years
25 ago, so it has been done.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Anybody else fall in that
2 category that has done some type of personal study of the
3 tax law?
4 This is a criminal case and, you know, a lot of
5 people have seen on TV -- you know, we have Perry Mason,
6 and we have all of these other shows about civil and
7 criminal cases, and I think probably all of you're aware
8 of the burden of proof that's involved in a criminal case.
9 In a civil case, all you have to do is kind of tip the
10 scales of justice over to one side. The party that proves
11 by a preponderance of the evidence their case is entitled
12 to win. However, in a criminal case, the burden of proof
13 is, you know, what we do here in America is we have a
14 burden that is imposed upon the government, here it's
15 represented by Mr. Murphy. They have got to submit proof
16 in this case to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Ms.
17 Kuglin committed the crimes. Is there anybody here that
18 kind of disputes or has some difference of opinion about
19 the burden of proof that the government might have to
20 carry in this case? Now, in this case, you know, I'm not
21 going to tell you what the whole facts are, but, you know,
22 I can assure you that after the government ends their
23 proof, one of the first witnesses, we may have two, maybe
24 one, maybe three defense witnesses, but one of the defense
25 witnesses is going to be Vernie Kuglin. She is going to
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1 get up and explain to you why she did what she did. Is
2 there anybody here that at this stage, without knowing the
3 substance of what she is going to testify about, is there
4 anybody right here that says, well, gee, you know, I have
5 heard enough about this case that, you know, there is
6 nothing that she can say that would persuade me that she
7 is anything other than guilty? Is there anybody here that
8 is in that posture right now? Is everybody that on this
9 panel, in this jury box right here, are you going to tell
10 me that you will fairly listen to the testimony of Vernie
11 Kuglin, fairly weigh it and make a determination as to
12 whether she is not guilty or guilty, will each of you do
13 that?
14 You know, you have already heard a little bit
15 about the facts of this case. She is an airline pilot.
16 She flies for FedEx, has been doing so for a number of
17 years. She lives down at the end of the street. She
18 lives in downtown Memphis. She has a condo down there.
19 The proof is also going to show that their son, go down
20 far enough south on Main Street during lunch you will pass
21 by where her son lives, 1 Main Street. You know, just
22 knowing the fact that she is a FedEx pilot, just knowing
23 the facts that she makes -- you know, you heard Judge
24 McCalla read out those large figures that were in that
25 indictment, 140, 150, $160,000 is what FedEx was paying
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1 her each year, she lives in a condo at Waterford Place.
2 They're in the process of building or buying an office or
3 a building down at 1 Main Street South. So it's quite
4 obvious that what is going to come out in this case, what
5 you're going to be able to see about Vernie Kuglin is
6 someone that is, you know, makes good money and lives
7 nice, and there's going to be testimony in this case
8 regarding her, you know, disputes with the IRS. Now, is
9 there anyone that knowing that much about the facts of
10 this case that you're thinking in your mind, well, I've
11 got some type of preconceived notion or I'm -- you know,
12 I'm somewhat uncertain about this blonde headed lady over
13 here that is a FedEx pilot making a lot of money and
14 living in a nice place in downtown Memphis, is there
15 anyone that right now has something inside of them that
16 says, you know, there's something I don't like about
17 Vernie Kuglin, is there any such feeling inside any of
18 you?
19 Okay. Now, can each of you, with those facts
20 in mind, treat her just like any other defendant? Could
21 you treat her just like -- what if the facts in this case
22 were some 20 or 25 years ago when she was working for the
23 welfare department, if she were a defendant and her job
24 was what she had 25 years ago working for the welfare
25 department, will you judge her equally under both sets of
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1 facts? You won't have any problems or take into
2 consideration her station in life and hold that against
3 her when you decide this case? Will each of you -- you
4 know, this case is going to last, as you've heard, we're
5 probably going to try to wrap up, hopefully, Thursday
6 morning. After that's over with, what we're going to do
7 is the lawyers will get up and give closing arguments
8 after you have listened to all of these witnesses that
9 will testify. The lawyers are going to kind of summarize
10 the case, but at the end of that, Judge McCalla is going
11 to read to you a set of jury instructions. He's going to
12 tell you about what's important in this case, and what's
13 important in this case will be what I call this criminal
14 state of mind that you must find in order to find her
15 guilty. If she doesn't have a criminal state of mind,
16 she's not guilty. Now, will each of you follow, listen
17 tentatively to what Judge McCalla has to say about what
18 the government must prove, listen to the law that she
19 gives to you and will each of you follow it? Any
20 reservations?
21 Has anybody had problems hearing me? Anybody
22 have anything against me? Anybody have anything against
23 Vernie Kuglin? Anything against Bob Bernhoft, the way he
24 looks? Is there anybody here that for whatever reason,
25 maybe Judge McCalla might not like this, but I want to
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1 know, have you got any reason, just show me your hand, I
2 don't want to sit in this case? So each of you are
3 willing --
4 THE COURT: I just raised my hand, I got plenty
5 to do.
6 MR. BECRAFT: So nobody -- everybody is willing
7 right now to sit maybe through Friday afternoon and
8 discharge your American civic duty?
9 THE COURT: I'm going to let my technical guy
10 come up and just talk to me a second. Go right ahead.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Can I go ahead, sir?
12 THE COURT: Absolutely. We have to fix a
13 couple of pieces.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Does anybody here have any
15 problem with the way that we settle criminal cases,
16 criminal disputes here in America? We bring in twelve
17 tried and true members of our community and submit to them
18 for ultimate resolution the ultimate question of whether
19 or not someone is guilty or innocent of a crime?
20 Nothing further, Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: We were just checking, we need to
22 fix that lapel mic, it wasn't working, and Ike is going
23 to -- Mr. Mussleman is going to get that taken care of,
24 and that was it.
25 Well, anything else from anybody else for the
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1 panel at this time?
2 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have anything else,
3 but --
4 THE COURT: Let's talk about it at side bar,
5 because I wanted to ask a couple of questions. There are
6 a couple of things that sometimes are covered and haven't
7 been covered yet, so I want to check.
8 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
9 bench.)
10 THE COURT: Usually y'all or I ask a few
11 questions, do you want to ask those?
12 MR. MURPHY: If you want me to do personal
13 stuff, that's fine.
14 THE COURT: I can run through them real
15 quickly, I'm going to go through them real fast, just
16 their employer, I'm going to get whether they're married
17 or not, what does their spouse do. I'm going to ask them
18 what part of the district they live in.
19 (The following proceedings were had in open
20 court.)
21 THE COURT: I raised my hand because I used to
22 tell people that anybody who really wanted to serve on a
23 jury probably shouldn't. That's sort -- that's an
24 important frame of mind to probably approach it. It is
25 real serious business. Usually we ask a couple of
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1 questions, sometimes I ask them, sometimes the lawyers ask
2 them. Really in this case, really nobody asked them. We
3 do have a small information sheet on each of you, but very
4 small, so what we're going to do, just to make sure that
5 we know a little bit about each of you, is I'm going to
6 start with Ms. Vasser, I'm going to ask each of you set a
7 questions. I'm going to ask what you part of the district
8 or city do you live in. As you can see, some people live
9 outside Shelby County, and also it is helpful for people
10 to know, for example, if you live downtown, if you live on
11 Harbor Town, if you live in Waterford Plaza, but just
12 generally what part of the district or city you live in.
13 Then I'll ask you what's your occupation, who's your
14 employer, are you married, and if you're married, I'm
15 going to ask who your spouse is, so they will know and
16 so -- they will hear the name, and what does your spouse
17 do, just to make sure we have covered that with each
18 person, and then I'm going to ask you that final question,
19 is there any reason that you cannot serve on this jury and
20 be fair and impartial. Somebody usually asks those, and
21 since they haven't been asked, I'm going to make sure we
22 have covered them. We also have you stand up when you do
23 that just so everybody can hear you okay. So if you will
24 stand please, what part of the city or district are you
25 from?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm Wolfchase area.
2 THE COURT: Okay. I left out one thing, I'm
3 going to add one thing in there. And what is your -- I'm
4 going to ask your educational background. And I don't
5 want to know very much, just how far you went in school.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: College.
7 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
8 your employer? For some people, we know some of this, but
9 tell us that.
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a carrier for FedEx.
11 THE COURT: I think it's probably been obvious,
12 but everybody wants to be sure, a person who works at the
13 airport or works at FedEx, do you know Ms. Kuglin?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
15 THE COURT: Okay. Are you married?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
17 THE COURT: Your husband's name and his
18 occupation?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: William Vasser.
20 THE COURT: And what does he do?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's a team leader for
22 FedEx.
23 THE COURT: Okay. Any children?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
25 THE COURT: How many children?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One.
2 THE COURT: How old?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Twelve.
4 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
5 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
7 THE COURT: Thanks very much.
8 And Mr. White?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
10 THE COURT: What is your title out there?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Director of operations and
12 public safety.
13 THE COURT: So people call you Director White
14 sometimes?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
16 THE COURT: Director White, what part of the
17 district or city are you from?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Collierville.
19 THE COURT: And what is your educational
20 background?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Master's degree.
22 THE COURT: Go ahead and tell us your
23 occupation and who you work for.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The director of operations,
25 public safety. I work for the Memphis-Shelby County
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1 Airport Authority.
2 THE COURT: And are you married?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
4 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
5 occupation?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Deborah White. Not that
7 one, and she is an accountant.
8 THE COURT: And she is an accountant. Okay.
9 It would be bad to miss that one.
10 Do you know of any reason that you could not
11 serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I do not.
13 THE COURT: Thanks very much.
14 Mr. Spurlin?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
16 THE COURT: What part of the district or city
17 are you from?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Southeast Shelby County.
19 THE COURT: Okay. And how much education do
20 you have?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
22 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
23 your employer?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sales rep for Prime
25 Automotive.
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1 THE COURT: Tell us what they do again, I think
2 I heard earlier, but --
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, parts store, we sell
4 to parts stores and warehouses.
5 THE COURT: Okay. Are you married?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
7 THE COURT: And what is your wife's name and
8 her occupation?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Betty, and she works for
10 Methodist Hospital.
11 THE COURT: Okay. Do you know of any reason
12 that you could not serve on this jury and be fair and
13 impartial?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
15 THE COURT: I should have asked you, do you
16 have children?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
18 THE COURT: How many children?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, two of my own and one
20 stepson.
21 THE COURT: And I should ask, Mr. White, do you
22 have children?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir, two.
24 THE COURT: Two children, okay.
25 Hand that over to Mr. Salaam. How are you
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1 doing this morning?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Perfect.
3 THE COURT: What part of the district or city
4 are you from?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Midtown.
6 THE COURT: What is your educational
7 background?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Doctorate.
9 THE COURT: Is that in -- what's that in?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Theology.
11 THE COURT: Theology. You know, nobody asked
12 this question directly, and we nearly always ask this
13 question also, and it really goes to everybody, is there
14 any theological reason that you could not sit in judgment
15 in a case? And some people do feel that they cannot sit
16 in judgment. May as well ask the first one.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, not at all.
18 THE COURT: Generally speaking, most people who
19 have your background say that. There are a couple of
20 denominations who do not want their members to sit on
21 juries.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
23 THE COURT: Have you ever run into that?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
25 THE COURT: Okay. Let's see, what is your
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1 occupation and who is your employer?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Forest Hill Funeral Home
3 and Cemeteries. I'm a family service counselor and also
4 funeral director.
5 THE COURT: Are you married?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
7 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
8 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
10 THE COURT: Thank you. Mr. Vedder, what part
11 of the district or city are you from?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Tipton County.
13 THE COURT: Okay. And actually you're from
14 sort of northwest of Tipton County?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Northwest.
16 THE COURT: Toward the river?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
18 THE COURT: And what is your educational
19 background?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One year of college.
21 THE COURT: And what is your occupation and who
22 is your employer?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm general manager of a
24 warehouse for Cirtain Plywood, Incorporated.
25 THE COURT: Okay. Are you married?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
2 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
3 occupation?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Wife's name is Karen, and
5 she's retired.
6 THE COURT: Okay. Do you have children?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Got three daughters of my
8 own and one stepson.
9 THE COURT: All right. Do you know of any
10 reason that you could not serve on this jury and be fair
11 and impartial?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: None whatsoever, sir.
13 THE COURT: Thank you.
14 And, Mr. Smith, is it Mr. Marlow Smith?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Marlow Smith.
16 THE COURT: How are you doing today?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Doing pretty good.
18 THE COURT: What is your -- what part of the
19 district are you from?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I live in Whitehaven.
21 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your educational
22 background?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
24 THE COURT: What's your occupation and who is
25 your employer?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I'm a golf pro, but
2 I'm a retired golf pro.
3 THE COURT: Okay. Okay.
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I got down in my back and
5 can't do much playing anymore.
6 THE COURT: What was the best you ever shot,
7 I'm curious?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Four under.
9 THE COURT: Four under?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
11 THE COURT: That's a lot better than most
12 people.
13 Are you married?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
15 THE COURT: What is he your wife's name and her
16 occupation?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Nell. She works for
18 Walgreens.
19 THE COURT: Children?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Got 14 kids, nine boys and
21 five girls.
22 THE COURT: That's true?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, 47 grandkids.
24 THE COURT: That's -- that may be a record.
25 Congratulations.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I've run across some that
2 had more.
3 THE COURT: That's wonderful. Well, do you
4 know of any reason that you could not serve on this jury
5 and be fair and impartial?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
7 THE COURT: Thank you. Ms. Starnes, what part
8 of the district or city are you from?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Raleigh area.
10 THE COURT: What's your educational background?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
12 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
13 your employer?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a billing manager for
15 Raleigh Cordova Medical Group.
16 THE COURT: Are you married?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Separated.
18 THE COURT: What does he do and what is his
19 name?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: His name is Robert, and
21 he's a mechanic for Gossett Mitsubishi.
22 THE COURT: Does that mean you get a good car
23 most of the time?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That means I don't drive a
25 Mitsubishi.
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1 THE COURT: All right. Do you have any
2 children?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have three.
4 THE COURT: Okay. Do you know of any reason
5 that you could not serve on this jury and be fair and
6 impartial?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can be fair and
8 impartial, and I did send in a reason with my
9 questionnaire, but they denied it.
10 THE COURT: Okay. You know, we don't
11 necessarily see that many of those, so is it a real
12 problem --
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's relevant, yes, sir.
14 THE COURT: I'm going on -- in a minute, I'm
15 going to let you come up and tell me, just so we know it's
16 okay. We have a lot of people who asked to be excused,
17 and then most people after they see the process think,
18 well, it's okay, they can do it. I will talk to you in
19 just a couple of minutes.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
21 THE COURT: Hand that back to Mr. Smith. Mr.
22 Smith, what part of the district or city are you from?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Southeast, Orange Mound
24 area.
25 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your educational
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1 background?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a master's.
3 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your occupation
4 and who is your employer?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a teacher at the Porter
6 Leath Home for Children.
7 THE COURT: That's a very famous institution.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, it is.
9 THE COURT: Are you married?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, divorced.
11 THE COURT: Children?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Ten.
13 THE COURT: These are all your kids?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All these are my kids.
15 THE COURT: Well, this is -- we're having a
16 contest this time. Do you know of any reason that you
17 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Your Honor, no, I don't.
19 THE COURT: Okay. Thanks very much.
20 Ms. Vickers -- or Reverend Vickers, actually.
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
22 THE COURT: What part of the district or city
23 are you from?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: From Halls, Tennessee,
25 which is Lauderdale County.
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1 THE COURT: You know, you have -- near Halls,
2 one of the most famous map stores in the country.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Haven't been there, but I
4 have heard of it.
5 THE COURT: It is amazing, they take orders
6 from all over the world. What is your educational
7 background?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Master of divinity.
9 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
10 your employer?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I pastor the Poplar Grove
12 Cumberland Presbyterian Church, and they are my employer.
13 THE COURT: Are you married?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Divorced.
15 THE COURT: Children?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Three.
17 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
18 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
21 Mr. Smith, Mr. Alphonso Smith, what part of the
22 city or district are you from?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I stay out in Raleigh.
24 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your educational
25 background?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Associate's degree.
2 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
3 your employer?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Presently, right now I'm a
5 dispatcher for Memphis Truck and Trailer Services on
6 Lamar.
7 THE COURT: Are you married?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
9 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
10 occupation?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My wife's name is Patricia.
12 She's a substitute teacher for the Memphis City School
13 system.
14 THE COURT: Any children?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two girls.
16 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
17 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
19 THE COURT: Thank you. Mr. Stovall, what part
20 of the district or city are you from?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Collierville.
22 THE COURT: What is your educational
23 background?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Bachelor's degree.
25 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
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1 your employer?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a salesman for
3 Yarbrough Cable Service.
4 THE COURT: Are you married?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
6 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
7 occupation?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Susan Stovall. She is a
9 registered nurse office manager for a psychiatrist.
10 THE COURT: Okay. Do you know of -- do you
11 have any children?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Four.
13 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
14 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
16 THE COURT: Thank you.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
18 THE COURT: Mr. Viverette, what part of the
19 district or city are you from?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: South Memphis.
21 THE COURT: What is your educational
22 background?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: BS.
24 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
25 your employer?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Substitute teacher, Memphis
2 City Schools.
3 THE COURT: Are you married?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
5 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
6 occupation?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Elize Viverette, teacher,
8 Memphis City School system.
9 THE COURT: Children?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Three boys.
11 THE COURT: All right. Do you know of any
12 reason that you could not serve on this jury and be fair
13 and impartial?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
15 THE COURT: Thank you.
16 And, Ms. Saul, what part of the district or
17 city are you from?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Wolfchase area.
19 THE COURT: What is your educational
20 background?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
22 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
23 your employer?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Secretary, U. S. Department
25 of Agriculture.
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1 THE COURT: Are you married?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Divorced.
3 THE COURT: Children?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One.
5 THE COURT: And do you know of any reason that
6 you could not serve on this jury and be fair and
7 impartial?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
9 THE COURT: Thank you.
10 And, Ms. Snodgrass, what part of the district
11 or city are you from?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Raleigh.
13 THE COURT: What is your educational
14 background?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school and a few
16 college courses.
17 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
18 your employer?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Flight attendant, Delta
20 Airlines.
21 THE COURT: Are you married?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Divorced.
23 THE COURT: Children?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Three girls.
25 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
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1 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No reason at all.
3 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Murphy, I
4 think that may have covered everything. Anything else
5 from the United States?
6 MR. MURPHY: No, sir, Your Honor.
7 THE COURT: Anything else from the defense?
8 MR. BECRAFT: None, Your Honor.
9 THE COURT: All right. If you will each fill
10 out your strike sheets and, of course, they're exercised
11 simultaneously, and I will explain to you what is going
12 on. When we first go through the -- and sometimes we have
13 a lot of conflicts, in this case not very many. Oh, wait
14 a minute, we have got somebody who wants to talk to us.
15 Ms. Starnes, come around to side bar. Sorry, Ms. Starnes.
16 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
17 bench.)
18 THE COURT: I didn't mean to leave you out.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's okay. The only
20 thing I had to send in is my husband, his father, his
21 health is not good, and I am his caregiver, I'm his
22 primary caregiver, I'm who he calls. If something were to
23 go wrong and I was here and he couldn't get me, he won't
24 call anybody else. I mean I take care of his finances and
25 I coordinate his medical care, and he lives by himself,
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1 and I -- you know, I'm not trying to get out of
2 everything, I'm just who he calls.
3 THE COURT: I understand. Let me ask you a
4 couple of questions.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
6 THE COURT: Just to make sure. One, let me
7 tell you one thing, we will probably select at least one
8 alternate in the case, so assuming that there's no
9 emergency, of course, you could serve, and if it turned
10 out that he had to go to the hospital or something, we
11 could let you be excused, that wouldn't be --
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. I just want to make
13 sure I can take care of him, that's all.
14 THE COURT: Right. And so we recognize these
15 things can happen.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
17 THE COURT: Now, let me ask a couple of things.
18 Now, does he -- he's -- is he ambulatory, he gets around
19 on his own?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Not well.
21 THE COURT: About how old is he?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's 82.
23 THE COURT: Okay.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He has got Parkinson's
25 disease along with some other medical conditions, but the
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1 Parkinson's keeps him from moving around well.
2 THE COURT: How often do you see him?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Usually about twice a week,
4 and then I talk to him every day.
5 THE COURT: Okay. He's become your buddy and
6 that sort of thing, I mean?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: There's not any other
8 family.
9 THE COURT: You're it?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Like I said, Robert would
11 do for him, but he's going to call me. I just take care
12 of everything and have since -- well, for a long time.
13 THE COURT: For a long time?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He can't drive or anything.
15 THE COURT: Okay. Does he take care of his own
16 meals or does somebody come in and help him?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He does do his own meals.
18 THE COURT: Does he take any medications that
19 you have to be concerned about?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no, he takes care of
21 all of that.
22 THE COURT: Okay. Let -- what we normally do,
23 if somebody is the sole caregiver of somebody who
24 requires, you know, constant care, and that doesn't mean
25 every minute, but that means somebody there in the
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1 morning, afternoon, somebody is there quite a bit of the
2 time during every day, we excuse them, we always do.
3 That's just pretty routine. If it is somebody who has a
4 primary responsibility, but is only there a couple of
5 times a week, what we usually do is ask them to serve on
6 the jury, but tell them that, you know, they can check in
7 with the individual, and -- we ask them not to keep their
8 cell phone on during court, but, you know, if it is an
9 emergency that comes up that at that time we will address
10 it and excuse them. We need to. But the main question
11 I'm going to let these lawyers ask -- there's another
12 question they usually ask. Anything else, Mr. Murphy.?
13 MR. MURPHY: Ma'am, is the -- thinking about
14 your father-in-law situation, is it going to weigh on your
15 mind so much you're going to have trouble listening to the
16 proof?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
18 MR. MURPHY: Okay.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can't let anybody worry
20 me that much, I would go crazy.
21 THE COURT: But I mean that's the main thing we
22 want to know.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Like I said, as long as I
24 know that if something happened, that I can drop and run.
25 THE COURT: As long as you tell us.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You would know. You would
2 know.
3 THE COURT: Just let us know right away and we
4 will take care of it.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. That's the main
6 thing. Thank you.
7 (The following proceedings were had in open
8 court.)
9 THE COURT: All right. Each side can fill out
10 their peremptory challenge sheets. There are two kinds of
11 challenges. One is for cause, that's what I indicated
12 earlier, and that's when somebody knows somebody to such
13 degree, for example, that they couldn't be fair or maybe
14 they have had a very similar experience, then, typically,
15 they're allowed to be excused for cause. Once we have got
16 14 people who are not excused for cause, then each side
17 gets a certain number of peremptory challenges, and
18 technically -- well, theoretically, they can excuse you
19 for any reason, but there are a couple of unconstitutional
20 reasons that they cannot excuse you, so -- I would like to
21 correct that. They cannot excuse you because of your
22 gender, they couldn't try to knock all the women off or
23 all of the men off. They couldn't excuse you because of
24 your race, they couldn't excuse you because of your
25 national origin, religion, things that are protected under
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1 the Constitution, they cannot excuse you for those
2 reasons, but -- and so they have pretty broad discretion
3 in peremptory challenges, but not unlimited discretion.
4 In a minute, they're going to hand up their peremptory
5 challenge sheets, and we will see who gets to go ahead and
6 go home and who gets to stay with us. And when we excuse
7 that group of people, then we call folks from the panel
8 and ask you some additional questions.
9 We got a lawyer back there? Somebody who looks
10 like a lawyer? He's not one, I suppose. He's not a
11 lawyer. Okay. He's all right. No problem.
12 (Strike sheets were handed to the Judge.)
13 THE COURT: Okay. Let me see counsel at side
14 bar.
15 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
16 bench.)
17 THE COURT: There were five strikes by the
18 defense, but one of them was previously struck by the
19 government, so there are four charged against the
20 defendant.
21 On the first row, defense -- excuse me, the
22 defense struck Mr. White and then the government struck
23 Mr. Spurlin and Mr. Salaam, and the defense struck Mr.
24 Smith, Mr. Marlow Smith, and the defense struck Ms.
25 Starnes in seat seven, so two, three, four, six, seven.
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1 On the second row, the defense struck Ms. Saul in seat
2 nine. The government struck Mr. Viverette in seat 10 and
3 Ms. Vickers in seat 13. So the rest are accepted as
4 jurors in the case. Any objections by the government?
5 MR. MURPHY: No, sir, Your Honor.
6 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor.
7 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
8 MR. BECRAFT: I'm operating under the
9 presumption there's no back strikes?
10 THE COURT: There are no back strikes.
11 (The following proceedings were had in open
12 court.)
13 THE COURT: We're going to excuse part of you,
14 eight of you, and keep the rest, and for those who are
15 being excused, thanks for being here, and we do appreciate
16 the fact that you were available for service.
17 On the first row, we're going to excuse Mr.
18 White, Mr. Spurlin, Mr. Salaam and Mr. Smith, Mr. Marlow
19 Smith. So first row, seats two, three, four and six and,
20 Ms. Starnes, seven.
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Do we need to call back
22 tomorrow?
23 THE COURT: You will not need to. In fact,
24 this counts as your jury service. So thanks very much.
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
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1 THE COURT: Appreciate it.
2 On the second row, we're going to excuse Ms.
3 Saul, Mr. Viverette and Reverend Vickers, so thank you.
4 Yes, ma'am, Ms. Starnes, we're going to let you be
5 excused. It worked out well for you.
6 We're going to reseat the ones who have been
7 selected because you have been selected as jurors in the
8 case, and we're going to ask Mr. Vedder, move over to seat
9 two. Ms. Snodgrass will actually move to seat three, Mr.
10 Stovall to seat four, Mr. Smith to seat five -- Mr.
11 Alphonso Smith seat five, Mr. Keith Smith to seat six. So
12 you become the first six jurors that have been accepted in
13 the case. We're going to seat another eight individuals
14 and ask them a few more questions. We will start with
15 filling seat number seven and then seat eight and so
16 forth.
17 THE CLERK: Billy Shaneyfelt. Phillip Smith.
18 Rose Saulsbury. Freida Straughter. Melanie Stewart.
19 Patsy Smith. Arun Gandhi. Russell Ingram.
20 THE COURT: Is your last name pronounced
21 Shaneyfelt?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Shaneyfelt.
23 THE COURT: Mr. Shaneyfelt, how are you today?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fine.
25 THE COURT: We asked quite a few questions.
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1 I'm going to sort of reverse my process a little bit and
2 just go ahead and ask those people those last questions to
3 make sure we have covered that with everybody, and then I
4 will ask a couple of follow-up questions. Would you stand
5 and tell us what part of the district or city you're from?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm from Bartlett.
7 THE COURT: And what is your educational
8 background?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's degree.
10 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
11 your employer?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm an interface programmer
13 with Baptist Hospital.
14 THE COURT: Tell us what that does so we will
15 understand.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Computers talk to
17 computers, I control that.
18 THE COURT: Are you married?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, married.
20 THE COURT: And your wife's name and her
21 occupation?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Wife's name is Pam. She is
23 a school teacher with Shelby County schools, and we have
24 two children.
25 THE COURT: Two children. Do you know of any
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1 reason that you could not serve on this jury and be fair
2 and impartial?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
4 THE COURT: We had asked a lot of questions
5 about the type of case and prejudgment and all those
6 questions, did they seem to make sense to you?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
8 THE COURT: Do you have any problem in giving
9 the defendant the presumption of innocence that the law
10 requires on each and every count in this case?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No problem.
12 THE COURT: If the government fails to prove
13 its case against the defendant on any count or all counts,
14 do you understand you have to return a verdict of not
15 guilty?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
17 THE COURT: All right. Well, we talked about
18 all of those characteristics, I'm going to ask other folks
19 a few other things.
20 Hand that back to Mr. Ingram, if you would.
21 Mr. Ingram, how are you today?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm fine, thanks.
23 THE COURT: Are you married to a lawyer?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, not a lawyer.
25 THE COURT: A judge? I know.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
2 THE COURT: Well, she is also a lawyer.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I suppose so. She is my
4 lawyer.
5 THE COURT: That's right. You're in trouble,
6 but that's good. Well, first of all, what part of the
7 district or city are you from?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Highland Park.
9 THE COURT: And what is your educational
10 background?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a couple of
12 bachelor's degrees.
13 THE COURT: What's your occupation and who is
14 your employer?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a general manager. I
16 work for Physiotherapy Associates, one of their divisions.
17 THE COURT: Okay. You are married, is that
18 correct?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am married.
20 THE COURT: Your wife's name is and her
21 occupation?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Holly Kirby. She is a
23 Tennessee appellate court judge.
24 THE COURT: Do you -- y'all don't have any
25 kids?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have two stepchildren.
2 THE COURT: Two stepchildren, right. Do you
3 know of any reason that you could not serve on this jury
4 and be fair and impartial?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: There's no reason I could
6 not be fair and impartial, however, there is a reason that
7 I can't serve, if it please you.
8 THE COURT: I'm going to make a note and we
9 will talk about that in a minute.
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. Thanks.
11 THE COURT: It's Mr. Arun Gandhi?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Gandhi.
13 THE COURT: You're from India?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
15 THE COURT: And your very famous relative --
16 you have a very famous relative?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
18 THE COURT: And before -- I'm going to ask a
19 couple of questions, though. Tell us what part of the
20 district or city you're from.
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Midtown.
22 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your educational
23 background?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Home schooler.
25 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your occupation
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1 and who is your employer?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm self-employed, and my
3 occupation is teaching nonviolence.
4 THE COURT: Exactly. And I was trying to think
5 of the correct name for the center that --
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The M. K. Gandhi Institute
7 for Nonviolence.
8 THE COURT: Are you married?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
10 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
11 occupation?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sanunda. She is a
13 researcher.
14 THE COURT: Where is she a researcher?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: At the institute.
16 THE COURT: Do you have children?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two.
18 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
19 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Like him, I have a
21 personal reason.
22 THE COURT: Okay. I'm going to put that down,
23 and we'll -- I'll just ask those questions at side bar.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
25 THE COURT: Thank you. Ms. Smith, what part of
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1 the district or city are you from?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: East Memphis.
3 THE COURT: And what is your educational
4 background?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
6 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
7 your employer?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Housewife.
9 THE COURT: Are you married?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, 45 years.
11 THE COURT: All right. Do you have children?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have one daughter and one
13 stepdaughter.
14 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
15 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
17 THE COURT: Okay. We did ask everybody, I have
18 got two people I'm going to talk to at side bar, but it
19 was a long discussion really about not forming opinions
20 before you've heard all the evidence and had the final
21 arguments, final instructions on the law. Any problem
22 with following those instructions and proceeding in that
23 manner?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't think so.
25 THE COURT: When you -- when I read the
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1 indictment and we had all that discussion and I read the
2 indictment, did you think -- does that put -- cause some
3 stress for people in terms of being able to remain fair
4 and impartial?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kind of.
6 THE COURT: Okay. No, that's really what I'm
7 talking about.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
9 THE COURT: Why do you say that? I think
10 you're right, but why do you say that?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I don't really know,
12 it's just -- I mean we all know we have to fill out taxes,
13 so I don't know, it just kind of seems strange.
14 THE COURT: Okay. All right. And in the
15 law -- in the tax law, there's law about the requirements
16 to file taxes and there's also a thing called a good faith
17 defense, and that's what we're probably going to be
18 talking about in this case. I don't know that for sure,
19 because they never tell me exactly what they're going to
20 do, because they don't have to. And it's a theory under
21 which a person can proceed without -- perhaps without
22 taxes, and the jury just has to decide that question.
23 Now, you can't start out on one side or the other, you
24 have to listen to the law as I give it to you at the end
25 of the case and apply that. I'm going to tell you
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1 something about the law before the case really gets going
2 too. Can you keep an open mind, because I think you hit
3 it right on the head, it sort of moves you off center a
4 little bit and you have to work to get back to center.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'll try.
6 THE COURT: Okay. And you understand why we're
7 trying to do that?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
9 THE COURT: Because it's not fair for anybody
10 to start out with some mark on that slate.
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
12 THE COURT: Okay. I just wanted to make sure I
13 covered that with somebody, and everybody agrees.
14 Let's hand that to Ms. Stewart. Ms. Stewart,
15 how are you from?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just fine, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: What part of the city or district
18 are you?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Germantown.
20 THE COURT: And what is your educational
21 background?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Law school.
23 THE COURT: And that's not a very profitable
24 advocation at this point, going to school. How long have
25 you been going to school?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, my educational
2 background is law school. I have been an attorney for 22
3 years.
4 THE COURT: I thought so. I thought there was
5 an attorney out there, and you didn't raise your hand.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm the senior partner in
7 Stewart and Wilkinson.
8 THE COURT: That's what I though.
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I raised my hand.
10 THE COURT: I didn't see you, and I thought I
11 had it mixed up.
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We do insurance defense
13 work.
14 THE COURT: I feel much better now. I wasn't
15 wrong about that.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: But I don't disagree.
17 THE COURT: Do you do tax work?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, Your Honor, not on a
19 regular -- occasionally we have tax questions, but not
20 very often.
21 THE COURT: You know, the --
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: But I am in the Falls
23 Building, and the IRS is on the fourth and sixth floor.
24 THE COURT: What floor are you on?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The eighth.
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1 THE COURT: You know something, we had jurors
2 who were lawyers before, that's really not a problem if
3 they can do certain things. For example, they have to not
4 tell everybody else what the law is, they have to take the
5 law from the judge. Now, usually the law I give them --
6 because these lawyers will all tell you, it is very clear
7 that that is really the law, but is that something that
8 you would be able to do if you were the -- a juror, that
9 is take the law as I give it to you and not substitute
10 your own opinion about what the law is?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, Your Honor.
12 THE COURT: Okay. You don't -- now, you do
13 mainly insurance defense now?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
15 THE COURT: Okay. I want to make sure, I'm
16 going to go back and ask that question again, have you
17 ever done a tax case?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Have I ever handled a tax
19 case? No. Have I given opinions after research on tax
20 law? Yes.
21 THE COURT: Have you ever given an opinion in
22 connection with 26 United States Code, Section 7201?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
24 THE COURT: I want to make sure that we haven't
25 done that. Now, the other thing is, ladies and gentlemen,
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1 for all the rest of you, I'm not going to go back on my
2 other jurors, particularly, but do you realize that if Ms.
3 Stewart is an attorney in the case, we just always make
4 sure that the jury understands that she can't answer any
5 legal questions, and you can't ask her any legal questions
6 because she is just there as a fact-finder and then a
7 person to apply the law. She is not there to give legal
8 advice to the jury, and it would be improper to do that.
9 Any problem with that, Mr. Shaneyfelt, that you wouldn't
10 be able to say, now you're a lawyer, you ought to know the
11 answer to this? You would not be able to do that?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
13 THE COURT: Okay. And I'm going to go back to
14 a couple of my jurors that are already selected, I usually
15 don't necessarily do this, but, Ms. Vasser, do you
16 understand that you wouldn't be able to defer to Ms.
17 Stewart just because she is a lawyer? You couldn't just
18 agree with her because she is a lawyer, because you're
19 there to decide the facts and to apply the law to them,
20 you're not there to just agree. It's a trial by twelve --
21 trial by twelve jurors, not a trial by one juror who is
22 going to tell all the jurors what to do. That's real
23 important everybody agree on that. Any problem with that?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
25 THE COURT: If Ms. Stewart says, look, this is
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1 what I think ought to be done, you realize you don't have
2 to agree with her?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
4 THE COURT: Do you have any problem with
5 disagreeing with somebody if you think that they're wrong
6 and you're right?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I do not.
8 THE COURT: Mr. Vedder, any problem with the
9 fact that you would not be able to turn to somebody and
10 say, now, this is what Ms. Stewart says, she is a lawyer,
11 therefore, you should agree; you could not do that?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No problem, Judge.
13 THE COURT: I hope this makes sense to
14 everybody. It is real important.
15 Ms. Snodgrass, any problem with that?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No problem.
17 THE COURT: In other words, you're going to
18 decide the facts and those fact issues are not ones on
19 which a lawyer could express an opinion other than just
20 like everybody else? They would just say, well, I think
21 these are the facts, no problem with that.
22 Let me make sure, then, it's Mr. Stovall, Mr.
23 Stovall, any problem with the fact that you're going to
24 have to make up your own mind about the facts, you could
25 not refer to an attorney who happened --
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: That also means that you don't have
3 to elect an attorney foreperson. I'm not saying -- you do
4 what you want to on that --
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
6 THE COURT: But they don't get special status.
7 Nobody gets a special spot on the panel with special
8 deference. Any problem with that?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
10 THE COURT: And Mr. Alphonso Smith, any problem
11 with the fact that if you do happen to end up with a
12 lawyer on the panel, you cannot give their opinion or
13 their observations as to the facts any more -- you have
14 got to rely on yourself to determine the facts and consult
15 with all your other members of the jury, you can't just
16 rely on one person who happens to have a law degree.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No problem.
18 THE COURT: And the same thing for Mr. Keith
19 Smith.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no, Your Honor, no
21 problem.
22 THE COURT: We have actually -- and I think we
23 have already covered it with Mr. Shaneyfelt, so I will
24 hand it back to Mr. Ingram.
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't have a problem.
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1 THE COURT: And the same thing, Mr. Gandhi, you
2 understand if you're on the panel, you couldn't do that.
3 I'm going to go to Ms. Patsy Smith, any problem
4 with that, Ms. Smith?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Huh-uh.
6 THE COURT: Even if it turns out that you like
7 Ms. Stewart, you wouldn't be able to agree with her just
8 because she is a lawyer, is that okay?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
10 THE COURT: Ms. Stewart, I hope that doesn't
11 offend you, but we always check this out, and sometimes we
12 end up with physicians, we do the same thing with anybody
13 who -- you know, if it is a malpractice case, we still ask
14 the same question. Now, is that going to be difficult for
15 you to sit as a juror and be fair and impartial?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
17 THE COURT: Because -- are you usually aligned
18 with one side or the other, the government or the defense?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We do civil litigation,
20 Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: Okay.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We -- some of the lawyers
23 in my office may handle some criminal work, but I don't.
24 THE COURT: All right. Let's go back and make
25 sure I covered a couple of other things. Are you married?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
2 THE COURT: And your husband's name?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sam.
4 THE COURT: And what does he do?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's an insurance adjuster
6 for GEICO.
7 THE COURT: Has he been busy?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
9 THE COURT: Do you have children?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We have two girls, three
11 and a half and 19 months.
12 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
13 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
15 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. You threw me
16 off, I didn't see you raise your hand, so I completely --
17 I thought I was wrong. Nice to have you.
18 Now, let's see, help me with pronouncing your
19 last name.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Straughter.
21 THE COURT: I'm going to spell it phonetically
22 because you have got lots of letters in there. I
23 shortened it, so I will remember it. Ms. Straughter, how
24 are you today?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good. How are you?
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1 THE COURT: I'm fine. What part of the
2 district or city are you from?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In Mitchell Heights.
4 THE COURT: What is your educational
5 background?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
7 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
8 your employer?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay, I work for Memphis
10 City Schools, cafeteria helper, Idlewild Elementary.
11 THE COURT: They have had some famous alumni at
12 that school, it's a very interesting school.
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
14 THE COURT: Of course, there was -- one of the
15 district judges went to that school. He's retired now.
16 And then I'm going to tell something I shouldn't probably
17 say, I think Machine Gun Kelly went to Idlewild, didn't
18 he? It was before he became known in his later career,
19 very interesting history.
20 Are you married?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Divorced.
22 THE COURT: Children?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Four.
24 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
25 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
2 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. Ms. Saulsberry?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
4 THE COURT: What part of the city or district
5 are you from?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Southeast.
7 THE COURT: What is your educational
8 background?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Twelfth.
10 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
11 your employer?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Retired.
13 THE COURT: From what? We just want to make
14 sure you're not a retired IRS agent?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: From General Electric.
16 THE COURT: Okay. And are you married?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
18 THE COURT: Your husband's name and his
19 occupation?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Johnny, retired.
21 THE COURT: What did he retire from?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Cleowrap.
23 THE COURT: Children?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One daughter.
25 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
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1 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
3 THE COURT: And I did ask Ms. Patsy Smith
4 some -- a little longer question, I want to ask one of you
5 those questions, but do you think that it is difficult to
6 get back to being a completely neutral person when you
7 know the nature of the charges? Does it cause you some
8 concern about being able to do that?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I do.
10 THE COURT: And it does seem very important
11 that we all be able to do that. Do you think with effort
12 people can go back to that point and really put the
13 government to its burden of proof in this case?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think we can.
15 THE COURT: All right. I'm going to ask you to
16 hand that over to Mr. Phillip Smith. We have got lots of
17 Smiths on the panel. Mr. Smith, how are you doing today?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm doing fine.
19 THE COURT: What part of the district or city
20 are you from?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm from Raleigh.
22 THE COURT: What's your educational background?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school plus trade
24 schools.
25 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
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1 your employer?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm semi-retired. I have a
3 landscape business now.
4 THE COURT: Okay. I would assume that has been
5 busy lately, though, with all this --
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, not too bad.
7 THE COURT: What did you do before you retired?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I worked for E. I. DuPont
9 for 32 years.
10 THE COURT: In what section?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I worked in
12 operations, hydrogen peroxide, sodium cyanide,
13 acrylonitrile and in maintenance the last ten years.
14 THE COURT: The last ten years, okay. It is an
15 interesting -- it has been an interesting place to work.
16 Are you married?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm married. My wife's
18 name is Wilma. I have two sons.
19 THE COURT: Does she still work?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a domestic employee.
21 THE COURT: Okay. She works -- you're saying
22 she works at home?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
24 THE COURT: That's the best deal anybody can
25 ever get is for you to have a spouse that will do that.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
2 THE COURT: Because it takes a lot of energy.
3 Do you know of any reason that you could not serve on this
4 jury and be fair and impartial?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have had a little bit of
6 experience with persons not paying tax. I had some
7 employees that stopped paying tax, and they tried to
8 convince me not to pay tax.
9 THE COURT: I'm going to do this, I'm going to
10 let us talk about that just a little bit at side bar. Are
11 you familiar at all with the law in this area?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I haven't studied the law
13 on the taxes.
14 THE COURT: We will talk about that in just a
15 minute. We have got three people to talk with at side
16 bar, and I'm going to have Mr. Ingram come around first.
17 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
18 bench.)
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good afternoon.
20 THE COURT: How are you doing today?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm fine.
22 THE COURT: What is your situation?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm in school.
24 THE COURT: Oh.
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a master candidate at
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1 Vanderbilt, and I will miss school, which is -- I really
2 can't afford to do that.
3 THE COURT: You're actually during session
4 right now?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Actually, the pre-session
6 starts tomorrow and then the full session starts on
7 Thursday morning. So, you know, it's --
8 THE COURT: Does anybody have any problem with
9 letting him be excused?
10 MR. BECRAFT: No.
11 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy?
12 MR. MURPHY: No, Your Honor. I'm falling apart
13 here.
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would like to serve at
15 some point. Is there any way I can defer and --
16 THE COURT: Sure. Mrs. Saba, let Ms. Dote
17 know. When will you be out of school?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: May of 2004.
19 THE COURT: Just put him down for May of 2004.
20 (The following proceedings were had in open
21 court.)
22 THE COURT: Mr. Gandhi, if you would come
23 around, please.
24 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
25 bench.)
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1 THE COURT: How are you doing?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Very well, thank you.
3 THE COURT: What is your situation?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have to be in Wisconsin
5 over the weekend, conduct some workshops there, and I
6 don't know if I will be able to get back then by Monday in
7 case the -- in case the case goes on Monday.
8 THE COURT: That's really what -- do you have
9 any questions or what do you think?
10 MR. MURPHY: When are you leaving to go up to
11 Wisconsin?
12 THE WITNESS: Friday night.
13 THE COURT: And where are you going up there?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Appleton. That's a long
15 drive, Judge.
16 THE COURT: Any objection to allowing Mr.
17 Gandhi to be excused?
18 MR. MURPHY: No, sir.
19 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: I think that really might be an
21 impediment. I take it you have to get ready for the
22 workshop?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
24 THE COURT: You would like to be excused?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Please.
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1 THE COURT: Without objection, we will let you
2 be excused.
3 MR. BECRAFT: No objection, Your Honor.
4 MR. MURPHY: Thank you.
5 (The following proceedings were had in open
6 court.)
7 THE COURT: Mr. Smith, yes, sir.
8 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
9 bench.)
10 THE COURT: We're going to let you stand right
11 here. What is your situation, you had some employees
12 who --
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I worked with some
14 guys that didn't pay income tax for several years. They
15 tried to convince me not to pay income tax, and I think
16 they were convicted and sentenced. It was Eddie Perry and
17 a John Pollard, and I was one of their supervisors, and
18 the other one was before I was supervisor, and I don't
19 know how many years they didn't pay tax, but they didn't
20 convince me, I paid tax and everything, but --
21 THE COURT: Were they at DuPont?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
23 THE COURT: At DuPont?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Both of them worked at
25 DuPont. And it was several people that wasn't paying
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1 taxes, and I understand that they were -- did get some
2 time out of it. I'm not sure about Pollard, but I think
3 Eddie Perry did.
4 THE COURT: Well, do you --
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It doesn't have any effect
6 on me. I mean --
7 THE COURT: At some point in time, you
8 determined something about their argument about not paying
9 taxes. Did you consider --
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: At the time I thought they
11 were wrong, but I didn't believe them enough that I -- I
12 paid my taxes.
13 THE COURT: Okay. Any questions from anybody
14 else?
15 MR. MURPHY: No.
16 MR. BECRAFT: None.
17 THE COURT: Okay. We're -- we'll keep you.
18 Thanks very much.
19 (The following proceedings were had in open
20 court.)
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Can I ask to speak to you
22 up there?
23 THE COURT: Yes, sir. Okay, we will let you
24 come around.
25 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
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1 bench.)
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm not trying to be exempt
3 from the case, I have one problem that I have come up with
4 is we're having in-service training where I work at at
5 Porter Leath, and I'm doing a CDA class in the evening
6 around 5:00 o'clock at the library. I don't want to be
7 exempted from the class, I want to be a part of it, but
8 would that be a problem?
9 THE COURT: We will normally leave between 5:00
10 and 5:15, so that is going to be an impediment for that
11 class, I think.
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
13 THE COURT: And when does Porter Leath start
14 in-service?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We started today, but I had
16 to be here today.
17 THE COURT: Right, exactly.
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
19 THE COURT: Exactly. Now, what's this class
20 you're taking at the library?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's called CDA,
22 certification for day treatment.
23 THE COURT: What do you do the skills for?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, basically what we do
25 is, I'm working early childhood development program, and
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1 what we do is we get certified under that type of facility
2 whereas we take care of babies, more or less, six months
3 to three years old. Once they become three years old,
4 then they graduate from my program, and they move to
5 another program, and I just started, you know, this
6 program, so I didn't have any -- I didn't have enough
7 hours even with my master's in child care, so they are
8 sending me to CDA class, okay, so I can get my
9 credentials.
10 THE COURT: Is this required for you to
11 continue to work at Porter Leath?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
13 THE COURT: How often is the course offered?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's three days a week.
15 It's weekly right now, because we graduate the 27th of
16 September. It is like three days a week.
17 THE COURT: How long -- and it's now starting?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It just started this past
19 week, yes, sir.
20 THE COURT: How many classes have you attended
21 already?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Eight.
23 THE COURT: And how long does it go in the
24 evening?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It goes from like 5:00
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1 o'clock until like 7:30.
2 THE COURT: Where do they teach the course, is
3 it at the main library?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir, on Poplar.
5 THE COURT: And does it start on time at 5:00?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sometimes it does.
7 Sometimes it doesn't, you know. Annette Knox is giving
8 the class, so it really -- it varies.
9 THE COURT: Questions?
10 MR. MURPHY: No, sir.
11 THE COURT: Do you think you ought to be
12 excused in this?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, it depends on you
14 all.
15 THE COURT: I think they would like you to stay
16 regardless.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right, right. I enjoy it,
18 I have no problem as long as it doesn't interfere with my
19 job.
20 THE COURT: It's going to make you a little
21 late to those classes, but we'll -- I'll -- we usually
22 leave by 5:15 so that will make -- if you get there by
23 5:30 --
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: As long as the court can
25 notify Porter Leath and let them know.
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1 THE COURT: We can, and we will actually do
2 that. People ask us to do that.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
4 (The following proceedings were had in open
5 court.)
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Your Honor, may I address
7 you also?
8 THE COURT: Sure, come around.
9 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
10 bench.)
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry, I just wondered,
12 I have in the past and currently owe back taxes, but the
13 IRS has always been very fair with me on setting up
14 payment plans, so I just wanted to let that come out.
15 THE COURT: Well, I don't think I have ever,
16 but that's the nature of what I do.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's part of being
18 self-employed.
19 THE COURT: I was going to say I think that is
20 part of being self-employed. Is that going to cause you
21 to feel uncomfortable?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, no, sir. The IRS has
23 always been very fair to me.
24 THE COURT: They usually work out payment
25 plans, but this is not about that.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I understand that.
2 THE COURT: This is about a good faith defense.
3 I don't even -- I don't even know that they're going to
4 argue about that -- they're just going to argue --
5 MR. BECRAFT: Her beliefs.
6 THE COURT: I will get more into that, Your
7 Honor.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
9 THE COURT: And I will give you the law on
10 that. It's not going to be a real lengthy instruction.
11 Do you have any problem ruling against the IRS if they
12 have been nice to you, that's the question?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
14 THE COURT: Well, I mean --
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do feel like I could be
16 fair.
17 THE COURT: Okay.
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
19 (The following proceedings were had in open
20 court.)
21 THE COURT: I'm going to call two more names to
22 take seat 13 and 14.
23 THE CLERK: Donald Stage. Larry Inderbitzen.
24 THE COURT: Mr. Stage, how are you?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good. How about you?
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1 THE COURT: I'm fine. What part of the
2 district or city are you from?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Collierville.
4 THE COURT: What is your educational
5 background?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Technical college.
7 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
8 your employer?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Vice-president, Commercial
10 Filter, Incorporated.
11 THE COURT: Where are they located?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Holmes Road and Lamar.
13 THE COURT: Okay. Are you married?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
15 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
16 occupation?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Alicia, and she is a
18 student, starts teaching at U of M next year.
19 THE COURT: Do you have children?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
21 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
22 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
24 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Inderbitzen?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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1 THE COURT: Tell us what part of the city or
2 district you're from.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm from Midtown.
4 THE COURT: What is your educational
5 background?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a BA degree.
7 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
8 your employer?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm in sales with Memphis
10 Glove Company.
11 THE COURT: You know, I have this recollection
12 that Memphis Glove is a really big glove company, is that
13 right?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, it is considerable.
15 THE COURT: I've heard that it is one of the
16 larger ones around.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's correct.
18 THE COURT: Are you married?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I have a wife named
20 Rebecca, and three children.
21 THE COURT: What -- does your wife work outside
22 the home?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, she does. She works
24 for Broom Corn Fabric.
25 THE COURT: Is she at the Midtown store?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, she isn't. She is at
2 the Perkins location.
3 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
4 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
6 THE COURT: You know, we're trying to ask
7 somebody in every new group if they have frankly such
8 skepticism about the case that they are going to find it
9 difficult to decide the case solely on the evidence that
10 comes from the witness stand and the law as I give it to
11 them? You're at Memphis Glove and, of course, you have
12 been there how long?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Five years.
14 THE COURT: Five years. And you see why
15 someone might be concerned?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure, absolutely.
17 THE COURT: That this might be confusing.
18 There is such a thing as a good faith defense. I don't
19 know whether -- I don't know what the facts are, and if I
20 did, I couldn't tell them anyway, because that's not my
21 job. My job is to make sure that we get twelve people who
22 haven't already made up their mind one way or the other
23 and who are going to listen to the evidence and then apply
24 the law to the facts as they determine the facts to be,
25 and you're going to make some crucial factual decisions in
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1 this case, it sounds like to me. Does it sound like that
2 to you?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
4 THE COURT: And some things are not going to be
5 in dispute. I don't want to get too far ahead, but I
6 don't know that the defense is going to say -- they're not
7 going to say, well, I really did file my income tax
8 return, they're not going to say that. That is not what
9 they're saying. They're saying that, I think -- if I get
10 this wrong, they will quickly tell me -- that Ms. Kuglin
11 had a good faith belief that she did not have to file
12 these returns. I have said it as simply as I could.
13 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor.
14 THE COURT: You don't have to agree with me
15 just because I'm sitting up here, believe me, that's not
16 the point, but that's -- and there's some law about that.
17 And if a juror is already on the jury and said, heck, I
18 don't believe that, then you can't be fair and impartial.
19 Now, if a juror says, oh, I'm already going to believe
20 that, that is not right either. Does that seem
21 reasonable? You have got to wait and listen to the proof.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's correct.
23 THE COURT: Now, can you be neutral and listen
24 to the proof and only decide after you have heard all of
25 the evidence, the final arguments of counsel, the final
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1 instructions on the law about what this defense is about
2 and about how you have to -- what has to be shown in order
3 for it to be the prevailing theory? And then -- and then
4 decide the case applying the law to the facts as you
5 determine -- that all twelve of you determine those facts
6 to be; can you do that?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
8 THE COURT: This is not a chance for anybody to
9 tell the government that they don't like paying taxes,
10 because it -- who likes to pay taxes? You know, I don't.
11 I will take my hand down. Nobody likes to pay taxes, so
12 it is not about liking to pay taxes. Well, I wasn't
13 trying to pick on you, but you looked -- you're the last
14 one.
15 All right. Now, Mr. Murphy, I'm going to --
16 you have got some questions for the panel, I know you do
17 of the new panelists.
18 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
19 THE COURT: So I will let you ask those
20 questions, and then we're going to take a break, though,
21 in about 15 minutes.
22 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir. Good afternoon, ladies
23 and gentlemen, the new members of the panel. I have a few
24 questions to ask you. Do any of you, ladies and
25 gentlemen, that were just seated, do you know any of the
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1 parties, anybody know me, the agents, Ms. Kuglin, the
2 defendant, the defense lawyers? No, okay. Do y'all know
3 anything about the case? Have you ever heard of people
4 talking about the case, speaking about the case? Nobody
5 is speaking up, so I'm going to take that to be a no.
6 Income taxes are always a sensitive subject.
7 You know, the judge said raise your hand if you like
8 paying taxes. Nobody likes paying taxes, that's a given.
9 The question in this case is does the fact -- does the --
10 is there something about the tax law or the tax code that
11 just upsets you so much or makes you mad or concerns you
12 so much that you can't be a fair juror in this case? And
13 either way, you know, you may think that the government
14 shouldn't prosecute people that don't pay taxes or you may
15 think the government ought to prosecute everybody that
16 doesn't pay taxes; anybody have strong feelings one way or
17 the other? Nobody is speaking up, so I'm going to take it
18 to mean one of two of things, either you ate a big lunch
19 and you're dozing off or you don't have a problem with
20 that proposition.
21 Do you, ladies and gentlemen, understand that
22 as the defendant sits before you now, she is innocent, she
23 is presumed to be innocent? Does everybody understand
24 that? Does anybody have a problem with the presumption of
25 innocence? Does everybody understand that the government
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1 has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt? Does
2 everybody understand that? Does anybody have a problem
3 with that? Does anybody think our burden should be
4 higher? Does anybody think our burden should be lower?
5 Nobody is speaking up, so, again, I'm going to take it
6 that that is not a problem for anybody.
7 Now, the law -- the way a jury trial works is
8 the jurors decide the facts, they decide whether the
9 government proved their case, but the judge will charge
10 you with what the law is. He'll say, you know, here is
11 what -- how -- the manner in which tax evasion is defined.
12 This is what the statute says. This is the law that
13 you're to apply. Does everybody understand that even if
14 you think that the law is stupid, ludicrous, that you
15 still have to apply it? Does everybody understand that?
16 Okay. Everybody's head is nodding. You can't substitute
17 what you think the law ought to be for what the judge
18 tells you it is.
19 Now, in this case, you'll hear from witnesses
20 who will come in and testify, and jurors in these cases
21 that we have in federal court decide the case that is
22 based on the proof that the judge -- the witness testimony
23 and the exhibits, does everybody understand that you can't
24 get back in the jury room and start talking, say, now,
25 wait a second, my brother-in-law who is on the police
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1 force or my brother-in-law who is an accountant says
2 that's not the way things work? Does everybody understand
3 you can't decide the case that way? You have got to
4 decide it on the facts. Anybody have a problem with that?
5 If you haven't already told us about it, has anybody had
6 any problems with the IRS?
7 Okay. Yes, ma'am, what kind of problems?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We were audited about seven
9 years ago. Oh, I'm sorry. We were audited about seven
10 years ago.
11 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Is it -- as a result, was
12 it a good experience, bad experience?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it was a bad
14 experience.
15 MR. MURPHY: Bad experience?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
17 MR. MURPHY: Based on that experience, is that
18 going to change the way you approach the case or look at
19 the case?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I'll try to be fair.
21 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Well, the question is, can
22 you be fair? Can you put that out of your mind?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'll do my best.
24 MR. MURPHY: Okay. You think you will be able
25 to, though?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Maybe. We had a bad
2 experience.
3 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Judge, can we approach at
4 side bar?
5 THE COURT: You can.
6 Ms. Smith, I'm going to let you come around,
7 too.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, okay.
9 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
10 bench.)
11 THE COURT: How are you doing?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Freezing.
13 THE COURT: What did they do to you?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They treated my husband
15 like dirt. He said they acted like he was nobody, and it
16 really wasn't his fault. He had one figure and his boss
17 had another. It mounted out that we had to pay like $250
18 more, and he said they really -- he said they acted like I
19 was nobody.
20 THE COURT: That's a bad experience.
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, it was really bad for
22 him. And so -- but we just had problems.
23 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy may have a couple of
24 more questions. You know, the idea that people who work
25 in positions of authority like that, which seem to be
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1 without any regulation, sometimes are going to step on
2 some toes pretty badly.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
4 THE COURT: The question would be, you know, is
5 that going to be something that is going to be on your
6 mind when you're making a decision?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know. I hope it
8 won't. I will try not to.
9 THE COURT: Did you go down there with him when
10 he went?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, he wouldn't let me go.
12 He went by hisself, but he just -- you know, they just --
13 he told me how they treated him and --
14 THE COURT: Right.
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He thought they over -- you
16 know, they kind of showed their authority or something.
17 THE COURT: Unreasonably unpleasant?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right, right.
19 THE COURT: Well, Mr. Murphy, questions?
20 MR. MURPHY: Well, it sounds to me like it
21 was -- it was truly a bad experience?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was.
23 MR. MURPHY: Okay. It sounds to me too like
24 you're -- you're going to try to put it aside, but you're
25 not really sure you can?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
2 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
3 questions.
4 THE COURT: How long ago was this?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About six or seven years
6 ago.
7 THE COURT: Are you saying that you -- if you
8 were picked as a juror in this case, could you lay that
9 experience aside?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know. It just
11 depends on what comes up, I guess. I don't know. I know
12 I'm not helping you.
13 THE COURT: Well, that's -- you're supposed to
14 tell us the truth. I'm going to ask you to have a seat
15 over in that little swivel chair and let me talk to these
16 folks.
17 (The prospective juror stepped away from the
18 bench.)
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to move to excuse
20 her for cause.
21 THE COURT: I think we're going to have to.
22 MR. BECRAFT: No problem, Judge.
23 (The following proceedings were had in open
24 court.)
25 THE COURT: Ms. Smith, thanks, we're going to
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1 let you be excused. We appreciate it.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
3 THE COURT: Thank you. Now, everybody wants to
4 come see me. Do you need to see me? Come on around.
5 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
6 bench.)
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No sense in putting out
8 dirty laundry in the public.
9 THE COURT: No.
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: When I was a business
11 owner, I ran into some troubles, and my assets, personal
12 and business, were frozen by the IRS, and I don't know if
13 I could be fair and impartial.
14 THE COURT: Okay. How long did that happen?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was about 15 years ago.
16 THE COURT: What kind of business was it?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My wife and I owned a gift
18 shop, and we did manufacturing and we owned it for ten
19 years.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Did -- did -- did you
21 disagree with --
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I didn't disagree, it
23 was just the process was not very pleasant.
24 THE COURT: Okay. Well, if we exclude
25 everybody who has had a bad experience, we would
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1 exclude --
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm just being upfront. He
3 asked the question, and I answered.
4 THE COURT: No, that is fine, and the question
5 is, because yours is fundamentally sort of a different
6 situation, I think, this is -- the assertion is here is
7 tax evasion.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I understand.
9 THE COURT: You didn't have any allegation of
10 tax evasion?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
12 THE COURT: Yours was inability to pay some
13 taxes when they came due?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
15 THE COURT: They apparently came and seized
16 assets in your business?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Froze it.
18 THE COURT: And put you out of business
19 essentially, I guess?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Eventually.
21 THE COURT: And they asserted tax liability,
22 did you agree with their calculation of taxes?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Maybe, yes. Maybe not. To
24 some degree.
25 THE COURT: To some degree?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
2 THE COURT: Did you find them to be unwilling
3 to listen to your point of view during that process or did
4 they listen, they just -- what did you find?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They listened. I felt it
6 was a challenge, okay, to get to the finality of it.
7 THE COURT: Okay. Well, I mean this is --
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't have a problem with
9 being a juror, I don't.
10 THE COURT: Right. You know, I think the main
11 thing is to make disclosure and say this happened to me,
12 it was a really bad experience, but can you follow the law
13 and can you decide the facts fairly and impartially, can
14 you do those two things?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think I can, but, again,
16 I wanted to be upfront.
17 THE COURT: Absolutely. Let me let them ask
18 you some questions.
19 MR. MURPHY: Sir, the only question I have, in
20 deciding this case, can you put the experience you had
21 with the IRS out of your mind? In other words, when you
22 go back there, that goes in a closet, so to speak, and you
23 decide this case based on the facts and the law?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think I can.
25 THE COURT: Anything else?
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1 MR. BECRAFT: This experience, if you're picked
2 as a juror, this experience that you had would not cause
3 you to be against the position of the government?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: This is two-edged, okay.
5 The problem I had in the repayment that I had, okay, I
6 have a feeling on this side and then, again, I look at the
7 young lady over here on this side who has gone through
8 some tax evasion, where I went through some bad years of
9 my life doing repayment on income tax, okay. Being fair
10 to you too.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Yeah.
12 THE COURT: Okay.
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Did I answer your question?
14 MR. BECRAFT: Sure did.
15 THE COURT: Anything else?
16 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: Thank you.
18 (The following proceedings were had in open
19 court.)
20 THE COURT: We're going to call somebody to
21 take seat 12, and we're going to ask some questions and
22 we're going to take a break right after that.
23 THE CLERK: Stephen Sciara.
24 THE COURT: I'm sorry, spell your last name for
25 me.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: S-C-I-A-R-A.
2 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Sciara, what part of the
3 district or city are you from?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Cooper Young.
5 THE COURT: What's your educational background?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a high school and a
7 culinary degree.
8 THE COURT: What's your occupation and who is
9 your employer?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm an executive chef with
11 Mantia's.
12 THE COURT: You want to tell everybody where
13 Mantia's is? This is your chance for an ad?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Poplar and Mendenhall.
15 THE COURT: Okay. That's right, exactly,
16 exactly. Did you all have a lot of business during the
17 storm, or were you out of business?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Actually, we had power and
19 did a lot of business.
20 THE COURT: What is your specialty?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Really all European.
22 THE COURT: Executive chef is in charge of
23 everything and then sometimes you will have people who do
24 pastries, sometimes people do -- I have a relative who
25 does just meat, I don't know how he managed to do that,
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1 but that's what he does.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know, I do really
3 everything. I have a total certified executive chef.
4 THE COURT: All right. Well, are you married?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I have a wife, Sheila.
6 THE COURT: And what is her occupation and what
7 is her employer?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a student at the
9 moment.
10 THE COURT: All right. Children?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One daughter, 22.
12 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
13 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I could. I'm not
15 really into it, but I could do it.
16 THE COURT: You sound like the perfect juror.
17 Okay. Mr. Murphy has got some questions for
18 you, other folks has got some questions for you.
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I thought --
20 THE COURT: Oh, we're going to take our break.
21 Sorry, thanks. We're going to take our afternoon break.
22 Seven things. Don't talk about the case among yourselves.
23 Don't let anybody talk with you about the case. If
24 anybody tries to talk to you about the case, report that
25 immediately to one of our security officers, a member of
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1 my staff or to me. Of course, don't speak to the lawyers
2 or the parties at all. They are not allowed to talk to
3 you. You're not allowed to them. Don't do any research,
4 make any inquiry on your own, and, of course, don't read
5 anything in the newspaper, watch anything on television or
6 listen to anything on the radio about the case and, of
7 course, keep an open mind until you have heard all the
8 proof in the case, final arguments of counsel and final
9 instructions on the law. We're going to take -- we have
10 got a lot of folks, we're going to take a fifteen-minute
11 break, come back, and I think we will get our jury fairly
12 quickly.
13 (Recess taken at 3:33 until 3:50 p.m.)
14 THE COURT: Kind of wait for word that we have
15 got everybody, and then when I don't -- I think we do,
16 though. We're in good shape. Yes, sir, you may proceed.
17 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor. Have any of
18 you, ladies and gentlemen, that have just been called for
19 jury service ever served on a jury before?
20 Yes, sir. Can you tell me us about what kind
21 of jury you served on?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was a criminal case.
23 MR. MURPHY: Okay. I know I have probably been
24 over this too many times already, but do you understand
25 that you will get the law in this case, if you're
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1 selected, from Judge McCalla, and that's the law that
2 you're to use in this case?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
4 MR. MURPHY: I believe this lady right here.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: DUI and murder case.
6 MR. MURPHY: Over in -- you said DUI?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: DUI and murder case.
8 MR. MURPHY: And was that over in state court?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
10 MR. MURPHY: And same question, you understand
11 that the law that you apply in this case will come from
12 Judge McCalla?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
14 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Do any
15 of you, ladies and gentlemen, have any relatives that work
16 for the federal government, any federal agencies, IRS,
17 Department of Agriculture?
18 Yes, sir.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have two uncles -- two
20 uncles in the TBI and cousin in the Olive Branch Police
21 Department and a cousin in the Knoxville Sheriff's
22 Department.
23 MR. MURPHY: Now, the fact that you have got
24 those family members in law enforcement, is that going to
25 influence your ability to decide this case? In other
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1 words, you're not going to vote one way or another way
2 because of how they would react to your vote?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
4 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you. Okay.
5 Two last things. Now, you, ladies and
6 gentlemen, understand that you have got to follow the law
7 that the judge gives you no matter what you think about
8 it? If you think it is stupid, crazy, whatever, you have
9 still got to follow it, is that going to be a problem for
10 anybody?
11 Is there anything that anybody hasn't told us
12 yet that you think it's something that the lawyers and the
13 judge ought to know? Anything that might affect your
14 decision in the case? Okay. Well, thank you, ladies and
15 gentlemen, I'm going to sit down.
16 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court.
17 THE COURT: Certainly.
18 MR. BECRAFT: Ladies and gentlemen, for the new
19 panel members up here, I want to direct my questions at
20 you. For the eight of you, have any of you or any member
21 of your family or close friend been involved either as a
22 plaintiff or a defendant in a civil or a criminal case?
23 Yes, ma'am.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well --
25 MR. BECRAFT: Ms. Stewart.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I try cases all the time.
2 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. What kind of litigation do
3 you do?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Civil, insurance defense.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Have you ever -- how long have
6 you been practicing law?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Twenty-two years. Mostly
8 in state court.
9 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. And that includes trying
10 cases?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
12 MR. BECRAFT: And you know most lawyers never
13 get a chance to sit on a jury.
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I know. I'm well aware of
15 that.
16 MR. BECRAFT: I take it with that in mind that
17 you would probably like to be a juror in this case? You
18 get to go where nobody has gone before.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think it would be very
20 interesting.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Now, being a lawyer, I
22 want to ask this question: If you get back there in that
23 jury room, can you make a promise to me and Judge McCalla
24 and Mr. Murphy, that you won't use your law experience or
25 try to dictate to others about what the law might be that
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1 would be applicable in this case?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would not.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Would you be fair and impartial
4 to both sides?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Absolutely.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Would you base your verdict on
7 what you hear in the way of testimony in this case,
8 documents that you see, all the other evidence?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And the law.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Anybody else got a
11 response to being a party?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You say a lawsuit that we
13 were in?
14 MR. BECRAFT: Yes.
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have got a lawsuit going
16 now.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Oh, you do?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
19 MR. BECRAFT: And you are Mr. Smith. What is
20 the nature of that case?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, this was a wreck my
22 son had in my car, and I'm being sued for the wreck.
23 MR. BECRAFT: All right.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He wasn't at fault, it was
25 a drunk driver who caused the wreck.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Is -- we understand that that is
2 a civil case in which you were a defendant. This is a
3 criminal case. Can you -- can you completely lay aside --
4 I know you're probably not happy with what is going on in
5 reference to your civil litigation, but can you lay that
6 aside and if you're picked as a juror in this case not
7 let, you know, your participation in the judicial system
8 affect your verdict in this case?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think so.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Anybody else got -- Mr. Stage?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My father was on a ladder
12 attached to a building about six feet off the ground, came
13 unbolted and he fell off and ruptured two disks.
14 MR. BECRAFT: He has got a claim, I guess, for
15 workmen's comp?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know what it is.
17 MR. BECRAFT: He has got a personal injury type
18 claim that he's asserting against somebody else?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Can you lay aside your father's
21 civil litigation, and if you're picked as a juror in this
22 case, you know, kind of ignore that and just limit your
23 testimony, limit any decision that you would make as a
24 juror in this case based on the evidence that you hear and
25 the instructions that the court would give regarding the
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1 law of the case?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh, totally different
3 thing.
4 MR. BECRAFT: Anybody else got a response to
5 that? I think Mr. Murphy asked this question, but I want
6 to make abundantly clear, I didn't know if it included all
7 former jurors, but has anybody here been in any kind of
8 case, be it federal court or state court as a juror in
9 either a civil or criminal case or have sat on either a
10 state or federal grand jury? How about have any of you
11 ever been a witness in a case?
12 Ms. Stewart, and you were called as a party to
13 testify?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was called as a witness
15 to testify.
16 MR. BECRAFT: All right. And did you give
17 testimony in court?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did.
19 MR. BECRAFT: Civil case?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Well, one was a
23 criminal contempt.
24 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Following a jury verdict,
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1 and the other one was a former client, I got called by her
2 attorney to testify.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Now, would your
4 experience -- we're going to have witnesses come up here.
5 Can you lay aside any experience that you might have, good
6 or bad, about being a witness in this case and not have it
7 affect your verdict if you're chosen as a juror in this
8 case?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Anybody else that I missed? A
11 moment ago, you know, Judge McCalla, I guess it was a
12 question asked of us, how much are we going to tell you
13 about our defense. Well, I'm going to tell you this:
14 We're probably going to go through this case and maybe
15 there's going to be a lot of stipulations regarding the
16 government's evidence. Hopefully, maybe tomorrow
17 afternoon or maybe sometime Wednesday morning, we will be
18 through with the government's case. After that, Ms.
19 Kuglin is going to get up, and she is going to testify
20 from the stand. I have got a series of questions I would
21 like to ask each of you. Is there anybody here that
22 would, you know, hold something against you based on what
23 you already heard in this courtroom about Ms. Kuglin, if
24 she gets up there and testifies in this case, is there
25 anybody that is going to be prejudiced against her? Is
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1 there anybody that is not going to give her due
2 consideration for her testimony? Well, you have all
3 heard -- you know something about the facts in this case,
4 Judge McCalla read you the indictment. She is a FedEx
5 pilot. She makes good money. You heard what the figures
6 were, and they're not going to be disputed. You know,
7 there is somebody -- somebody from the government is going
8 to come in here and add up the figures, we're going to
9 have somebody from FedEx that is going to come in here and
10 say this is what she made every year, I have no doubt that
11 what the indictment says was her gross for all these years
12 is accurate, you know, anywhere from a hundred and forty
13 grand to maybe a hundred sixty or a hundred and seventy
14 grand a year. Now, those are very large figures, is there
15 anybody here in this case that is going to be, well, gee,
16 you know, I'm not going -- she makes a lot more than I do.
17 Is there anybody here going to be kind of anti or opposed
18 to Ms. Kuglin because she happens to be a FedEx pilot that
19 makes good money that lives down at the end of south Main
20 Street in Waterford condos? Nobody is going to be holding
21 it against her because her station in life is above
22 normal? Okay. Is that -- will all of you promise that
23 you will not hold that against her?
24 Now, the evidence in this case, what she -- I'm
25 going to generally summarize, I'm not going to get down
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1 into the detail, but she is going to give you the reasons
2 why she did what she did. You can kind of look over here,
3 you know, if we get around to opening statements today,
4 you know, I have got a bunch of books stacked up right
5 there, but, you know, she has got her reasons. Now, will
6 all of you promise me that you will listen to her
7 testimony diligently and weigh it like you would any other
8 witness? You will listen to her reasons and give due
9 consideration? Is there anybody that is not going to do
10 any of that?
11 How many of you have ever studied anything
12 regarding tax and specifically income tax? Ms. Stewart.
13 And I guess your answer would be, well, at law school, I
14 had a course, and I think earlier you made some statement
15 that you have given opinions regarding the tax law. So
16 you would know generally something about the issue of
17 income taxation from what any common lawyer would
18 understand, correct?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
20 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Now, with your legal
21 background, can you lay aside -- can you just kind of
22 divorce yourself from everything that you know and come
23 into this case and just listen to the facts and then
24 listen to the instructions that are given by the court?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Now, one of the things I
2 will tell you is that, you know, in defense, Ms. Kuglin is
3 going to give you her beliefs about the law. She has
4 certain beliefs, and what the court is going to do is, you
5 know, when she starts testifying about that, I want to --
6 I want to make it plain and clear right now that that is
7 not going to be an effort on Ms. Kuglin's part to try to
8 tell you what the law is. We acknowledge that at the end
9 of the trial, Judge McCalla is going to tell you what the
10 law is.
11 Now, there is obviously going to be a
12 difference of opinion. There's going to be a difference
13 in the testimony and the instructions that the court
14 gives. Now, can each of you look at this -- the facts in
15 this case, these beliefs about the law and make a
16 conclusion, well, I don't think that she had a criminal
17 intent; can each of you do that? Mr. Sciara?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm not so sure that I can
19 do that, because if I was making that kind of money and
20 didn't understand what I was supposed to be doing with my
21 taxes, I would hire somebody to tell me how to do that.
22 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. So both of you think that
23 because she was a FedEx pilot making big bucks --
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't care what her job
25 is.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: You think that she should have
2 gone out and sought legal counsel?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think you either break
4 the law or you don't. I know how to do my taxes. I mean
5 I'm 23, and I know you pay income taxes, and everybody
6 knows that.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Can you -- what I'm
8 specifically asking for is to at least be --
9 THE COURT: Let me say one thing here.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Sure, Your Honor.
11 THE COURT: You know, and that's a wonderful
12 example of extracting from our own experiences to say what
13 somebody else would do, and often in our lives that's a
14 useful way in which we do things, but in the criminal law,
15 in the criminal law, it really does matter what the person
16 thinks or at least it's supposed to, and you're supposed
17 to give that meaning. So that if -- if we didn't have a
18 tax case, let's say we didn't have a tax case, let's say
19 we had a particular -- different type cases, possession
20 with intent to distribute marijuana, and let's say
21 somebody had a quantity of marijuana, you know, it's
22 illegal to have marijuana, it's illegal, but the charge is
23 possession with the intent to distribute marijuana. Now,
24 you might possess marijuana for more than one reason than
25 distribution. Distribution means to transfer to another
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1 person either with or without financial gain. You might
2 have marijuana for personal use, that's a different
3 section of the code, and that's a different law. So a
4 jury, every time they decide that question, the jury has
5 to decide did that person possess that quantity of drugs
6 with the intent to distribute it.
7 It's -- and so you can have it, right, but not
8 possess it with the intent to distribute it. I'm just
9 trying to make the point that you're going to be asked to
10 decide what was in the defendant's mind, and the
11 government is going to make some arguments about the
12 evidence to try to show what was in the defendant's mind,
13 and the defendant, probably through counsel, is going to
14 make some arguments to show what is in the defendant's
15 mind about the good faith defense on not filing. I'm a
16 little concerned --
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I understand what you're
18 saying, Your Honor, I just -- I did not want to sit here
19 and pretend that I'm not having feelings like that.
20 THE COURT: And there's nothing wrong with
21 that.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was trying to be honest
23 with you, without wasting this court's time or anybody's
24 time that I'm having a little bit of trouble, if we're
25 going to plead, I'm sorry, I didn't understand, because I
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1 don't go for that.
2 THE COURT: I think it's going to be a little
3 different than that. It is probably -- I'm just saying
4 probably because I have some experience. It's probably
5 going to be I believe for these reasons that I didn't have
6 to file an income tax return. Let's say that you were not
7 for profit, they're not arguing that here, and that you
8 really didn't owe any taxes, and you believe you didn't
9 have to file a return, but you didn't file a return, it
10 turned out you were supposed to file a return, you might
11 come in and say I didn't know -- you know, I didn't think
12 I owed any taxes, I didn't think I needed to file a
13 return. So I mean -- and that would be a legitimate
14 argument to make, and you would have to examine the state
15 of mind of that taxpayer to determine whether or not they
16 actually violated the law. Why don't we do this, why
17 don't we -- I was a little concerned about this discussion
18 going too far there. Why don't we -- is it Sciara?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sciara.
20 THE COURT: Say it again, I'm going to write it
21 down phonetically.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Phonetically, it would be
23 S-H-I-R-A, Sciara.
24 THE COURT: By the way, I have eaten there. My
25 kids love the food at the restaurant.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm not trying to cause
2 trouble, I'm just trying to be honest.
3 THE COURT: Let's talk about it at side bar.
4 And the reason I interrupted you is we have to be careful
5 about what we say in front of everybody. If you will come
6 around to side bar, I'm going to ask you a few questions.
7 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
8 bench.)
9 THE COURT: I'm going to let you stand behind
10 the screen, that's sort of the protected place.
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm not trying to cause you
12 any trouble, I just have a hard time believing that
13 anybody that is old enough to have somebody -- I
14 understand she has got an older son, I mean we all know we
15 have to pay taxes. I find this hard to believe.
16 THE COURT: Right.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Regardless of how much she
18 makes or where she works, I'm not being prejudiced that
19 way.
20 THE COURT: I understand you completely, and
21 this is not going to be about somebody -- it's going to be
22 about -- the question is going to be did she have a good
23 faith belief based on her understanding of the law that
24 she didn't have to file a return.
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can't help it, I'm sorry.
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1 THE COURT: I think I have got it there.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I apologize. I'm just
3 telling you --
4 THE COURT: That's okay.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work real hard and I pay
6 all my taxes.
7 THE COURT: I understand.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: This is probably not the
9 one for me.
10 THE COURT: Do you -- do you own part of the
11 business out there?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I get paid by some of the
13 business that we make, yes, sir.
14 THE COURT: Because I think I have seen you.
15 You can see you -- you go up to the counter, you're right
16 behind there?
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
18 THE COURT: Of course, you can see everybody
19 pretty much?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. And I will be the
21 fourth person in a month that has been called out of that
22 little bitty business for jury duty too.
23 THE COURT: That's --
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's really breaking her
25 for me to be gone as well.
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1 THE COURT: I understand. Who owns the
2 business?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Alice Mantia, who was on
4 jury duty all last week.
5 THE COURT: I didn't know that.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We had two other people out
7 the week before and the week before.
8 THE COURT: That may be in and of itself an
9 unfair -- any questions from anybody?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I apologize.
11 THE COURT: That's okay. I'll just -- I will
12 kid you about it when I come in and eat next time. I will
13 let have you a seat over there, I will check with these
14 guys.
15 (The juror stepped away from the bench.)
16 MR. BECRAFT: I think for cause.
17 THE COURT: I was afraid we were going to
18 get --
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I think this was a good
20 idea. I have no objection to a cause strike.
21 THE COURT: Okay. He's a nice guy, and I
22 understand what has happened.
23 (The following proceedings were had in open
24 court.)
25 THE COURT: All right. We're going to let you
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1 be excused. Thank you very much.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sorry for your troubles.
3 THE COURT: Thank you.
4 Mr. Stage, I'm going to let you come around for
5 just a moment.
6 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
7 bench.)
8 THE COURT: Hi, Mr. Stage, how are you doing?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good.
10 THE COURT: It is important that people be
11 concerned about what the defendant was thinking and what
12 she really believed. Now, it has to be -- the belief has
13 to be one that has some basis in -- it can't -- it can't
14 be a fantasy, but it merely has to be a good faith belief.
15 It doesn't have to be right.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The analogy you put
17 together, it would be like me getting pulled over by an
18 officer, saying you know you were speeding and me saying I
19 didn't know what the speed limit is, you're still going to
20 get the speeding ticket.
21 THE COURT: That's true.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I feel like there's a line
23 of the law, you either break it or you don't and --
24 beliefs --
25 THE COURT: Well, in criminal -- remember, this
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1 is a criminal prosecution in a tax case. That doesn't
2 mean -- I'm not going to go on the civil side, that
3 doesn't mean they can't assess you, that doesn't mean that
4 they can't get their money, that doesn't mean that,
5 because that is different. I think that's all correct.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Absolutely.
7 THE COURT: They can seize your house, they can
8 put a tax lien on it, they can do all that stuff. And so
9 it doesn't mean that a person is going to not have to pay,
10 that's not the point. The point is, is it criminal
11 conduct because criminal conduct is different than, you
12 know, than, for example, city taxes, we all know we got to
13 pay them.
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
15 THE COURT: But when people don't pay them,
16 they don't put you in jail for it, they just take your
17 property. And that's -- see, that's fundamentally
18 different than putting you -- than having a potential
19 criminal penalty.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Another thing too, when
21 y'all said what she was being charged with --
22 THE COURT: Sure.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: -- y'all said she provided
24 false W-4s, I mean --
25 THE COURT: The government is going to try to
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1 prove that. These are not W-2s, they're W-4s.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Whatever you have got to
3 turn in by April 15th.
4 THE COURT: Do you see what I'm trying to
5 say --
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The analogy you're trying
7 to put together, I just don't -- I guess because my state
8 of mind isn't -- I see the law as the law. I mean you
9 either break it or you don't.
10 THE COURT: And one of the elements of the law
11 is that you have the necessary -- for a criminal
12 conviction, not for the civil liability on your taxes, but
13 for a criminal conviction, you have a right to make a bad
14 decision, you have a right to make a decision that is just
15 plain ultimately wrong, but if it is in good faith, if you
16 really believe that, you know, based on regulation or a
17 statute or a code section or something else that you
18 really don't have to pay it, then our government doesn't
19 want you to go -- to be criminally penalized for that.
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
21 THE COURT: Now, they're still going to get
22 your money because they're going to assess -- they're
23 going to put a lien on your property or something like
24 that.
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I mean --
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1 THE COURT: That's a different thing.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The story would have been a
3 lot more believable to me if it wasn't for the false
4 documentation.
5 THE COURT: We haven't heard any proof yet.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right. When I heard that,
7 that all of a sudden made me feel kind of fishy.
8 THE COURT: I am going to let y'all ask any
9 questions that you want to ask.
10 MR. MURPHY: I don't have any questions.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Are you of the view that right
12 now, you would not listen or give credence to anything she
13 had to say about justifications for why she did what she
14 did?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: If I felt like you could --
16 it would be a mistake that could have been made, yes, but
17 if it sounded stupid to me, then there is no way you could
18 make that mistake, no.
19 MR. BECRAFT: You think there is no way she
20 could make this mistake here?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I haven't heard the story
22 yet, I got to hear -- I mean why she did it. If she says
23 I forgot --
24 MR. BECRAFT: My question is, are you so
25 prejudiced right now that you can't be neutral?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think I can be neutral.
2 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: But when I -- like I said,
4 the story, if it makes sense to me that I see that, yeah,
5 it could happen, if I put myself in a situation, yeah, I
6 might have been able to make a mistake like that, but
7 then, again, if I look at it and I say, well, there's no
8 way somebody could be that stupid, you know, then I look
9 at it differently and I say no.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Is that the -- what you just
11 said, is that the way you feel right now?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right now, honestly, I'm
13 leaning toward that I think there was no way it could have
14 happened because of the false papers.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's the only reason why,
17 honestly.
18 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Nothing further, Your
19 Honor.
20 MR. MURPHY: Nothing further, Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: We're going to let you have a seat
22 right over there at that green chair.
23 (The juror stepped away from the bench.)
24 MR. BECRAFT: For cause.
25 THE COURT: I don't think we have any choice
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1 here.
2 MR. MURPHY: I don't have any objection, Your
3 Honor.
4 THE COURT: I hope we don't start a trend here.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Side bar fever.
6 (The following proceedings were had in open
7 court.)
8 THE COURT: Mr. Stage, we're going to let you
9 be excused. Thank you.
10 THE CLERK: Pam Stidham. Mozell Smith.
11 THE COURT: Let me get our first juror's last
12 name. Spell your last name for me.
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Stidham, S-T-I-D-H-A-M.
14 THE COURT: Okay. Ms. Stidham, how are you
15 today?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fine.
17 THE COURT: This whole process seems sort of
18 strange?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not really.
20 THE COURT: Not really?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
22 THE COURT: What do you understand our main
23 objective in this process is?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just to listen to the facts
25 and weigh the evidence.
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1 THE COURT: And in this voir dire process,
2 we're just trying to find people who haven't already made
3 up their mind. You think some people have already made up
4 their mind in this case?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The ones who have left
6 probably.
7 THE COURT: Does it seem reasonable to want
8 people that are going to really wait and be patient?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure.
10 THE COURT: Are you that kind of person?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would like to think so.
12 THE COURT: Okay. What do you understand maybe
13 one of the big issues in the case is going to be?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I guess just for us,
15 keeping an open mind and just really listening and hearing
16 out what's being said and maybe learning, you know -- I
17 don't know.
18 THE COURT: Right. And one of the main
19 questions we're going to have to decide is the defendant's
20 state of mind, because I don't think they're going to sit
21 there and tell us that these returns were filed. They're
22 not going to say that. That is not going to be said, is
23 it?
24 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor.
25 THE COURT: In fact, they agree that didn't
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1 happen. They're not going to say, oh, no, I sent it in,
2 they just didn't get it. They're not saying that.
3 They're not saying that I meant to send it in, they're not
4 saying that. They're saying that the defendant had a good
5 faith belief that this was something she did not have to
6 do. And we are going to have to understand whether she
7 really believed that, and there's no mechanism that's
8 better use for this process than a jury because you folks
9 will be able to observe all the evidence that the
10 government puts on because the government is going to try
11 to address this question in its own proof, I'm sure,
12 right, Mr. Murphy? I think some of that is addressed by
13 the government.
14 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I think if -- I can't say
15 for sure, but we have always got rebuttal, so --
16 THE COURT: Right, the government --
17 MR. MURPHY: In the total package, we will.
18 THE COURT: No, I'm not saying the case in
19 chief, maybe I said that. The government will present
20 proof on that. The defense may -- the defense may present
21 proof on that, you're going to have to make up your mind.
22 Are you going to be able to be -- wait until you have
23 heard everything and then make up your mind on this
24 question?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I believe so.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. Now, tell us what part of
2 the district or city you're from.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm from Midtown.
4 THE COURT: And what is your educational level?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Almost completed college.
6 THE COURT: Okay. And what is your occupation
7 and who is your employer?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am mostly a homemaker,
9 but I do some home renovation.
10 THE COURT: Are you married?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
12 THE COURT: Your husband's name and his
13 occupation?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: His name is Greg Stidham,
15 and he is director of ICU at Le Bonheur.
16 THE COURT: Do you know -- do you have
17 children?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He has two sons that are
19 grown.
20 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
21 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I don't.
23 THE COURT: Thank you.
24 Ms. Smith, how are you?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. And you?
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1 THE COURT: I'm fine.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good.
3 THE COURT: You made up your mind about this
4 case or are you still able to be open-minded about it?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I can be open-minded
6 about it, but I have personal reasons why I cannot serve.
7 THE COURT: Well, let's talk about that at side
8 bar.
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
10 THE COURT: Come on up and we will talk about
11 it.
12 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
13 bench.)
14 THE COURT: Yes, sir.
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My mother just got out of
16 the hospital, and she had both of her legs amputated. I'm
17 the caregiver. So I need to be home with her. And she
18 has doctor's appointments this week.
19 THE COURT: Any objection?
20 MR. MURPHY: No, sir.
21 MR. BECRAFT: No.
22 THE COURT: Thanks for letting us know.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
24 (The following proceedings were had in open
25 court.)
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1 THE COURT: I'm going to let Ms. Smith be
2 excused.
3 THE CLERK: Lauren Smith.
4 THE COURT: Mr. Smith, how are you?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fine. I'm fine.
6 THE COURT: All right. Do you know of any
7 reason you cannot serve on this jury and be fair and
8 impartial?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at this time, no, I
10 don't.
11 THE COURT: What part of the district or city
12 are you from?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm in southeast Memphis.
14 THE COURT: What is your educational
15 background?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Some college.
17 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
18 your employer?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: FedEx is my employer and in
20 internet technology.
21 THE COURT: Do you have any problem with the
22 fact that in this case, the defendant is a FedEx pilot?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I don't.
24 THE COURT: You have never met her, I assume?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I haven't.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. Do you -- are you married?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I'm single.
3 THE COURT: How old are you?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Forty-nine.
5 THE COURT: Forty-nine, okay. Do you know of
6 any reason again that you could not sit on this jury and
7 be fair and impartial?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I don't. I don't have
9 any reason.
10 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy?
11 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor. I know
12 these people down in front are sitting here, well, is he
13 going to ask all these questions again. To the two recent
14 jurors seated, have you ever had any problems with the
15 IRS, any tax problems?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
18 MR. MURPHY: The judge is going to instruct you
19 what the law you're to apply in this case is, you got any
20 problem following that?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
22 MR. MURPHY: Even if you don't like the law,
23 you think it is crazy, are you going to go back there and
24 say I'm not going to do this, this is foolish? No matter
25 what you think, are you going to be able to apply the law?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
2 MR. MURPHY: Do you know any of the parties in
3 the courtroom, any of the people in the courtroom?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Shakes head from side to
5 side).
6 MR. MURPHY: Any family members work for the
7 federal government?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
10 MR. MURPHY: Do you have any strong opinions
11 about the income tax laws, for example, do you think that
12 income tax is unconstitutional and the government ought
13 not to be able to impose taxes on people? I'm getting a
14 look.
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I think that
16 government has the right to levy taxes on you, sure
17 enough; however, from a recent experience, I know that the
18 government taxed me at a different rate and I didn't think
19 it was fair. My job gave me a bonus, and if they had just
20 taxed me at the same rate as my normal salary, that would
21 have been fine, but they want to tax me at a higher rate.
22 For what? I mean why? You still have to pay the taxes,
23 but why do it on a bonus.
24 MR. MURPHY: Okay. But, now, that experience,
25 is that -- has that made -- is it going to be difficult
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1 for you to be a fair juror in this case?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it won't make me.
3 MR. MURPHY: In other words, are you going to
4 be able to set all of that said and not say I'm going to
5 equal things up with the IRS?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
7 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Last question and I'm going
8 to sit down. Is there anything that I haven't talked
9 about that y'all need to tell us about, anything you think
10 we might want to know? Okay. Thank you.
11 MR. BECRAFT: We're to our new jurors here,
12 let's bring you up to speed. Do either one of you have
13 any friends, family members that work for the federal or
14 state government in any capacity?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
16 MR. BECRAFT: Have either of you worked for any
17 type of government before?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was in the Navy for eight
20 years.
21 MR. BECRAFT: That's good enough. That's your
22 only experience?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Well, I worked for
24 the Defense Depot for awhile.
25 MR. BECRAFT: Have either of you ever been a
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1 witness in a case?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
4 MR. BECRAFT: Gone into court and testified?
5 Been a juror, civil, criminal, grand jury?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Shakes head from side to
7 side).
8 MR. BECRAFT: Been a party to a case?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Shakes head from side to
10 side).
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Shakes head from side to
12 side).
13 MR. BECRAFT: I think that brings them all up
14 to speed, let's get back to the other questions. Y'all
15 seen some fireworks in this courtroom. Do you see some
16 people that have got emotional opinions about taxes? Will
17 each of you listen to what Vernie Kuglin has to say as the
18 reasons why she did what she did? The court told you a
19 minute ago that that is called a good faith defense, and I
20 will go a little bit further without getting into the
21 details, but, you know, Vernie Kuglin studied this big,
22 big book known as the Internal Revenue Code. She read it.
23 Now, she reaches a conclusion about that. She is going to
24 get up there and tell you what she read and studied. Now,
25 my question to you is, if you listen to her testimony and
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1 reach the conclusion that she really believed this, right
2 or wrong, will you give her testimony credence? Will you
3 consider her testimony in making the decision that you do
4 in this particular case? Anybody that can't do that?
5 That's all I'm asking for.
6 Nothing further, Your Honor.
7 THE COURT: All right. If you'll fill out your
8 strike sheets and pass them up, or at least fold one over
9 and pass it up.
10 (Strike sheets were handed to the judge.)
11 THE COURT: You may come to side bar.
12 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
13 bench.)
14 THE COURT: All right. The government struck
15 one person, Lauren Smith, in seat 13. The defense struck
16 four. Defense struck Jurors Phillip Smith, Rose
17 Saulsbury, Freida Straughter and Ms. Stewart, the
18 attorney. So any objections?
19 MR. MURPHY: No, sir.
20 MR. BECRAFT: No, sir, Your Honor.
21 (The following proceedings were had in open
22 court.)
23 THE COURT: All right. I hope you're not
24 disappointed if you're excused. We're going to let Mr.
25 Smith go, Lauren Smith, thanks very much. We're going to
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1 let Ms. Stewart go. Thank you for being here, Ms.
2 Stewart. And, Ms. Saulsberry, we're going to let you be
3 excused and, Ms. Straughter, we're going to let you be
4 excused and Mr. Phillip Smith. So we have part of the
5 rest of the panel. I'm going to ask Mr. Shaneyfelt to go
6 to seat number eight because actually that's the first --
7 that's the next regular juror seat, and then Ms. Stidham
8 will go to seat number nine and Mr. Inderbitzen to seat
9 number ten. Those are actually permanent seats. We're
10 going to call five more jurors to take seats -- the last
11 seat, seat seven and then the remaining 11, 12, 13, 14.
12 THE CLERK: Kim Stout. Sharon Smith. Joseph
13 Schingle. Cynthia Street. George Stewart.
14 THE COURT: Ms. Stout, how are you doing?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm doing fine. Thank you.
16 THE COURT: All right. What part of the city
17 or the district do you live in?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I live in Cordova.
19 THE COURT: What is your educational
20 background?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: College graduate.
22 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
23 your employer?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm at home right now.
25 THE COURT: Okay. Are you married?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
2 THE COURT: Your husband's name and his
3 occupation?
4 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: His name is Eric Stout, and
5 he's an electrician.
6 THE COURT: Do you have children?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
8 THE COURT: And tell me --
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two. I'm sorry, three of
10 my own and two step.
11 THE COURT: Okay. All right. It must be a new
12 one?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is. He's five.
14 THE COURT: Fairly new?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fairly new.
16 THE COURT: All right. Do you know of any
17 reason that you could not serve on this jury and be fair
18 and impartial?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do not.
20 THE COURT: You've heard the discussion about
21 people's ability to wait and decide about a person's state
22 of mind, that is what they believed and didn't believe.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
24 THE COURT: And some people have found that
25 difficult to do. Can you do that?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can.
2 THE COURT: If you would hand that back to Mr.
3 George Stewart who is right behind you. Mr. Stewart, how
4 are you today?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm doing pretty good. And
6 you, sir?
7 THE COURT: I'm fine.
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Great.
9 THE COURT: What part of the district or city
10 are you from?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I live in north Memphis.
12 THE COURT: What is your educational
13 background?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor of
15 science degree from the University of Memphis and a
16 medical technology degree from the University of
17 Tennessee.
18 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
19 your employer?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a medical technologist
21 with Baptist Memorial Health Care.
22 THE COURT: And are you married?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I'm not.
24 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
25 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I can be fair and
2 impartial.
3 THE COURT: All right. I've asked everybody --
4 lately, we're asking everybody that question to make sure
5 they haven't already made up their mind, it kind of
6 sounded like some folks had. Are you able to -- the key
7 question here is going to be -- probably, I never can be
8 sure, I will tell you at the end of the case what some of
9 those questions are, but it may be what Ms. Kuglin
10 thought, I mean what was in her mind, whether she had a
11 good faith belief about certain things, and that's just
12 going to obviously wait until the end of the case and then
13 you'll have to make a decision on that. But can you wait
14 on that and not jump to a conclusion in this case?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I can.
16 THE COURT: Okay. I'm going to ask you to hand
17 that to Ms. Street. Ms. Street, how are you?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm tired, sleepy and
19 stressed.
20 THE COURT: What do you think about me? At
21 least, you were out there resting, right? Not so bad.
22 I'm going to let you stand up so we can hear you okay.
23 You feeling all right, just tired?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just tired and sleepy, I
25 been working 12 to 16 hours a day to keep your lights on.
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1 THE COURT: You work for MLG&W?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
3 THE COURT: We will let you be excused if you
4 want to be.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Please.
6 THE COURT: Come on around and talk to us. If
7 you have been working that much, we may need to let you
8 go.
9 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
10 bench.)
11 THE COURT: I know you're tired, so I thought
12 we better just come around here. What is your job at
13 MLG&W?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a material handler. I
15 have to make sure all the crews get what they need when
16 they need it.
17 THE COURT: Okay. And I know they have been
18 working very long hours.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, 20. Twelve straight
20 days, I think this is the 13th day.
21 THE COURT: It's the 13th day because my lights
22 were out until last night. My lights were out until last
23 night.
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Mine didn't come on until
25 Saturday.
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1 THE COURT: They have been working really long
2 hours, I would be hesitant to -- it might be hard for you
3 to concentrate and stay awake to do this. We appreciate
4 it, we're going to let you be excused.
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
6 (The following proceedings were had in open
7 court.)
8 THE COURT: We're going to let Ms. Street be
9 excused. They have been working long, long hours.
10 All right. We're going to call a name to take
11 seat 13.
12 THE CLERK: Cynthia Sanders.
13 THE COURT: Hi, Ms. Sanders. How are you
14 doing?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm fine.
16 THE COURT: I'm going to ask you a couple of
17 questions. If you will stand, I'm going to ask you what
18 you part of the district or city are you from.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kirby and Mt. Moriah.
20 THE COURT: And what is your educational
21 background?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: College.
23 THE COURT: What's your occupation and who is
24 your employer?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Car sales, Homer Skelton
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1 Ford, Olive Branch.
2 THE COURT: Are you a sales person?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
4 THE COURT: Okay. Is it cheaper in Mississippi
5 to buy a car?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Taxes are.
7 THE COURT: Taxes are less, okay. All right.
8 Well, are you married?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Separated.
10 THE COURT: What's his name and what didn't he
11 do -- what does he do?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, there are many names,
13 but his name is Booker Sanders, Jr., and he's a manager at
14 Firestone.
15 THE COURT: Do you have children?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two.
17 THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that you
18 could not serve on this jury and be fair and impartial?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, none whatsoever.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
21 And is it Mr. Schingle?
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
23 THE COURT: How are you today?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fine, thank you.
25 THE COURT: It has been awfully long, and I
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1 apologize.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It has.
3 THE COURT: It sort of depends on the answers
4 we get, you know. What part --
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Cordova.
6 THE COURT: What?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Cordova.
8 THE COURT: What is your educational
9 background?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two years of college.
11 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
12 your employer?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Retired.
14 THE COURT: What did you retire from?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: New York Life Insurance
16 Company.
17 THE COURT: How long have you been retired?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Eleven years.
19 THE COURT: How old are you?
20 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Seventy-three.
21 THE COURT: You know you're eligible to be
22 excused?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, yes.
24 THE COURT: Do you mind serving?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I love it.
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1 THE COURT: We would love to have you, I just
2 wanted to make sure you knew. Are you married?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
4 THE COURT: Your wife's name?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Verne Joan.
6 THE COURT: And her occupation?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Me.
8 THE COURT: Trying to keep you around. All
9 right. A lot of discussion here about people being able
10 to listen to the law, the theories in the case and not
11 just make up their mind based on the charges. And in our
12 system -- in a criminal law system, not civil side, we're
13 not talking about civil side, civil liability is not the
14 question here, there has to be the requisite state of mind
15 in order for someone to be subjected to criminal
16 liability, you know, totally different from the civil side
17 as you're aware of from your business in the past, I'm
18 sure. Can you do that in this case or are you starting
19 out with a couple of black marks already on the slate for
20 the defendant?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Clean slate.
22 THE COURT: All right. Well, then you don't
23 know of anything that would preclude you from being fair
24 and impartial in this case?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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1 THE COURT: If you will hand that to Ms. Sharon
2 Smith. Ms. Sharon Smith?
3 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
4 THE COURT: I have got so many Smiths, I have
5 to check and make sure I have got the right one.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's right.
7 THE COURT: Okay. What part of the district or
8 city are you from?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Munford.
10 THE COURT: What is your educational
11 background?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have two years of
13 college.
14 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
15 your employer?
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work for Lucite
17 International in customer service.
18 THE COURT: Are you married?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. My husband's name is
20 Tim. He is a mechanic at Lehman Roberts. And I have
21 three children.
22 THE COURT: Three children. Okay. Do you know
23 of any reason that you could not sit on this jury and be
24 fair and impartial?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I would like to
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1 approach the bench.
2 THE COURT: Sure, come on around.
3 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
4 bench.)
5 THE COURT: Yes, sir.
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have family medical
7 issues. My dad is 76 years old, lives in Crump,
8 Tennessee. He has diabetes, and three months ago, he had
9 surgery and in the hospital to help the diabetes, it was
10 not successful, and they are taking off his foot today or
11 tomorrow. I'm not at the doctor's office today to find
12 out which day it is, but I don't think my focus can be up
13 here.
14 THE COURT: Sure.
15 MR. MURPHY: Judge, no objection.
16 THE COURT: Thanks for letting us know, and I'm
17 sorry we didn't get you let you go earlier.
18 (The following proceedings were had in open
19 court.)
20 THE COURT: We're going to let Ms. Smith be
21 excused, and call another name to take her place. I don't
22 usually do this, but I know how to do it. Neil Simpson.
23 Mr. Simpson, how are you doing today?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Very good, thank you.
25 THE COURT: Okay. This has taken a lot longer
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1 than it sometimes takes. I suppose it's because of the
2 nature of the inquiry.
3 What part of the district or city do you live
4 in?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: East Memphis.
6 THE COURT: What is your educational
7 background?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One year of college.
9 THE COURT: What is your occupation and who is
10 your employer?
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Retired, but -- retired
12 twice. MLGW, Methodist Hospital, back at MLGW.
13 THE COURT: You're not back there now?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: As a contract, under
15 contract. I have been working 14, 15 hours also.
16 THE COURT: You doing all right or do you --
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm doing fine.
18 THE COURT: You're doing fine?
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Are you married?
21 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
22 THE COURT: Your wife's name and her
23 occupation?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Marcie, home keeper, three
25 children.
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1 THE COURT: Three children?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thirteen grandchildren.
3 THE COURT: Thirteen grandchildren, all right.
4 That's great. That's wonderful.
5 Do you know of any reason that you could not
6 sit on this jury and be fair and impartial?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No reason.
8 THE COURT: Okay. We had that fundamental
9 question about some folks saying they already basically
10 made up their mind, are you able to put yourself in that
11 category of people who are able to listen?
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir, have to hear all
13 the facts.
14 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Murphy. Thanks
15 very much.
16 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
17 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor. This is
18 directed to the new jurors. Have any of y'all had any
19 problems with the IRS? Audits or anything like that?
20 THE COURT: We're going to have to give you the
21 mic, I'm sorry. Mrs. Parker has to write it all down.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had an audit years ago,
23 but it doesn't affect my ability.
24 MR. MURPHY: How was your experience with the
25 audit, good, bad?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, it was -- I owed the
2 money, so I had to pay it.
3 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Do you think they treated
4 you fairly?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, it was fair.
6 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, sir.
7 Now, do y'all understand that you have got to
8 follow the law as the judge gives to it you? He's going
9 to tell you what the law is, that you have got to apply
10 it. Does anybody have any problem with that? Do y'all
11 have any problem with the fact that people are required to
12 pay income taxes, file tax returns, is that a problem?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
14 MR. MURPHY: See anything wrong with that?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
16 MR. MURPHY: All right. Is there anything you
17 haven't told us that you think we ought to know about?
18 You know -- I know a lot of times, we'll ask people
19 questions, and then later on somebody will raise their
20 hand, you know, and I just remembered, I had, you know, an
21 uncle in law enforcement that was, you know, years ago,
22 anything like that? Any family, friends work for IRS,
23 government, law enforcement?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a sister-in-law that
25 works --
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1 THE COURT: The mic.
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My sister-in-law works for
3 the IRS.
4 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Where does -- does she work
5 at the service center?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: On -- I believe it's over
7 of Holmes Road, I'm not sure.
8 MR. MURPHY: Okay. On Getwell?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Maybe that's it.
10 MR. MURPHY: Okay. The fact that you're a
11 juror in this case, have you -- if you have to vote one
12 way or the other, is it going to influence you because you
13 have a relative that works for IRS?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, definitely not.
15 MR. MURPHY: Okay. That's going to do it for
16 me, ladies and gentlemen.
17 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have one.
18 MR. MURPHY: Oh, yes, sir.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a cousin that is
20 retired from the IRS, but it wouldn't have any effect on
21 any of this.
22 MR. MURPHY: Presumably a cousin you like?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, yes.
24 MR. MURPHY: Okay. But you're not going to be
25 embarrassed if you vote one way or another?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
2 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Thank you, sir.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Let me pose these questions to
4 our new people up here. Do any of you have any friends,
5 close family members, yourselves ever worked for the state
6 or federal government in any way, shape, manner or form?
7 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just this state.
8 MR. BECRAFT: No, any state?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My son is a judge in
10 Colorado.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: County judge.
13 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Anybody else?
14 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have two brothers that
15 are police officers.
16 MR. BECRAFT: Where would they be police
17 officers?
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One of my brothers is a
19 police officer for the City of Memphis, and I have a
20 brother that is a security officer for the airport.
21 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Do you see them on a
22 frequent occasion?
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just ever so often.
24 MR. BECRAFT: All right. If we had this trial
25 last through this weekend, as you finally walked out of
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1 this courthouse, if you were picked as a juror, if you
2 didn't see them at any time in between, would your
3 relationship with them, would it be such that if you sat
4 in this case and made a certain decision and saw them this
5 weekend that you might have some problems with them?
6 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. So you can lay aside your
8 family connections with law enforcement and fairly and
9 impartially decide this case?
10 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I can.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Ms. Stout, did you say --
12 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I used to work for the
13 city.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am no longer employed
16 with the city. I used to work as a firefighter paramedic.
17 MR. BECRAFT: All right.
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
19 MR. BECRAFT: How about, have any of you ever
20 been a witness in a case, sat on a jury, state or federal?
21 Okay. Let's quickly go through them here, the three of
22 you.
23 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was on a jury, civil case
24 with one of the local TV stations.
25 MR. BECRAFT: Civil case, some years ago?
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It has been about four
2 years ago.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Can you lay aside anything you
4 saw or learned then and come into this case and just
5 listen to the facts and the evidence here and take the
6 judge's instructions on the law and decide it without
7 being influenced by your past jury service?
8 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure.
9 MR. BECRAFT: I'm going to ask the same
10 question of you, sir.
11 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, civil case,
12 automobile accident couple of three years ago.
13 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. And that wouldn't have any
14 influence on what you do here?
15 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all. Mine was in
16 federal court in '68. It was tax evasion --
17 MR. BECRAFT: It wouldn't have --
18 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Tax evasion case, it
19 wouldn't have anything to do with this.
20 THE COURT: I'm not certain I heard that
21 answer. Are you saying that you sat --
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I sat on a case, it was a
23 tax evasion case in '68.
24 MR. BECRAFT: '68, okay. Well, was that here?
25 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: And y'all reached a verdict?
2 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Now, here you are a second time
4 around sitting in a -- possibly sitting in another tax
5 evasion case. Will you promise if you're selected as a
6 juror that anything you remember about that case will not
7 have an effect upon your decision if you're sitting as a
8 juror here?
9 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Is there anything -- you
11 know, here it is 5:00 o'clock, and I know y'all want to
12 get out of here, is there anything that anybody wants to
13 bring to our attention right now? We have asked a whole
14 bunch of questions, and I don't want to have to repeat
15 them. Just volunteer something, is there something you
16 need to tell us that we ought to know regarding your
17 ability to sit as jurors?
18 Yes, sir.
19 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My son is an employee at
20 FedEx.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
22 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No problem.
23 MR. BECRAFT: You have never met her?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
25 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
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1 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You asked about income tax,
2 I was a volunteer for our doing personal income taxes.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Did you ever study the income tax
4 laws?
5 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just what they give -- it's
6 very basic for low and moderate income families.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Your knowledge about filling out
8 tax returns, you can lay that aside, and just for this
9 case, you can listen to Judge McCalla, you know, listen to
10 the facts and give -- take into consideration the law that
11 he instructs you on and then make a decision in the jury
12 room without being influenced by your prior experience?
13 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ours was very simple,
14 yes.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Anything else? One final area I
16 want to cover. You've heard me describe Vernie Kuglin.
17 You know her station in life. She has got these beliefs
18 about taxes. She studied the law. Now, can I get a
19 promise out of y'all that y'all are going to listen to the
20 evidence fairly and not be prejudiced against her and not
21 hold anything against her and treat her like you would
22 anybody else, any other witness and treat her like you
23 would like to be treated as well?
24 PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
25 MR. BECRAFT: Nothing further, Your Honor.
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1 THE COURT: You can fill out or at least turn
2 in a strike sheet and pass that up.
3 (Strike sheets were handed to the Judge.)
4 THE COURT: All right. Let me see counsel at
5 side bar.
6 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
7 bench.)
8 THE COURT: Okay. There were no strikes, so
9 what I'm going to do, though, is reseat them in the order
10 in which they're called. So our two alternates will be
11 Ms. Sanders and Mr. Stewart, and Ms. Stout will actually
12 move around to seat 11. That's the way we seat them
13 because they're always in the sequence in which they're
14 called, and then I think we will just stop and come back
15 tomorrow. But we will come back at 9:00. I want -- and
16 y'all can come on in about five till because we have
17 cancelled everything else, and we have got an 8:30, but
18 that will be over. It will be back there anyway.
19 (The following proceedings were had in open
20 court.)
21 THE COURT: Well, you're all accepted as
22 jurors, but I have to reseat you a little bit because we
23 always seat you in the order in which you were called or
24 seated for jury selection. It's not actually -- it's --
25 in other words, we always put -- the person in seat seven
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1 is the next juror. She is actually going to go to seat
2 11, and Mr. Stewart is going to actually stay where he is
3 and Ms. Sanders is going to move down. So it's a little
4 confusing. Ms. Sanders, we're going to evict you from
5 your seat, and we're going to move you down to seat number
6 seven, which is where Ms. Stout is sitting, and we're
7 going to have our two gentlemen in the middle, Mr. Simpson
8 and Mr. Schingle move over one seat, that is that way, and
9 Ms. Stout is our juror in seat number 11. Sounds sort of
10 mysterious, it is real important that we always do it the
11 same way, because it depends on who is going to be the
12 actual members of the jury and who may be the alternates.
13 This case is long enough -- I don't want anybody to get
14 confused, there's no way to know if the alternates will
15 end up serving, but our alternates in this case are Ms.
16 Sanders, she is our first alternate, and our second
17 alternate is Mr. Stewart, so you're the two alternates.
18 And then everybody else is expected to be the jury in the
19 case. You're the actual twelve jurors. It's not unusual
20 for us to have something -- hopefully, nothing happens,
21 but if somebody gets sick, this gives us the ability to
22 replace -- that juror has a personal emergency, then that
23 gives us an ability to keep going.
24 Now, that means that those of you who came and
25 didn't get to serve, this does qualify as your jury
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1 service, and we do appreciate you being here, so I'm going
2 to let all of you go at this time, and thanks again very
3 much. Thank you.
4 Now, what we will have you do is come back
5 tomorrow at 8:30. You will come back to the jury room,
6 which is this room immediately to my left and to your
7 right. Mr. Tuggle is going to show you to the jury room
8 in just a moment. Just take a look before you leave -- so
9 you will know what is in there. There are two restrooms,
10 coffee pot and that sort of thing. There will be a snack
11 tomorrow, I hope. They're supposed to be here about 8:30,
12 and then we will start in here very close to 9:00 o'clock.
13 We will start with a set of brief instructions, fairly
14 brief instructions so you will get some idea again of what
15 the law is, and then we will go to opening statements, and
16 we will proceed with the first witness. So that's going
17 to be our sequence. Remember the places you're sitting in
18 now because when you come back tomorrow, you will probably
19 line up and come in in that order. Look at who is in
20 front of you. Of course, if you're -- the person who will
21 be in front will probably be Ms. Sanders tomorrow on the
22 first row. And then just remember the sequence that
23 everybody is in.
24 Now, seven things. Do not discuss the case
25 with anybody at all. That includes among yourselves.
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1 That means when you go home this evening, don't talk about
2 the case. You know, oh, I'm on this interesting IRS case,
3 whatever you would say. Do not say that. Tell them, you
4 know, I'm on a criminal case in federal district court, I
5 can't talk about it now, but I'll be able to tell you
6 about it when the case is over. And the case will be
7 over, you know, Thursday or Friday and I'll tell you about
8 it when it is over. As to anybody who might approach you
9 to talk about the case, of course, report that promptly to
10 one of our court security officers, a member of my staff
11 or directly to me. It is inappropriate for anybody to
12 talk with you about it, and we'll take the appropriate
13 steps. The fourth thing is that you'll want to avoid the
14 lawyers and the parties in the case and, of course, don't
15 speak to them at all. Now, in that regard always be sure
16 and wear your juror tag where it's visible. They're
17 probably going to remember you, but that's a real easy
18 thing for them to see. And that helps us all, all the
19 people in the building know that you're a juror. The
20 fifth thing is that you do know it is a 26 U. S. Code
21 Section 7201 case, do not go home and get on your computer
22 and look up information about that. It is frankly pretty
23 easy nowadays, and we just remind you not to do any
24 investigation. Don't make any inquiry. Don't try to
25 research it in any way. The next thing is, of course, if
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1 there is anything in the newspaper about it, probably
2 won't be, I mean, after all, but if there happened to be,
3 do not read it to check it out. And, of course, if
4 there's anything on television or radio, but, of course,
5 probably more central, if there's something about tax
6 evasion cases or something about things like that, while
7 you wouldn't be researching that, it would be an
8 inappropriate thing to do too. Don't do anything that
9 would provide you with information that might influence
10 you. And the seventh thing is keep an open mind until you
11 have heard all the evidence in the case, the final
12 arguments of counsel, the final instructions on the law,
13 gone to the jury room, deliberated among yourselves and
14 then make up your mind, and that's going to be about four
15 days from now.
16 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to ask you to
17 be excused. Mr. Tuggle is going to show you out that way,
18 and we will see you in -- be back there at 8:30 tomorrow
19 morning, we will start in here at 9:00 o'clock.
20 (Jury out at 5:00 p.m.)
21 THE COURT: Gentlemen, I think that's --
22 anything else we need to take up at this time?
23 MR. MURPHY: Not from the government, Your
24 Honor.
25 THE COURT: From the defense? I want to make
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1 sure that I have got down the -- the defense position
2 exactly, because you want a statement of your theory. And
3 Mr. Murphy, have you got a point on that, at all?
4 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I think they're entitled to
5 state their theory.
6 THE COURT: Oh, they are, I agree, I mean I
7 didn't know if you had --
8 MR. MURPHY: No, I don't have an objection to
9 it.
10 THE COURT: Let me make sure I have got the
11 exact theory statement --
12 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I haven't articulated
13 a, quote, theory of defense. The only thing I really need
14 is, you know, legal points regarding my jury instructions,
15 and that has already been submitted. You know, there
16 might be one or two legal points that I want to bring up,
17 you know, as things develop, but I don't necessarily
18 need -- and I think it is something I can easily take up
19 in opening and closing stating our position.
20 THE COURT: Well, I know you asked to be able
21 to state your theory, and some people have me also insert
22 the theory in the instructions, and if you want me to do
23 that, you just have -- and you don't have to --
24 MR. BECRAFT: Yeah.
25 THE COURT: -- but if you actually want it
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1 typed up and written and put in there, then somebody get
2 me a typed version and make sure it is reasonably short.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
4 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
5 THE CLERK: All rise.
6 (Court adjourned at 5:02 p.m.)
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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
WESTERN DIVISION
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
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Plaintiff, )
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VS. ) NO. 03-20111-Ml
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VERNICE KUGLIN, )
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Defendant. )
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TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE HONORABLE JON PHIPPS MCCALLA, JUDGE
AUGUST 5, 2003
VOLUME II
BRENDA PARKER
OFFICIAL REPORTER
SUITE 942 FEDERAL BUILDING
167 NORTH MAIN STREET
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 38103
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A P P E A R A N C E S
Appearing on behalf of the Plaintiff:
TERRELL L. HARRIS, ESQ.
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
SUITE 800 FEDERAL BUILDING
167 NORTH MAIN STREET
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 38103
By: JOSEPH MURPHY, ESQ.
Appearing on behalf of the Defendant:
LOWELL H. BECRAFT, JR.
209 LINCOLN STREET
HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA 35801
ROBERT G. BERNHOFT, ESQ.
207 EAST BUFFALO STREET
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 53202
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W I T N E S S I N D E X
WITNESS PAGE LINE
MARY ANN OSBORNE
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 267 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 282 19
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 312 17
KIMBERLY GILLUM
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 316 6
ELIZABETH EDWARDS
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 319 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 330 10
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 332 2
KARLENE NUBY
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 334 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 336 6
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DANIEL JOSEPH HAUGHTON
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 339 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 341 13
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 343 14
ISABELLE BAKER
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 345 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 348 5
LEPORLEON PRUITT
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 351 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 358 20
ALEXANDER RIVERA
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 364 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 367 1
JEANNE GRIFFIS
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 369 6
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CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 371 1
DAVID SCOBEY
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 373 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 374 24
DEBORAH WHITE
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 382 6
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 399 9
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 411 7
VERNICE KUGLIN
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 419 6
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E X H I B I T I N D E X
EXHIBIT NUMBER PAGE LINE
Exhibit Number 1 Notes to Taxpayer - 1996 271 3
Exhibit Number 2 Cert. of Lack of Record 271 22
Exhibit Number 3 1996 IRPTRO 273 16
Exhibit Number 4 1997 IRPTRO 274 10
Exhibit Number 5 1998 IRPTRO 274 21
Exhibit Number 6 Information Returns 275 7
Exhibit Number 7 2000 IRPTRO 275 18
Exhibit Number 8 2001 IRPTRO 276 3
Exhibit Number 9 1992 Certificate 277 4
Exhibit Number 10 1993 Certificate 279 1
Exhibit Number 11 1994 Certificate 280 16
Exhibit Number 12 1995 Certificate 282 3
Exhibit Number 13 IMF Transcript 289 5
Exhibit Number 13 Application 317 12
Exhibit Number 14 W-2s 321 2
Exhibit Number 15 W-4s 325 24
Exhibit Number 16 FedEx Direct Deposit Entry 8 17
Exhibit Number 17 1995 Form W-4 331 21
Exhibit Number 18 W-2 Form 335 22
Exhibit Number 19 Mortgage Interest Summary 41 8
Exhibit Number 20 Mortgage Interest Payments 7 24
Exhibit Number 21 Statement of Accounts 353 10
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Exhibit Number 22 Application for Account 355 8
Exhibit Number 23 Mortgage Documents 365 23
Exhibit Number 24 Loan Documents 370 20
Exhibit Number 25 Chart 384 25
Exhibit Number 26 Chart 385 2
Exhibit Number 27 Paper Copy of Charts 385 4
Exhibit Number A Document 6209 308 19
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TUESDAY MORNING & AFTERNOON
AUGUST 5, 2003
The trial of this case resumed on this date,
Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 9:05 o'clock a.m., when and
where evidence was introduced and proceedings were had as
follows:
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THE COURT: All right. We're ready, we'll
bring the jury in.
COURT SECURITY OFFICER: Yes, Your Honor.
(Jury in at 9:05 a.m.)
THE COURT: You can be seated. And, of course,
thank you very much. I'm sorry we're running a little
late. They came just as I was leaving to do some storm
work, so I had to stay a little bit, but we'll try to stay
on schedule.
Ladies and gentlemen, I told you that we would
swear you in this morning, so I'm going to have you stand,
all raise your right hand, Mrs. Saba is going to
administer the juror oath at this time.
THE CLERK: Do you and each of you solemnly
swear that you will well and truly try the issues herein
joined and render a true verdict according to the law, so
help you God?
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1 THE JURY: I do.
2 THE CLERK: You may be seated.
3 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: You are now the jury
4 in the case, and I'm going to take a few minutes to tell
5 you about your duties as jurors and give you some
6 instructions to give you some guidance as to how to listen
7 to the case. Now, at the end of the case, I will give you
8 more detailed instructions, and it is those instructions
9 that you must rely upon in reaching your decision in the
10 case.
11 This is a criminal case brought by the United
12 States government. The charges against the defendant are
13 contained in the indictment. And we went over the
14 indictment at the very beginning of the case. I'm going
15 to read you Count 1 of the indictment because it is
16 somewhat typical -- actually, I'm going to read you -- let
17 me make sure. I'll read you Count 2. They're all pretty
18 much alike, there's a little bit of difference, and they
19 do relate to different time periods. Count 2 says that
20 during the calendar year 1997, the defendant, Vernice B.
21 Kuglin, had and received taxable income in the sum of
22 approximately $147,999.60, that well knowing and believing
23 the foregoing facts, the defendant on or about April 15,
24 1998, in the Western District of Tennessee, did willfully
25 attempt to evade and defeat the said income tax due and
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1 owing to her by the United States of America for said
2 calendar year by failing to make an income tax return on
3 or before April 15, 1998, as required by law, to any
4 proper officer of the Internal Revenue Service by failing
5 to pay the Internal Revenue Service said income tax, and
6 by filing a false Form W-4 in 1997, in violation of Title
7 26, United States Code, Section 7201. And you'll remember
8 that Count 1 is similar to a number of the counts. There
9 are six counts all together. Count 2 is similar to most
10 of the counts. Count 1 is just a little different, and a
11 couple of the counts are different too in they make no
12 reference to the Form W-4.
13 Now, the indictment -- an indictment is just
14 for the purpose of presenting information, it's not for
15 the purpose of evidence at all.
16 In this case, the indictment is, as usual, just
17 a description of the charge made by the government against
18 the defendant and, again, it's not evidence of anything.
19 The defendant has pled not guilty to the charge
20 contained -- each charge contained in the indictment and
21 is presumed innocent unless and until the government
22 proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is
23 guilty. It will be your duty to decide from the evidence
24 to be presented whether the defendant is guilty or not
25 guilty of the crime charged. You will decide from the
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1 evidence what the facts are, and your verdict will be
2 based on those facts. You are the sole judges of the
3 facts. You must then apply those facts to the law which I
4 shall give you, and in that way reach your verdict.
5 You must follow the law whether you agree with
6 it or not, and you should not take anything that I may say
7 or do during the trial as indicating what I think of the
8 evidence or what I think your verdict should be. The law
9 in this case is contained in 26 United States Code,
10 Section 7201, and that code section reads in relevant part
11 as follows:
12 Any person who willfully attempts in any manner
13 to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the
14 payment thereof shall be guilty of a crime.
15 The indictment in this case charges that the
16 defendant in six separate counts violated from the period
17 1996 to 2001, Section 7201 of Title 26 of the United
18 States Code.
19 The tax system or the system of tax collection
20 in the United States relies upon the honesty of taxpayers.
21 The government needs taxpayers to report timely,
22 completely and honestly all taxes they owe so that it can
23 collect the taxes due. Congress, therefore, has made it a
24 criminal offense for a taxpayer to evade taxes, to file a
25 false return or to file no return under certain
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1 circumstances.
2 In order for the crime of income tax evasion to
3 be proved, the government must establish beyond a
4 reasonable doubt each of the following elements:
5 First, that the defendant owed substantially
6 more federal income tax for the calendar year of which
7 they're charged in that count in the indictment than was
8 declared due on the income tax return, or if there was no
9 return filed, that it should have been contained in a
10 return filed.
11 Second, that the defendant committed an
12 affirmative act constituting tax evasion described in the
13 indictment and that the defendant acted willfully.
14 Of course, the first thing the government
15 always has to prove in a tax evasion case is that the
16 defendant owed substantial federal income tax for the year
17 that's charged. The government doesn't have to prove the
18 exact amount the defendant owed, nor does the government
19 have to prove all of the tax charged in the indictment or
20 if a particular sum charged in the indictment is the
21 precise sum. It's not an accounting question, it's a
22 question of whether or not there was a substantial act.
23 So, of course, one of the things the government generally
24 must prove beyond a reasonable doubt is that the defendant
25 received substantial income in the year in which the taxes
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1 were not paid and that tax was due on that income in the
2 year or the following year which the income was received.
3 In order to prove that the defendant received
4 substantial income which was not included in the return,
5 the government has to introduce evidence of income and the
6 receipt of that income by the defendant.
7 If you find based on all the evidence that the
8 government established beyond a reasonable doubt the
9 defendant did receive substantial income during the tax
10 year in question that was not reported in which nothing
11 was paid, then the first element of the offense can be
12 established. But, of course, if the government fails to
13 do that, then on that particular year, the element would
14 not be established.
15 The second element that the government must
16 prove as a general proposition is that the defendant --
17 and they must prove it beyond a reasonable doubt --
18 committed an affirmative act constituting tax evasion.
19 The Internal Revenue Code makes it a crime to attempt in
20 any manner to evade or defeat any income tax imposed by
21 the law. There are different ways in which taxes may be
22 evaded, and in this case, the defendant -- the government
23 simply charges the defendant received a substantial
24 income, and then, according to the government, willfully
25 chose not to pay those taxes, knowing that those taxes
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1 were due. The government must, of course, establish this
2 type of affirmative element for each of the six counts in
3 the case.
4 Now, the third thing the government has to show
5 is that the defendant acted knowingly and willfully, and
6 it's in this context that we usually end up with a
7 discussion about whether someone had a good faith belief
8 that they didn't have to pay the taxes. Now, first, they
9 have to show that it was knowing and willfully. The
10 government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the
11 defendant knew that she owed substantial federal income
12 tax for the particular year that is charged that was
13 declared on any return or returns filed should have been
14 declared on a return. Whether or not the defendant had
15 this knowledge is a question of fact that will have to be
16 determined by you on the basis of all the evidence.
17 Of course, an act can be done knowingly only if
18 it is done purposely and deliberately and not because of
19 mistake, accident, negligence or other innocent reason.
20 Now, I'll give you more detailed instructions
21 on all of this at the end of the case, but I anticipate
22 that the defendant will take the position that she has a
23 good faith belief that she did not have to pay or file the
24 income tax return. She didn't have to pay the taxes in
25 the respective year.
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1 A defendant does not act willfully, we just
2 talked about the willful element, if she believed in good
3 faith that her acts complied with the law. Therefore, if
4 the defendant actually believed that she was doing what
5 was in accordance with the tax statutes, she cannot be
6 said to have the criminal intent to willfully evade taxes.
7 Thus, if you find, after you have heard all the evidence
8 in the case, that the defendant honestly believed that she
9 owed no taxes, even if that belief was unreasonable or
10 irrational, then you should find her not guilty. However,
11 of course, you will be allowed to consider whether the
12 defendant's belief was actually reasonable as a factor in
13 deciding whether she held that belief in good faith.
14 It should also be pointed out that neither the
15 defendant's disagreement with the law nor her own
16 belief -- nor her own belief that the law is
17 unconstitutional, if she had that belief, no matter how
18 earnestly that belief is held, constitutes a defense of
19 good faith. It is, of course, the duty of all citizens to
20 obey the law regardless of whether or not they agree with
21 it. So -- and you'll get a copy of the -- of all of the
22 instructions on the elements, the concept of willfulness,
23 the concept of a good faith belief before you're required
24 or asked to deliberate, and it will be a little more
25 detailed than the one I have given you at this time.
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1 Well, that's a summary of the basic principles
2 of law that you're going to have to be dealing with in
3 this case.
4 Let me tell you a couple of other things. You
5 are going to decide, obviously, and have to decide the
6 fundamental question of who you believe in this case and
7 who you do not believe, or perhaps more clearly, you're
8 going to have to decide the fundamental question of
9 whether you believe the defendant, whether you believe
10 other proof that would suggest that you do not believe the
11 defendant had a good faith belief as to her not having to
12 pay taxes under the statutes that govern the payment of
13 taxes. So you're going to have to decide who you believe
14 or who you don't believe in this case. How do you do
15 that? There are a couple of things you try to do,
16 basically, usually. First of all, you observe the
17 demeanor of each witness as that witness testifies,
18 determine whether or not you believe what the witness has
19 to say in this case, determine whether or not the witness
20 has previously said something different than what the
21 witness is saying who is before you in this case,
22 determine whether or not the testimony of the witness is
23 different from the testimony of other witnesses that you
24 do believe and, of course, use your common sense in
25 evaluating whether or not the statement, the information
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1 provided by each witness does appear to you to be a
2 truthful statement on their part. Use the normal
3 observation skills that you have in your everyday walks of
4 life. Obviously, you're going to make a determination on
5 credibility in this case, and I will give you more
6 detailed instructions again on that at the end of the
7 case, but it is a common sense type of approach in which
8 you carefully observe the witnesses as they testify.
9 Let's talk about a couple of other things.
10 Note taking. Well, you have all got note pads, I think.
11 You're allowed to take notes in the case, and I suggest
12 that you may want to keep a list of witnesses just so you
13 can remember everybody who testified. You may want to
14 make a couple of notes about what they say or do not say.
15 But let me say this about notes: Don't let note taking
16 interfere with your observing witnesses. Don't get so
17 busy taking notes that you're not paying attention to the
18 witness as each witness gives his or her testimony,
19 because, of course, it's your observations about their
20 testimony that is going to be far more important. Your
21 notes are not evidence in the case. They're just there to
22 remind you individually of the testimony that you have
23 heard and the observations you made as the witness was
24 testifying. The notes aren't to be shared with others or
25 used to say, well, it's in my notes, it must be true. We
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1 all know that that's not necessarily accurate, people can
2 make erroneous notations or you might not observe
3 something the same way that someone else does. Those
4 notes are for your personal use, your personal use alone,
5 they're not in the evidence. And if you choose not to
6 take notes or you don't have notes on a particular point,
7 you're to rely on your own recollection and the collective
8 recollection of everybody else on the jury in determining
9 what occurred here in the courtroom and not on a set of
10 notes. So don't be overly influenced by somebody's note
11 or the fact that somebody has some notes, they shouldn't
12 really talk about what are in their notes, but the fact
13 that they have some notes in making a decision. It's your
14 own observation, the observation of all of you, that is
15 what counts in this case.
16 At the end of the case, again, I'll give you
17 detailed instructions. You will have a written set of
18 instructions. After I give you those instructions, which
19 will be there to guide you, and it's those instructions
20 that you should rely on in deciding the case.
21 Mr. Murphy, are you ready to proceed with
22 opening statement on behalf of the United States?
23 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor.
24 THE COURT: You may proceed.
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1 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Your Honor.
2 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
3 THE JURY: Good morning.
4 MR. MURPHY: This is the part of the trial we
5 call opening statements. Before I even say anything, I
6 want to congratulate you, ladies and gentlemen. I know
7 you're going to say why is Mr. Murphy congratulating us
8 for sitting as a juror on a tax case. It's not the most
9 exciting thing in the world.
10 Well, you, ladies and gentlemen, are now
11 judges, you're judges of the facts in the case. Now, you
12 don't sit up on the bench, you're in the jury box, and you
13 don't wear a robe, but you, ladies and gentlemen, listen
14 to the proof and make a decision based on the law that the
15 judge gives you. And I always start out by mentioning
16 that to people because it's very important that you
17 listen. Even a case that it's a little more exciting in
18 terms of what we're talking about can be difficult to
19 listen to. So it is important that you listen, because
20 the proof is what you're going to have to make your
21 decision about. And I know a lot of times when you get
22 back after lunch late in the day, it's difficult to
23 listen, and I know everybody will, but it's important that
24 you do.
25 As the judge told you, this is an income tax
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1 evasion case. The indictment charges six counts of income
2 tax evasion. One for 1996, one for 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000
3 and 2001. In Counts 2 through 6, what's charged is the
4 evasion was aided or -- not aided, but was involved by
5 filing of false W-4 forms and failure to file a return,
6 failure to pay taxes. In Count 1, it's failure to pay
7 taxes and failure to file a return.
8 Now, what's the proof in this case going to
9 show? I anticipate, ladies and gentlemen, that the proof
10 in this case is going to show that the defendant was
11 employed by Federal Express as a pilot, and that she filed
12 income tax returns with the exception, I believe the proof
13 is going to be, one year from 1965 until 1992. She didn't
14 file any returns from '93 through 2001. The conduct
15 that -- the years involved in this case, however, are '96
16 through 2001.
17 The proof is going to be that she received
18 substantial income in each of those years and that she had
19 taxable income. Now, taxable income, the proof is going
20 to be, is that income that remains after you deduct
21 deductions, personal exemptions, that sort of thing and
22 that that is what you're actually taxed on.
23 I submit, ladies and gentlemen, and expect the
24 proof is going to be that in 1996, the defendant had wages
25 of $183,408, that she had taxable income that year after
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1 making deductions for mortgage interest and those sort of
2 things of $162,883, and that the tax due was approximately
3 $47,000.
4 As to 1997, I anticipate that the proof is
5 going to be that the defendant had wages totaling $172,674
6 from Federal Express, that she had taxable income that
7 year of $147,999 and the tax due and owing was
8 approximately $42,000.
9 As to 1998, I anticipate the proof is going to
10 be that defendant received approximately a $168,000 in
11 wages and disability insurance compensation, that she had
12 total taxable income of approximately $137,000, and that
13 the tax due and owing for that year was $36,507.
14 As to 1999, I anticipate the proof is going to
15 that the defendant had $172,428 in wages from FedEx, that
16 her taxable income after making allowances for deductions
17 and exemptions -- okay, I forgot to turn that on this
18 morning. Hopefully, I won't blow everybody out of their
19 seats. Is that too loud for y'all?
20 Regarding tax year, 2000, I submit, ladies and
21 gentlemen, that the proof is going to be that the
22 defendant had wages from Federal Express in the amount of
23 $191,000 approximately, taxable income that year of
24 approximately $164,000, and tax due and owing of
25 approximately $47,000.
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1 As to 2001, I submit the proof is going to be
2 that the defendant had wage income of $190,000
3 approximately in 2001, taxable income of $161,000, in
4 2001, tax due and owing of approximately $45,000.
5 Now, the proof is also going to show a pattern
6 with the defendant's W-4 filings. You will see W-4s, but
7 the proof is going to be that that is where you claim your
8 withholding exemptions. The defendant in 1988 submitted a
9 statement to Federal Express in which she claimed six
10 withholding exemptions. I anticipate the proof is going
11 to be in 1990, she submitted a W-4 to Federal Express
12 where she had ten exemptions. Then somewhere along 1996,
13 1995, Federal Express stopped withholding income tax from
14 the defendant's wages, and that around that time, she
15 submitted the W-4 and -- where she claimed exemption.
16 Now, the proof is going to be that on W-4
17 forms, there's a line that says I claim exemption from
18 withholding for the year, and I certify that I meet both
19 the following conditions for exemption. Last year, I had
20 the right to a refund of all federal income tax withheld
21 because I had no tax liability, and this year I expect a
22 refund of all federal income tax withheld because I have
23 no tax liability. If you meet both conditions, write
24 exempt here, and there's a box for exempt.
25 Then if you go down, there's a signature line
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1 that says, under penalties of perjury, I certify that I am
2 entitled to the number of withholding allowances on this
3 certificate or I'm allowed to claim exempt status.
4 Employee signature of Ms. Kuglin, signed her name and
5 dated it in every case. And in every case except one, she
6 added the language reserving all of my constitutional
7 rights in this matter, to the perjury declaration where
8 you swear under the penalty of perjury that that is a
9 truthful statement.
10 The proof is also going to show again that once
11 that was submitted, Federal Express withheld no income
12 tax. Further, there is going to be proof that no tax
13 returns were filed by the defendant during this period,
14 and that based on the agent's investigation, except for
15 the one year -- one year where a sum of 13 --
16 approximately $1300 was withheld from the Kemper Insurance
17 checks, there was no other withholding and no tax payment.
18 And further, the proof is going to be that during this
19 period of time, Ms. Kuglin's check was deposited at the
20 Federal Express Credit Union, and from '96 till -- at
21 least there will be records from '96 to 2000, I anticipate
22 the proof is going to be that she would paid be by
23 electronic funds transfer, and most days that there was a
24 payday, Ms. Kuglin or someone would go down to the bank
25 and withdraw large sums of cash that same day as the
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1 paycheck was deposited. There will also be proof that
2 because of some tax problems that Ms. Kuglin had that
3 there were levies made against her and garnishments and
4 that she was sent notice of these. That is in sum what I
5 anticipate the proof is going to be, and the reason we do
6 this is because we're going to have several different
7 witnesses. This isn't like television where you have one
8 witness who can get up there and give you all the proof.
9 I anticipate the government will have 14, 15 witnesses.
10 Most of it will go pretty quick, but this way we do this
11 so you can understand there will be people coming that
12 will give proof about the mortgage interest, the agent
13 will go through the tax computation, FedEx will come in
14 and there will be proof about the wages paid.
15 Ladies and gentlemen, I am just about done. I
16 just want to urge you to listen to all the proof in this
17 case, because, remember, you're the judges, and it is
18 going to be up to you to decide whether the defendant did
19 evade taxes and did so knowingly and willfully. Thank
20 you, ladies and gentlemen.
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22
23
24
25
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1 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court -- I kind
2 of hate these microphones, anybody having any problem with
3 me speaking too loud or are you having any problem hearing
4 me?
5 THE COURT: Have you got your mic on?
6 MR. BECRAFT: I thought I turned it on, Judge.
7 I was looking for the red light to come on.
8 THE COURT: If you don't have it on, it's not
9 through our system, and that way you can't be heard in the
10 clerk's office. And we need -- you know, that's --
11 MR. BECRAFT: Somehow, the little -- how is
12 that?
13 May it please the court, ladies and gentlemen
14 of the jury, before I give you at this stage what lawyers
15 call opening statement -- and in opening statement what we
16 like to do is kind of give you a road map of what this
17 case looks like. You know, I want to first express before
18 I get rolling this morning, something that everybody on
19 this side of the courtroom believes. I think Judge
20 McCalla will agree with what I say, I know Mr. Murphy will
21 agree with what I say Ms. Kuglin and Mr. Bernhoft. You
22 know, yesterday when y'all came, we spent a whole day
23 picking the jury. A lot of you saw some of these other
24 people get up, oh, you know, I got some problem, some of
25 those were real problems. But as to each and every one of
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1 you, I think you appreciated and understood the civic duty
2 that was being imposed upon you and the need here in
3 America, particularly in reference to criminal cases, for
4 us to call in our friends and neighbors, people from the
5 community and come in and decide a case that can't be
6 decided without your intervention.
7 Now, let me just tell you, ladies and
8 gentlemen, on this side of the room, we really appreciate
9 what you have done.
10 You know, as Judge McCalla has told you, this
11 is a criminal case, and I've -- you know, while he was
12 giving y'all instructions this morning, what I did is I
13 kind of sat down and listened to what he had to say, and I
14 have written out, y'all can fault me for my handwriting,
15 but let me kind of summarize, if I can, what this case is
16 about. Here in America, you know, we have an indictment
17 that comes out, it's a piece of paper or several pieces of
18 paper, and what they do is they make a formal accusation
19 of the commission of a crime. Here in this case, what we
20 have is we have got an indictment, and I want to
21 familiarize yourselves with what we're dealing with. As
22 you have been told before, Count 1 alleges that tax
23 evasion was committed in '96, Count 2 is in '97, Count 3
24 is in '98, Count 4 is in '99, Count 5 is in 2000 and Count
25 6 is in 2001. Tax evasion. What is that we're going to
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1 have to look at here? What are the elements, as Judge
2 McCalla told you about earlier this morning? Well, you
3 know, lawyers take a look at statutes, and we sit there
4 and we kind of -- we divide them into what we call
5 elements. Elements are facts. What does the government
6 have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime
7 that's charge in the indictment was committed. In this
8 situation, as Judge McCalla told you a minute ago, I'm
9 kind of summarizing the fact or element that must be
10 proven was taxes were owed.
11 MR. MURPHY: Judge, can we approach for a
12 second?
13 THE COURT: You may.
14 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
15 bench.)
16 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm not trying to waylay
17 Mr. Becraft, but this is opening, not closing. And
18 talking about elements at this point --
19 MR. BECRAFT: I want to just talk about intent,
20 Your Honor, that is where I was headed, real quickly move
21 through some of the things about what is important in this
22 case, make admissions, tell the jury what this case is
23 about, which is all criminal intent. That's where I'm
24 headed.
25 THE COURT: As a general proposition, the
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1 purpose of opening statement is to give a road map as to
2 what proof is anticipated -- what proof is anticipated by
3 the respective party, and that does not mean usually
4 having a detailed discussion of the elements, that sort of
5 thing.
6 MR. BECRAFT: I understand.
7 THE COURT: It is more of a road map.
8 MR. BECRAFT: I will move on, Your Honor.
9 (The following proceedings were had in open
10 court.)
11 MR. BECRAFT: What I want to point out to you
12 is what's important for this case, what y'all are going to
13 have to decide is primarily the criminal intent that Judge
14 McCalla told you what's in issue in this case,
15 willfulness. That's that criminal intent I was telling
16 you about when we were picking the jury. The government
17 is going to come in in this case and offer some proof and
18 you're going to find out most of it is probably not going
19 to be contested by the defense. The defense does not
20 contest -- Vernie Kuglin does not contest the fact that
21 she worked for FedEx and she made good money. She's not
22 going to contest all these other things that the
23 government is going to be talking about. These witnesses,
24 they're going to come up here and testify about how much
25 was made or how much interest was paid on mortgages and
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1 everything else. Ladies and gentlemen, that's not the
2 issue in this case, at least from the defense. What is in
3 question is that criminal state of mind. Did Vernie
4 Kuglin commit the crime of tax evasion with a criminal
5 intent? Did she act willfully?
6 Now, let me tell you about -- I think you need
7 to know something about who Vernie Kuglin is in order for
8 you to make an assessment of her intent. I've never ask
9 her her date of birth, and I'm not going to, but her
10 parents were missionaries, and they were missionaries to
11 Africa at some time in the past, and Vernie Kuglin was
12 born in Africa, but her parents were from Kansas. And
13 after a certain number of years in the field, that family
14 came back, and Vernie Kuglin enrolled in school in Kansas,
15 and she ultimately, let's say, in the early '60s went to
16 college. The proof is going to be that she had enough
17 high school credits to move without getting a degree
18 straight into college. She went a couple of years to
19 college in Kansas. Right after that, you know, she had,
20 during the course of her teenage years and early college
21 years, she was doing things like waiting tables, being a
22 waitress, but by the mid 60s, '65, 1966, she worked her
23 way down to Dallas where she became a flight attendant for
24 Braniff Airlines. And after a couple of years of being a
25 flight attendant for Braniff Airlines, she met a man out
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1 in California, married him, and as a result of have union,
2 they had a son by the name of Christopher. Unfortunately,
3 that marriage didn't work out and the parties were
4 divorced. So in the early '70s, you know Vernie Kuglin
5 has been a flight attendant, she had been married, she is
6 now divorced, she has got to support a young baby boy, and
7 she does such things as become a librarian, she becomes a
8 book binder, she does other odds and ends, and I think one
9 of her jobs was she worked for Welfare, but ultimately
10 while doing these jobs and raising her young son, she
11 determined that she had an interest in flying. So in the
12 '70s, '75, '76, '77, '78, right around there, Vernie
13 Kuglin decided I want to become a pilot, and I think she
14 was living in Dallas at the time and took her first flying
15 lesson. After that, she became a flight instructor. By
16 some time around 1980 or 1981, there was a company, I
17 think, in Lafayette, Louisiana by the name of Royal
18 Airlines, and she became a corporate pilot for that
19 company. By 1985, she did what most people wanted to do,
20 hey, if you're a pilot and you want to get a job with one
21 of the big commercial airlines. Well, ultimately, she did
22 get a job in 1985 with FedEx. She moved to Memphis from,
23 I believe, Dallas or Louisiana, and she has lived here
24 ever since. By 1985, you know, if you take the trolly all
25 the way down to Beale Street, there is Waterford condos
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1 down there. In 1989, she bought that apartment down
2 there, or that condominium. What she does and what she
3 has done for most of her life is a FedEx pilot or at least
4 since 1985. We all know what FedEx does, those pilots get
5 to the airport about -- you know, sometime in the evening,
6 and while we're in bed, those FedEx pilots are flying all
7 over the country delivering their cargo. And after they
8 go from, say, like from Memphis to Dallas or San Francisco
9 or Portland, then they come back. You know, it is early
10 morning when they get ready to go to bed, and they go to
11 bed, and then they get up and they do the same thing.
12 These are night people, and that's what Vernie Kuglin was
13 doing, and she was paid good money to be a pilot.
14 As Mr. Murphy mentioned a minute ago, since the
15 early '60S probably, I don't know the exact date, perhaps
16 the government can tell us, all the way up through the
17 '90s Vernie Kuglin was like anybody else, she filed those
18 federal income tax returns. But what changed her mind?
19 What caused her to think otherwise? Let me kind of give
20 you a road map of what her beliefs were. I have kind of
21 summarized them in certain categories. If you can kind of
22 look at this, I want to kind -- if you're like me, you
23 know I want to kind of categorize these types of belief.
24 The first, she has a belief that, well, the federal income
25 tax is an excise tax, and based upon her reading of
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1 materials, an excise tax can't be imposed upon the right
2 to earn a living. That's point number one. Point number
3 two, she has been through this Internal Revenue Code, and
4 she thinks that those that are required to file an income
5 tax returns are parties that are statutorily made liable
6 for a income tax, and she has been unable to find such a
7 provision in the code. And finally her third major belief
8 is that, you know, let's call it the Paperwork Reduction
9 Act argument. The government has got to assign OMB
10 control numbers to certain documents and regulations, and
11 from her investigation of tax laws and other items, she
12 has reached the conclusion that, hey, this Form 1040
13 doesn't match up with what I see here. Why do I see Form
14 2555 entitled foreign earned income as what appears to her
15 to be the form that should be required to be filed? All
16 of these are oddities, but they are important for Vernie
17 Kuglin.
18 Now, how did she arrive at these beliefs? Let
19 me kind of summarize, if I can. In 1992, Vernie Kuglin is
20 probably somebody that's apolitical. One evening, as she
21 is kind of vacuuming around her condominium, she has got
22 the TV on, and there she is listening to C-Span and there
23 is a party convention, a political party convention on,
24 the Libertarian party, and she didn't know anything it,
25 and she sat down to watch this Libertarian party
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1 convention, these people debating, and she said, you know,
2 I'm kind of interested in this. As a result of seeing
3 what she saw on TV, she contacted a man that lives here in
4 Memphis, Don Winfield, and as a result of them talking,
5 ultimately Vernie Kuglin is becoming somebody who is
6 extremely interested in the Libertarian party. She and
7 Mr. Winfield, they kind of go to little meetings around
8 the state to fellow Libertarians. She goes to meetings in
9 other cities across America, and as she is getting into
10 this study and comprehension and understanding of the
11 message of the Libertarian party, she starts encountering
12 and running across tax information. People in the
13 Libertarian party are saying, well, you know -- they're
14 talking about taxes. Well, as a result of the talking
15 about taxes, you know, Vernie hears such things as people
16 saying, well, you know, it's voluntary. And Vernie checks
17 that out, and, you know, she sees actual government
18 documents, our tax system is based upon voluntary
19 compliance. That creates, you know, a view of the tax
20 laws that she has never seen before. She always thought
21 it was mandatory. Now, the government is saying our
22 remember system is based on voluntary compliance. Well,
23 once she starts seeing these documents, she makes a
24 commitment I want to learn something about the federal
25 income tax laws. One of the first things that she did is
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1 somehow some way, she will tell us, but this is a cassette
2 series, constitutional convention by Walter Cronkyte, the
3 ratification debates, the Bill of Rights, the text to the
4 United States Constitution, she starts listening to stuff
5 like this. She starts reading the Declaration of
6 Independence. She reads, you know, publications that are
7 put out, Freedom Daily. She reads books that she has
8 never read before, things that explain politics, economics
9 and taxation. And this process of learning about the law
10 for her for the first time is very revealing. Ultimately,
11 by some time in '92 or '93, she is beginning to engage in
12 a real detailed study of the law, what she perceives to be
13 the law. Now, I need to tell you before I get into the
14 details of this, I want to -- I made a promise to Judge
15 McCalla earlier, and I make a promise to you now, you
16 know, what is going to be important in this case is Ms.
17 Kuglin's beliefs and whether or not you believe that they
18 were her firmly held beliefs. Now, her beliefs, you know,
19 when she gets up there on the stand, I want to you
20 remember this one fact. When she says, well, I think this
21 is the law or I believe that this is what the law is, I
22 want to tell you right now, and I'm going to bring this up
23 with one of the first series of questions I'm going to be
24 asking her, our position is that's what she says up there
25 are her beliefs about the law. Don't confuse it with what
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1 the court is going to tell you in the way of jury
2 instructions at the end of this case. But Ms. Kuglin has
3 certain beliefs about the law. She studied the United
4 States Constitution, she found out that the Constitution
5 authorizes Congress to impose two types of taxes. She did
6 kind of a study of the history of income taxation at the
7 federal level. She learned that in 1895, you know, she
8 read some documents that she thought were decisions of the
9 United States Supreme Court, a case called the Pollock
10 case that held bad income tax unconstitutional. She read
11 and studied stuff about the ratification of the 16th
12 Amendment, the federal income tax amendment. She read a
13 case called the Brushaber case and reached the conclusion
14 that in a constitutional sense, the federal income tax is
15 an excise tax, point number one as I put up here. Now,
16 she didn't stop there. What is important for Vernie
17 Kuglin is in her mind she envisioned, well, the federal
18 income tax is a thing known as an excise tax. So what is
19 an excise tax? And so she started reading cases, and one
20 of the things that was real important for Vernie Kuglin
21 was a case that she thought was the Tennessee -- the
22 Supreme Court case of 1960 called the Jack Cole against
23 McFarland, and she read that case, and it says an excise
24 tax can't be used to tax the right to earn a living. And
25 she concludes that that is a very fundamentally important
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1 case, so fundamentally important that that is the reason
2 why there's no state income tax here in Tennessee. So it
3 is logical from her viewpoint to draw a conclusion based
4 upon what she understands are court cases, and she reaches
5 the conclusion, well, hey, I can see how people are
6 talking about you may not owe the federal income tax. But
7 she doesn't stop there, she moves on and she does some
8 other studying, what I call legal belief number two up
9 there on the screen. What she did is, as you can see, not
10 that we're going to be offering this into evidence, you
11 can see that by July of 1994, Vernie Kuglin had ordered a
12 copy of the Internal Revenue Code. Big thick book. She
13 reads some documents that come from the IRS that identify
14 the various laws that require you to file a return. So
15 she said I'm going to study those laws, and she sits down
16 and does it, and, you know, when she reads what she
17 believes to be Section 6001 of the Internal Revenue Code
18 and 6011 of the Internal Revenue Code, she says that the
19 law for filing returns, it doesn't say something like
20 every American, it says something to the effect that every
21 person liable, without telling you who it is. So as a
22 result of looking at the law, Vernie Kuglin starts looking
23 around and trying to find am I liable for the federal
24 income tax, and to make a long story short, she ultimately
25 goes through the income tax sections of that big thick
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1 book over there and reaches the conclusion, well, I only
2 found one statute that makes anyone liable for the federal
3 income tax, that's the only agent for nonresident aliens
4 and foreign corporations, and I'm not a nonresident alien
5 and I'm not a foreign corporation, and I'm not making
6 payments to nonresident aliens and foreign corporations.
7 So she reaches the conclusion, hey, I don't have to file
8 income tax returns. But then perhaps one of the final
9 things that kind of, you know, kind of solidified her
10 beliefs was this thing about the Paperwork Reduction Act.
11 She will explain what her beliefs are about this
12 particular law. You will hear OMB control numbers on
13 forms. There are OMB control numbers on regulations. She
14 knows that under this particular law, a tax regulation has
15 to have an OMB control number. She knows or she believes
16 that Section one of the Internal Revenue Code is the
17 section that imposes the tax. She knows that the
18 regulation that corresponds to that is Treasury Regulation
19 1.1-1. Now, Vernie Kuglin took a publication that comes
20 from the government and merely looked up to see what is
21 the form that applies to the tax imposed section of the
22 Internal Revenue Code. And to her amazement, she came up
23 with this Form 2555 entitled foreign earned income.
24 Now, ladies and gentlemen, you can't say that
25 Vernie Kuglin is a legal scholar, but you can say that she
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1 is an ordinary American, and you can say that an ordinary
2 American has a right to sit down and read what she
3 understands to be the law, to read cases and draw
4 conclusions, and so as a result of her studies, what
5 Vernie Kuglin did is that for '93, '94, '95 or
6 thereabouts, you know, she is working at FedEx and she is
7 having withholding from her wages, but by the fall of '95,
8 she is committed to her position, she really believes that
9 she is not required to file returns, she really believes
10 that she is not subjected to withholding. She has a
11 meeting some time in 1995, one of the people that she met
12 here in Memphis had a little problem with the IRS, and
13 they go down to a meeting, and at this meeting, you know,
14 where Vernie Kuglin gets to see the IRS inter -- dealing
15 with somebody who is claimed to owe taxes, she starts
16 asking questions. And she learns that the IRS agents
17 don't want to answer the questions, and so she is directed
18 to study the law, go to the law library or hire a lawyer.
19 So what does Vernie Kuglin do as a result of what the IRS
20 told her? Goes to the library, runs over there to Memphis
21 State, does studying. She runs into an organization that
22 has lawyers on board. Ultimately, she gets those lawyers
23 to do some things for her. She did what the IRS said do
24 as a result of this meeting. But then by the fall of
25 1995, Vernie Kuglin -- I think she said she wrote a lot of
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1 this while she was flying, but she writes some letters to
2 the IRS, October of '95, November of '95. She has got a
3 series of questions that she poses to the IRS, one of
4 which is what law makes me liable for the federal income
5 tax and, therefore, required to file an income tax return.
6 She sends it to the IRS. Did she get a response? No. A
7 month later, she sends another letter to the IRS. Does
8 she get a response? No. Those are two letters that we're
9 going to offer into evidence here. Now, having not
10 received a reply from the government, Vernie Kuglin
11 decided that there's something to hide, and she started
12 implementing her beliefs, which are not something that's
13 drawn out of the thin air, but virtually everything that
14 she believes comes from the law or the government itself.
15 So by December 29th, December the 30th of 1995, Vernie
16 Kuglin gets around to submitting to FedEx this document
17 right here, which is the first exempt Form W-4 with a
18 bunch of attachments. Thereafter -- you know, the
19 government is going to bring in somebody from FedEx, hey,
20 think Vernie Kuglin submitted this W-4 exempt. You bet.
21 Vernie Kuglin is a woman that has firmly held beliefs.
22 Those firmly held beliefs caused her to ask questions of
23 the IRS. Ultimately, she hired lawyers to ask these
24 questions of the IRS. You know what, ladies and
25 gentlemen? This whole problem could have been resolved if
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1 somebody in the government had answered those questions.
2 So this case, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you what
3 it boils down to. I think that this is the redeeming
4 thing of this case. Tax evasion is not committed by
5 reading the law and relying on the government. This,
6 ladies and gentlemen, is acting in good faith. That's
7 what the evidence will show in this case. And that,
8 ladies and gentlemen, is the reason why Vernie Kuglin is
9 not guilty. That concludes my remarks. I hope that we
10 can finish this case by sometime tomorrow afternoon.
11 Thank you.
12 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy, you may call your first
13 witness.
14 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor.
15 THE COURT: If you would stop right there and
16 raise your right hand at the podium. I'm going to let you
17 get over to the microphone, thanks very much. Do you
18 swear that the testimony you are about to give in this
19 case will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
20 the truth, so help you God?
21 THE WITNESS: I do.
22 THE COURT: You may have a seat up here.
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1 MARY ANN OSBORNE,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please, ma'am?
8 A. Mary Ann Osborne.
9 Q. And who do you work for, Ms. Osborne?
10 A. I work for Internal Revenue Service.
11 Q. And what do you for the Internal Revenue Service?
12 A. My job title is court witness coordinator.
13 Q. Okay. Are you also involved with -- you have got
14 knowledge of how the IRS keeps custody of documents?
15 A. Yes, sir, I represent the custodian of records, I do
16 prepare, research and receive these documents and do prepare
17 them for court.
18 Q. Okay.
19 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if I could approach.
20 THE COURT: You may.
21 MR. MURPHY: We have already shown this to
22 defense counsel.
23 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court, for this
24 witness, there's not going to be any objection to the
25 exhibits that Mr. Murphy offers.
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1 Q. Ma'am, I passed you a document, would you tell me what
2 that document is?
3 A. This is a certified copy of the individual master file
4 transcript, what we call a complete.
5 Q. Now, what information goes in an individual master file
6 transcript?
7 A. The individual master file transcript is a record of
8 all actions, transactions or anything taken or done to the
9 taxpayer's account.
10 Q. Okay. And that particular individual master file that
11 I passed to you, who was that for?
12 A. Vernice Kuglin.
13 Q. Would you spell the first and last name?
14 A. First name V-E-R-N-I-C-E. Last name K-U-G-L-I-N.
15 Q. And what was the social security number for that
16 taxpayer?
17 A. The social security number is 514-44-1724.
18 Q. All right. Now, can you examine that document and tell
19 us what years, if any, Ms. Kuglin has filed income taxes,
20 income tax returns, rather?
21 A. The first income tax return filed was in 1965. Let me
22 back up just a little bit. The first document we have of
23 something being done to this account was in 1965.
24 Q. Okay.
25 A. 1966, 1967.
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1 Q. Now, '66 and '67, tax returns were filed?
2 A. I'm assuming they were. Looking at this document, I
3 cannot tell you for sure.
4 Q. Okay. Keep going.
5 A. There is nothing listed here for 1969, so there is
6 nothing documented for 1969. There was something done to this
7 account in 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, '76, '77, '78,
8 '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90,
9 '91, '92, '93.
10 Q. Were tax returns filed in '93?
11 A. Yes, there was.
12 Q. Okay. Now, what kind of tax return was filed in '93?
13 Was that a substitute return?
14 A. Yes, sir, it was a substitute return.
15 Q. Okay. What is a substitute return?
16 A. A substitute return is where enough data has been sent
17 in to Internal Revenue Service by businesses, banks or
18 whatever to enable them to assess tax on a tax return.
19 Q. Okay. And does the IRS file a substitute return?
20 A. The IRS does prepare the substitute return.
21 Q. Okay. And how about '94, was a return filed?
22 A. Yes, sir, there was. This was also a substitute
23 return.
24 Q. Okay. Again, who prepares the substitute return?
25 A. Internal Revenue Service prepares the substitute
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1 return.
2 Q. Now, does that record indicate that there were any
3 levies on any withholding monies?
4 A. The 1993, the 1994 and the 1995 tax return show that
5 there was withholding credited to this account.
6 Q. Okay.
7 A. The 1993 return shows that there were two payments made
8 to these accounts, and if I'm correct, I think these were levy
9 payments.
10 Q. Okay. And would a levy payment show up as a payment on
11 the account?
12 A. Yes, it would.
13 Q. Does that record indicate that there were notices sent
14 out to the taxpayer of some kind regarding the levies?
15 A. Yes, sir, it does.
16 Q. Okay. Can you tell us the date that the notices were
17 sent out?
18 A. 11-11-1996, what we call a stat notice 26 was sent out
19 to the taxpayer regarding the 1993 tax return. 6-15-1998, a
20 notice was sent out to the taxpayer regarding the 1994 return.
21 6-15-1998, a notice was sent out to the taxpayer regarding the
22 1995 return.
23 Q. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
24 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, at this time, we
25 request that that document be marked as Exhibit 1.
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1 THE COURT: Yes, it will be Exhibit 1 in the
2 case.
3 (Exhibit Number 1 was marked. Description:
4 Notes to Taxpayer - 1996.)
5 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass you another document. Can you
6 tell me what that document is?
7 A. This document is certification of lack of record.
8 Q. And is that a document that you prepared?
9 A. Yes, sir, it is.
10 Q. And what does that document indicate?
11 A. This document indicates that there has been no record
12 of any return being filed by the taxpayer for 1996, 1997,
13 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001.
14 Q. Thank you. So that would be based on your examination
15 of the IRS records, and there was no indication of any type of
16 return was filed?
17 A. No type of return was filed for those years.
18 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, at this time, we would
19 ask that this record be introduced as Exhibit Number 2 in
20 the case.
21 THE COURT: It will be Exhibit 2 in the case.
22 (Exhibit Number 2 was marked. Description:
23 Cert. of Lack of Record.)
24 Q. Ma'am, are you familiar with some records that are
25 referred to in the IRS as IRP documents?
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1 A. Yes, sir.
2 Q. What is an IRP document?
3 A. An IRP document is a document that is sent into the
4 service center. It could be W-2 to '98, to '99. Same type of
5 information is reported to social security. This gives
6 information of income that was received and paid by the
7 taxpayer.
8 Q. Okay. And is this information compiled?
9 A. Yes, it is.
10 Q. And is it formatted in a form that's referred to by the
11 IRS as an IRP?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. Okay. And would these documents -- these IRP documents
14 have, for example --
15 THE COURT: Would you spell the word IRP?
16 Q. What are the initials?
17 A. The command code that is used to pull this information
18 up is spelled IRPTRO.
19 THE COURT: Thank you.
20 Q. When people shorthand it, they call it an IRP?
21 A. Yes, we call it IRP, I-R-P.
22 Q. Okay. Now, would these IRP documents show mortgage
23 payments that was made?
24 A. Yes, it does.
25 Q. Would it also show wage income?
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1 A. Yes, it does.
2 Q. And interest income?
3 A. Yes, it does.
4 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you a document. Can you
5 tell me what that document is?
6 A. This is an information returns on-line transcript,
7 which is IRPTRO, for the taxpayer Vernice Kuglin, social
8 security number 514-44-1724.
9 Q. And what year is that for?
10 A. This is for the tax year 1996.
11 Q. Okay. And you -- this came from the IRS records?
12 A. Yes, sir, it did.
13 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, at this time we would
14 ask that this be marked as Exhibit 3 in the case.
15 THE COURT: It Exhibit 3 in the case.
16 (Exhibit Number 3 was marked. Description:
17 1996 IRPTRO.)
18 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass another document to you.
19 Excuse me. Can you tell us what that document is?
20 A. This document is also a transcript, information returns
21 on-line transcript, again, IRPTRO, captioned Vernice Kuglin --
22 I'm sorry if I'm pronouncing the name.
23 Q. I think it is Kuglin.
24 A. Kuglin. Social security 514-44-1724 for the tax year
25 1997.
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1 Q. And when you use the term tax year, would that be for
2 most individuals the calendar year?
3 A. Yes, sir, it would.
4 Q. Okay. So it would run from January the 1st of '97 to
5 December 31st?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
8 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
9 THE COURT: Exhibit 4.
10 (Exhibit Number 4 was marked. Description:
11 1997 IRPTRO.)
12 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you another document. Can
13 you tell me what that document is?
14 A. This document is also an information returns on-line
15 transcript, again IRPTRO for Vernice Kuglin, social security
16 number 514-44-1724 for the tax year 1998.
17 MR. MURPHY: All right. At this time, we would
18 ask that this be admitted into evidence as the next
19 numbered exhibit.
20 THE COURT: Exhibit 5.
21 (Exhibit Number 5 was marked. Description:
22 1998 IRPTRO.)
23 BY MR. MURPHY:
24 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass you another document. Can you
25 tell me what this document is?
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1 A. This document is an information returns on-line
2 transcript, again, IRPTRO for Vernice Kuglin, social security
3 number 514-44-1724 for the tax year 1999.
4 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would ask that this
5 be marked as the next numbered exhibit.
6 THE COURT: It is Exhibit 6.
7 (Exhibit Number 6 was marked. Description:
8 Information Returns.)
9 Q. Ma'am, I pass you another document, can you tell me
10 what that document is?
11 A. This is an information returns on-line transcript,
12 again, IRPTRO, for Vernice Kuglin, social security number
13 514-44-1724 for the tax year 2000.
14 Q. Thank you.
15 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would ask that be
16 admitted as the next numbered exhibit.
17 THE COURT: Exhibit 7.
18 (Exhibit Number 7 was marked. Description:
19 2000 IRPTRO.)
20 Q. Ma'am, I've handed to you another document, can you
21 tell me what that document is?
22 A. This is an information returns on-line transcript,
23 again, IRPTRO for Vernice Kuglin, social security number
24 514-44-1724 for the tax year 2001.
25 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would ask this be
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1 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
2 THE COURT: Exhibit 8.
3 (Exhibit Number 8 was marked. Description:
4 2001 IRPTRO.)
5 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to hand you another document, can you
6 tell us what that document is?
7 A. This is a certificate of assessments, payments and
8 other specified matters for a Form 1040, U. S. individual
9 income tax return captioned Vernice Kuglin, social security
10 number 514-44-1724 for the tax year 1992.
11 Q. Okay. What does that document indicate?
12 A. This document indicates that a tax return was filed for
13 1992, it shows the adjusted gross income, the taxable income,
14 the document locator number of the tax return filed, the
15 amount of tax that was assessed on this tax return, the
16 withholding credit that was allowed this taxpayer and the
17 refund that was issued to the taxpayer.
18 Q. Okay. What were those -- can you go through those
19 figures for us?
20 A. Yes, I can. I'm showing that the adjusted gross income
21 for 1992 was $112,084. I'm showing of that amount the taxable
22 income was $86,644. The tax on this return was $20,892 with a
23 document locator number of 49221104650003, withholding credit
24 of $22,228 with a refund to the taxpayer of $1,336.
25 Q. Okay. Thank you.
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1 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would ask this
2 record be made the next numbered exhibit.
3 THE COURT: Exhibit 9.
4 (Exhibit Number 9 was marked. Description:
5 1992 Certificate.)
6 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you another document. Can
7 you tell us what that document is?
8 A. This document is a certificate of assessments, payments
9 and other specified matters for Form 1040, U. S. individual
10 income tax return captioned Vernice B. Kuglin, social security
11 number 514-44-1724 for the tax year 1993.
12 Q. Okay. What does that document indicate?
13 A. This document indicates the adjusted gross income, the
14 taxable income, the document locator number for the substitute
15 for return. It also shows that two extensions were filed by
16 this taxpayer.
17 Q. Now, what is an extension?
18 A. An extension is filed on or before April the 15th
19 asking for additional time to file your tax return by the
20 taxpayer.
21 Q. Okay. And does -- does that indicate that there were
22 levies made or assessments made against the withheld
23 taxation -- tax money?
24 A. Yes, sir, it does.
25 Q. Okay. And at the end of the year, what was the balance
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1 due and owing in that case?
2 A. There's a balance due showing of zero on this account.
3 Q. And what does that mean?
4 A. It means that all the taxes due on this account had
5 been paid by levy or by withholding and that there is no
6 additional taxes due and no refund due the taxpayer at this
7 time.
8 Q. For that year?
9 A. For that specific year.
10 Q. And does that document also indicate that there was any
11 contact with the taxpayer, any letters or anything like that
12 sent to her, notices?
13 A. Yes, sir. Delinquency notice was sent to the taxpayer
14 on 4-17-1995. Another delinquency notice was sent to the
15 taxpayer on 6-12-95. Another delinquency notice was sent on
16 7-24-1995. Another delinquency notice was sent on 9-4-1995.
17 The statutory notice of balance due was sent to the taxpayer
18 on 9-9-1996, and a statutory notice of intent to levy was sent
19 to the taxpayer on 9-30-1996. There are additional notices of
20 balance due on this account of -- from 1997, '99, 2000, 2001
21 and 2002.
22 Q. Thank you, ma'am.
23 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
24 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
25 THE COURT: Exhibit 10.
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1 (Exhibit Number 10 was marked. Description:
2 1993 Certificate.)
3 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you a document. Can you
4 tell me what that document is?
5 A. This document is a certificate of assessment payments
6 and other specified matters for Form 1040 U. S. individual
7 income tax return captioned Vernice Kuglin, social security
8 number 514-44-1724, for the tax year 1994.
9 Q. Okay. Now, does that show that any -- that a
10 substitute return was filed?
11 A. Yes, sir, it does.
12 Q. Again, who makes out the substitute return?
13 A. The Internal Revenue Service prepares the substitute
14 for return.
15 Q. And that 1994 tax year, had there been taxes withheld
16 from Ms. Kuglin's pay?
17 A. Yes, there was.
18 Q. In what amount?
19 A. Withholding credit of $22,218.
20 Q. Okay. Now, were assessments or levies made for that
21 tax year?
22 A. Assessments were made for the tax year of -- well,
23 let's see, you have an estimated tax penalty for $395, you
24 have a filing penalty for $2,534. You have tax assessed of
25 $32,353. You have interest assessed for $3,348.97. You have
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1 a fee, our collection cost of $16.
2 Q. Okay. Does that document indicate any notices were
3 sent to the defendant regarding her tax situation?
4 A. Yes, sir, there was. There was a statutory notice of
5 balance due sent out on 11-24-1997, statutory notice with
6 intent to levy was sent out on 12-15-1997. There was another
7 statutory notice of balance due sent out on 4-6-1998.
8 Q. Okay. And there's a balance due and owing on that
9 account?
10 A. Yes, sir, there is, there is a balance due of
11 $16,428.97.
12 Q. Thank you, ma'am.
13 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would move this
14 document into evidence as the next numbered exhibit.
15 THE COURT: Exhibit 11.
16 (Exhibit Number 11 was marked. Description:
17 1994 Certificate.)
18 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to show you one final document. Can
19 you take a look at that and tell us what it is?
20 A. This is a certificate for assessment payments and other
21 specified matters for Form 1040 U. S. individual tax return
22 captioned Vernice Kuglin, social security number 514-44-1724,
23 for the tax year 1995.
24 Q. Now, does it show any -- does it show a tax return was
25 filed for '95?
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1 A. A substitute for return was filed for 1995.
2 Q. Okay. And does it show any withholding?
3 A. Yes, sir, it shows withholding of $24,311.
4 Q. Okay. And what taxes were paid with that sort of
5 thing?
6 A. No taxes were paid other than the withholding on the
7 account. There's estimated tax penalty assessed of 970.
8 Excuse me, $970.
9 Q. Okay.
10 A. There's a late filing penalty for $5,118. The tax
11 assessment on the account was $44,783, and interest is
12 assessed of $3,925.59.
13 Q. Okay. Does that document indicate that any notices
14 were sent out to Ms. Kuglin?
15 A. Yes, sir, there was. In 11-24-97, a statutory notice
16 of balance due was sent to the taxpayer. 12-15 of 1997, a
17 statutory notice of intent to levy was sent to the taxpayer.
18 Again, on 3-9-98, an additional notice of intent to levy was
19 sent to the taxpayer.
20 Q. Any other notices?
21 A. No, sir.
22 Q. And what is the balance due on that account?
23 A. The balance on this account is $30,485.59.
24 Q. Thank you, ma'am.
25 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
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1 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
2 THE COURT: Exhibit 12.
3 (Exhibit Number 12 was marked. Description:
4 1995 Certificate.)
5 Q. Ma'am, for people -- if you can answer this, for people
6 living in Tennessee, where do they send their tax returns
7 into?
8 A. Memphis.
9 Q. Okay. Is there an IRS Service Center here?
10 A. Yes, sir, there is a service center here in Memphis.
11 MR. MURPHY: One second, Your Honor.
12 Judge, we don't have any further questions for
13 Ms. Osborne.
14 THE COURT: Cross examination?
15 MR. BECRAFT: Could I ask the court something
16 about morning break?
17 THE COURT: It will be fairly soon.
18 CROSS EXAMINATION
19 BY MR. BECRAFT:
20 Q. Good morning, Ms. Osborne.
21 A. Good morning.
22 Q. How long have you worked for the Internal Revenue
23 Service?
24 A. I have worked for the Internal Revenue Service for
25 approximately 28 years.
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1 Q. Did you start out in the position that you're in now?
2 A. No, sir, I did not.
3 Q. What was your first job?
4 A. I was a data transcriber.
5 Q. And data transcriber, correct me if I'm wrong, if we
6 were sitting down at the IRS office in the spring of every
7 year, you have all of this information that is flowing in and
8 people that are data transcribers are taking information,
9 typing it in, loading it into the computer, is that correct?
10 A. That's correct.
11 Q. How long were you a data transcriber?
12 A. I was a data transcriber for approximately four months.
13 Q. And what did you do after that?
14 A. I went to an area called photocopy.
15 Q. And -- just kind of give us an idea of what you have
16 done at the IRS since you started to work for them.
17 A. I started as a data transcriber. From there, I went to
18 photocopy unit where requests are sent into the IRS for
19 photocopies of your tax returns. We photocopy this
20 information and send it to you for your records. From there,
21 I went to a typing unit where I transcribed letters that will
22 be sent out to the taxpayers. From there, I have worked many
23 places. I have worked -- majority of my time was spent in
24 collections where I worked with tax delinquent accounts and
25 where I set up installment agreements for taxpayers, written
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1 letters, answered questions concerning these accounts, tried
2 to explain a little bit about the accounts. I have also
3 worked in what we call notice review where after the tax
4 return has been prepared, that's for the balances, whether
5 you're going to get a refund or whether you're going to get a
6 balance due notice is sent to this area, and we check it to
7 make sure it is correct. We go back and check the return to
8 see if any payments or anything else was left off of the
9 account. I was in criminal investigation, worked for the
10 questionable refund unit where we questioned refunds on tax
11 accounts. We verified to see if these refunds were valid
12 refunds.
13 Q. You mentioned criminal investigation, is that the
14 function that you're in now?
15 A. Yes, sir.
16 Q. All right.
17 A. That's a part of the function I'm in now.
18 Q. So you have been working criminal investigation for how
19 long?
20 A. I have been in criminal investigation for nine years.
21 Q. Nine years. And that requires you to do things like --
22 you said, I believe, on direct that you're a court witness.
23 A. Yes, I am.
24 Q. That means coming to court and testifying in cases like
25 this?
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1 A. Court witness coordinator is my current job title. I
2 do research accounts. I request the information for these
3 accounts and prepare these accounts for court for the special
4 agents.
5 Q. Now, can I describe for you -- you know, you have
6 offered into -- through your testimony Exhibit Number 1. Can
7 I ask you some questions about that, about how it's created?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. Okay. That's the IMF complete?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 Q. Let me ask you these questions, see if I got the
12 picture right. A whole bunch of information flows into
13 service centers, you got tax returns, you got all sorts of
14 documents?
15 A. Yes, sir.
16 Q. And they flow in and the data transcribers sit down and
17 take the information off of it, right?
18 A. Yes, sir.
19 Q. And that information gets inserted into the IRS
20 computers, right?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. And so these -- these inputs of information are made at
23 a certain time, correct?
24 A. They are made all during the year.
25 Q. All right. And the approximate time in which the data
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1 is input is something that you can ultimately see when you get
2 a computer printout known as an IMF, right?
3 A. Yes, sir.
4 Q. For something like a tax return that flows into the
5 service center, is it not true that one of the first things
6 that gets done or at some stage of this process, you mentioned
7 during your direct testimony this thing known as a document
8 locator number?
9 A. Yes, sir.
10 Q. It gets stuck on a return, right?
11 A. Every document that comes into the service center has
12 to have a document locator number because that is what we use
13 to track and try to find this document.
14 Q. All right. And that information, you know, let's say a
15 1040 -- you mentioned I think you were reading off on the '92
16 return a document locator number for Ms. Kuglin's return?
17 A. Yes, sir.
18 Q. All right. And that gets inserted about the time that
19 the return gets filed, right?
20 A. Yes, sir.
21 Q. And that information gets logged into the computer,
22 right?
23 A. Right.
24 Q. And so that if someone like you wants to find
25 something, all you have to do is pull up the electronic file
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1 on every one, right?
2 A. Clarify by what you mean by electronic file.
3 Q. Okay. The individual master file.
4 A. Yes, sir.
5 Q. For the benefit of the jury, an individual master file
6 is kind of a --
7 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to
8 counsel testifying. He can ask the witness a question.
9 MR. BECRAFT: I will frame it in a question.
10 THE COURT: All right.
11 Q. Is it not true that an individual master file is
12 basically the computer record regarding the various documents
13 that are filed regarding a particular individual?
14 A. Yes, sir.
15 Q. All right. So you can print it out and it will say
16 year?
17 A. I can call up specific years.
18 Q. Okay. And -- but then, you know, to take a look --
19 well, let me ask you this: May I approach the witness, Your
20 Honor?
21 THE COURT: You may.
22 Q. Now, I don't have Government Exhibit Number 1, but I
23 have tendered to you a copy of Defense Exhibit Number 52, and
24 I would like to ask if you could identify that for me, please.
25 A. Yes, sir, this is a IMF, individual master file for a
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1 specific tax year, for the tax year 1996. You also have 1997
2 in here, 1998, 1999 and 2000.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, can I approach again?
4 THE COURT: You may.
5 Q. I've just stuck back on -- in front of you there
6 Government's Exhibit Number 1, and can you kind of compare
7 them? I'm just asking for the -- Government's Exhibit Number
8 1, I don't know the date on it, but --
9 A. Number 1 is a complete, which is every year, your
10 entity information, the tax returns that have been filed by
11 this taxpayer. The exhibit you gave me, this one is for a
12 specific year. They are one and the same, but the specific is
13 broken down per each tax year where the complete is all of the
14 tax years together.
15 Q. You don't deny -- listen to my question, on Government
16 Exhibit Number 1, I don't know the date, but off the top of my
17 head, I think it is November of 2002, is that about right?
18 A. Right.
19 Q. Okay. And Defendant's Exhibit Number 52 bears a date,
20 correct me if I'm wrong, it says 10-9-of 2001?
21 A. Right.
22 Q. Now, do you deny that this is an authentic print that
23 comes from the IRS's computer regarding Vernie Kuglin?
24 A. What do you mean do I deny?
25 Q. Well, do you accept that this is a specific --
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1 A. Yes, sir.
2 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, may I move for the
3 admission of Defense Exhibit 52.
4 THE COURT: Exhibit 13.
5 (Exhibit Number 13 was marked. Description:
6 IMF Transcript.)
7 Q. Can I ask you some questions about this and since I
8 have a copy of this one and not the government's, can we refer
9 to Exhibit Number 13?
10 A. Yes, sir, I have turned to the same page.
11 Q. Let's show the jury what this looks like.
12 MR. BECRAFT: If it please the court, I have
13 got copies.
14 THE COURT: Have you got your microphone on?
15 We will take a break and let y'all work out the
16 technology.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
18 THE COURT: Back in ten minutes.
19 (Recess taken at 10:35 until 10:55 a.m.)
20 THE COURT: Yes, sir, Mr. Murphy.
21 MR. MURPHY: We have got one matter to take up
22 at side bar.
23 THE COURT: Okay. Sure, come on up. I mean
24 there's nobody in here.
25 MR. MURPHY: The only thing is if we're on --
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1 that's fine, as long as we're not on the microphones.
2 THE COURT: All I have to do is hit that button
3 and they can't hear you.
4 MR. MURPHY: Okay. Good.
5 THE COURT: Now, you're at side bar.
6 MR. MURPHY: Close enough. Judge, the defense
7 is going to offer a copy of this IMF transcript, and on
8 it, it has got -- for several of these years, and it
9 indicates a modified balance, accrued interest and penalty
10 of zero, zero, zero for some of the years covered in the
11 indictment. And this witness -- this particular witness
12 didn't testify that there was any tax due and owing or
13 that the IRS was carrying a balance on the account for the
14 years in question. So I would submit that it goes outside
15 of the scope of the direct, and it also may be confusing
16 because I believe what the IRS procedure is if they don't
17 have enough information or if there's not withholding,
18 they typically don't figure people's taxes as opposed to a
19 case where they have withholding and they do have
20 information.
21 MR. BECRAFT: If I may, Your Honor, that's not
22 where I'm headed. The government doesn't doubt that that
23 comes -- that's a document that comes straight out of
24 discovery. For all of my exhibits, I unfortunately
25 premarked all of my exhibits and put defense stickers on
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1 them, but I'm using that particular exhibit because it's
2 handy, it's similar to Government Exhibit Number 1. The
3 witness has authenticated it, and what Mr. Murphy fears is
4 the use to which I will be putting the document is simply
5 not the case. I'm not going to talk about -- you know, we
6 got -- what Mr. Murphy gave to me in discovery bears a
7 date in November of 2001 -- or October of 2001, and the
8 one that the government has used, which is a similar kind
9 of computer record printed out is about a year later, but,
10 you know, I'm not making any bones of contention about the
11 difference in the transactions between the two documents.
12 MR. MURPHY: Judge, and my understanding is
13 there isn't any difference. We just -- in order for her
14 to certify a copy of it, she had to print a new one.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
16 THE COURT: What do you want to do with Exhibit
17 13?
18 MR. BECRAFT: I wanted to use it primarily
19 because I don't have a copy of Government 1, which I would
20 like to --
21 THE COURT: All you have to do is put it on the
22 screen.
23 MR. BECRAFT: Sure.
24 THE COURT: 13 is just duplicate.
25 MR. MURPHY: That's fine.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: There's two different types of
2 transcripts, Your Honor. One is a complete and one is a
3 specific.
4 THE COURT: Let me see 1. You want Exhibit 13
5 stricken or what do you want?
6 MR. BECRAFT: No, I offered it, Your Honor.
7 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy wants me to do something
8 to 13.
9 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, I don't think
10 that's -- I don't think you can use another document to
11 cross-examine the witness -- you know, the witness about
12 of a business record like this. Or if I had some idea
13 about what he was trying to do, it may be something that I
14 would just say, yeah, he gets to do it, Judge.
15 MR. BECRAFT: I mean I can limit it to -- my
16 only -- the reason -- Your Honor, I would like to have a
17 copy of Government Exhibit 1, I don't have one, so I'm
18 forced to kind of operate off of my discovery copy, which
19 is what I was doing.
20 THE COURT: Okay. Then I'm not clear what is
21 being said, but it sounds like Exhibit 13 is withdrawn,
22 and you just want us to make a copy of Exhibit 1. Let's
23 make a copy of Exhibit 1 and give it to him. Is that all
24 we need to do?
25 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor.
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1 THE COURT: All right. Without objection,
2 Exhibit 13 is withdrawn.
3 MR. MURPHY: Judge, we're going to see if we
4 have got a copy of what -- of what this witness --
5 THE COURT: They're making a copy right now.
6 It doesn't make any difference.
7 All right. I show it as withdrawn. Anything
8 else?
9 MR. MURPHY: No, sir, Your Honor.
10 MR. BECRAFT: That's it, Your Honor.
11 THE COURT: You can bring the jury in.
12 (Jury in at 11:00 a.m.)
13 THE COURT: If you're keeping track of the
14 numbers of exhibits, Exhibit 13 was simply withdrawn by
15 agreement. Exhibit 1 apparently has the same data on it,
16 and we didn't need another document, so we now have 12
17 exhibits, and 13 is withdrawn.
18 Yes, sir, you may proceed.
19 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
20 Q. Ms. Osborne, we were, before the break, talking about
21 how Government Exhibit Number 1, a computer printout named
22 individual master file was created. And, in essence, over a
23 period of time, various transactions are made or insertions
24 into the computer are kind of stored so that the IRS can print
25 out a document which contains all -- basically all the entries
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1 that relate to a particular party, right?
2 A. Correct.
3 Q. So maybe in a few moments we'll will have Government
4 Exhibit Number 1 back, but generally what you do -- you know,
5 in order for you to make a determination about filing or
6 nonfiling in this case, you had to go to the computer, pull up
7 Vernie Kuglin's individual master file, correct?
8 A. Would you repeat your question, please?
9 Q. Government Exhibit Number 13, you probably have printed
10 out the same thing several times before, at least, right?
11 A. Yeah.
12 Q. Every time you print it out, it is just basically the
13 same thing except if you got a later transaction, the later
14 transaction will show up on a later print, is that about
15 right?
16 A. Correct.
17 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach, Your Honor?
18 THE COURT: You may. You can just put it on
19 the screen.
20 MR. BECRAFT: I will do that, Your Honor.
21 Q. Okay. Ms. Osborne, you can probably refer to the
22 original of Government Exhibit 1 and I will use a copy and I
23 will stick it up on the Elmo, and let's -- okay. This is what
24 Government Exhibit 1 looks like, correct?
25 THE COURT: Let's just put Exhibit 1 on the
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1 screen, that's what we will do. Is that 1?
2 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor, it is. It's a
3 copy. This is a copy.
4 THE COURT: Let's use the original.
5 MR. BECRAFT: All right.
6 THE COURT: The reason we do that, ladies and
7 gentlemen, is you should be able to look at the original
8 or whatever is going to be shown to you in the jury room,
9 there is no reason for you to later wonder.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
11 Q. You were talking -- or when you testified on direct
12 about the returns that had been filed, you -- in essence, you
13 were doing -- you were looking at this document, and based
14 upon your knowledge of how things get printed out, kind of
15 interpreting it, is that correct?
16 A. That's correct.
17 Q. All right. So looking at page one of Government
18 Exhibit Number 1, you know, you got these transactions -- you
19 see where my finger is pointed over here on the left side of
20 the page?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. These are years down here in the middle so, that, you
23 know, very first year is 1966?
24 A. Actually, that's a cycle.
25 Q. Okay, cycle. Would that relate to the year 1966?
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1 A. The cycle was 1966, cycle 20.
2 Q. Okay. So you can take a look at this type of
3 information and get a real good idea as to what happened?
4 A. Yes, sir.
5 Q. All right. So you're interpreting it, correct?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 Q. Now, flip over to the second page, page number two of
8 this. Okay, now --
9 THE COURT: It should be on your screen right
10 in front of you.
11 THE WITNESS: Yes.
12 MR. BECRAFT: Let me move it out a little.
13 THE COURT: Sure.
14 Q. It looks like I have got everything on page two up on
15 the screen, is that right?
16 A. Fairly close, yes, sir.
17 Q. And right down here where my finger is pointed, there's
18 the words tax period 30, 1993, 12.
19 A. Yes, sir.
20 Q. And that's kind of interpreted, that's the -- the 12 is
21 the end of the year?
22 A. Right.
23 Q. Of 1993?
24 A. Right.
25 Q. Right? And so what the IRS does is that for everything
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1 that related to year 1993, people log this stuff into the
2 computer, and so you're able to print out and show what
3 happened at a particular time, right?
4 A. Yes, sir.
5 Q. Now, for -- I flipped over to page three of Government
6 Exhibit Number 1, and I think that you said that for 1993,
7 this is a printout of everything that relates to Ms. Kuglin
8 for the year 1993, is that correct?
9 A. Everything that came through the service center, yes,
10 sir.
11 Q. At least up to the date of 11-7 of 2002, right?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. Okay. And so you reached the conclusion that for 1993,
14 there was a substitute for return filed in November of '95,
15 right?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. Okay. Where my fingers are pointed?
18 A. Yes, sir.
19 Q. And so to -- you see this number 150 out to the side?
20 A. Yes, sir.
21 Q. Is that what is known as a transaction code?
22 A. That is a transaction code.
23 Q. All right. Now, let me flip over to '94, let's see,
24 page four has more information about '93, right?
25 A. Right.
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1 Q. Okay. And then it isn't until you get down to page
2 five that we get into '94 information, right?
3 A. That's correct.
4 Q. Okay. Where the jury is looking at my finger?
5 A. Uh-huh.
6 Q. You can see tax period, 30, and that relates to '94?
7 A. Yes, sir.
8 Q. And '94 has got -- I'm flipping to subsequent pages,
9 and all of this is in computer lingo, so to speak, right?
10 A. Well, yes, sir, in a way.
11 Q. The people inside the IRS know what these various
12 transactions mean, right?
13 A. Most of them do, yes, sir.
14 Q. But in order to understand what they really mean, is
15 there some kind of a manual that tells you what certain things
16 mean like this transaction code 140 that my finger was on just
17 a second ago?
18 A. Yes, sir.
19 Q. Is that a document 6209?
20 A. Yes, sir, it is.
21 Q. Is document 6209 something you're familiar with?
22 A. Yes, sir, it is.
23 Q. Okay. You have to be very familiar, somebody in your
24 job that has worked in the position that you have worked for
25 nine years, you pull up these computer printouts regarding a
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1 whole bunch of people all the time, right?
2 A. Yes, sir, I do.
3 Q. And then you have to kind of look at them and, you
4 know -- this is plainly not English, it's transactions that
5 are kind of coded in a certain way, but you know what their
6 meaning is, is that correct?
7 A. Yes, sir, I do.
8 Q. Now, I think on your direct testimony, you mentioned
9 for '94, there was a substitute for return?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 Q. Okay. I'm on page five, what I'm showing on the Elmo
12 here, you see where my finger is, tax period 30?
13 A. Yes, sir.
14 Q. So if the jury is looking at this document, going back
15 to page five and six, all the way up to some spot, about
16 halfway down the page of page seven, that's the information
17 that relates to '94?
18 A. Yes, sir, it is.
19 Q. And you reached the conclusion about substitute for
20 return -- you see where my finger is on page five?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Substitute for return that would relate for year '94 is
23 indicated where my finger is placed, SFR 150?
24 A. Yes, sir.
25 Q. Now, in order for you to conclude that someone has not
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1 filed an income tax return, what you do for like the later
2 years, what you did is you're looking for a transaction code
3 or the absence of a transaction code, is that correct?
4 A. That's correct.
5 Q. And the absence of a transaction code -- let me back
6 up. A minute ago, I mentioned something and you did too,
7 mentioned something about a document locator number?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. And if I could direct us -- I happen to be on page five
10 which relates to the year 1994, and you see this on the far
11 left-hand side where my finger is SFR, transaction code 150,
12 right?
13 A. Uh-huh.
14 Q. And then this is date of the year?
15 A. The date that it was processed.
16 Q. And that would be -- let's see, that's -- what is that
17 date, that's 1997?
18 A. 04-21-1997.
19 Q. And then out here to the side, you see where my finger
20 goes, that's a 14 digit number?
21 A. Yes, that's document locator number.
22 Q. If you wanted to find something, if you're looking for
23 a particular return or maybe some other type of document, this
24 computer printout, you know, will have that document locator
25 number over there, and with that document locator number, you
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1 can find any document that has been filed by the IRS, right?
2 A. I can request that document, yes, sir.
3 Q. They're not necessarily stored around here, but you
4 would know where a particular document is stored and contact
5 that party and say, hey, give me the document that has this
6 document locator number on it, right?
7 A. Yes, I have to submit my request to a person and they
8 pull the document.
9 Q. Okay. Now, but as -- all of this stuff has no real
10 significance to anybody except people in the IRS that can
11 understand what the transaction codes mean, what the document
12 locator numbers mean, it simply is not in plain English, is
13 that correct?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. And -- but there is a manual that kind of tells us what
16 certain things mean, is that correct?
17 A. Yes, sir.
18 Q. And how long have you studied or been using or been
19 familiar with this document 6209?
20 A. For about 25 years.
21 Q. Okay.
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we approach?
23 THE COURT: You may.
24 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
25 bench.)
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1 THE COURT: Put one side on this side and one
2 side on this side. Come over here, Mr. Murphy, that way
3 you're talking between her.
4 MR. MURPHY: Judge, we're going to object to
5 asking questions about the code book. You know, the
6 relevance of it.
7 THE COURT: It sounds like it would be
8 irrelevant.
9 MR. BECRAFT: Well, Your Honor, the --
10 THE COURT: Turn your mic off.
11 MR. BECRAFT: I think I got it off, Judge.
12 Your Honor, this is -- I don't want to belabor the point,
13 that's not my purpose.
14 THE COURT: Okay. If you agree with the
15 government, move on.
16 MR. BECRAFT: The government offered Exhibit
17 Number 1, and there is certain information on there that
18 this witness is going to testify that she is familiar with
19 the very manual I have got. True, the manual is not in
20 evidence, but the manual is what I use in order to
21 interpret the very document that the government has
22 offered into evidence.
23 THE COURT: It doesn't have anything to do with
24 her good faith belief.
25 MR. BECRAFT: There's a transaction code on the
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1 government's document that I would like to have the
2 witness explain, that's where I'm headed. One transaction
3 code or one computer entry.
4 THE COURT: Does it have anything to do with an
5 issue that is going to be decided by the court?
6 MR. BECRAFT: I think it does.
7 THE COURT: What issue is it?
8 MR. BECRAFT: I will go ahead and tell the
9 court. Can I run back here and get something?
10 THE COURT: Sure.
11 MR. BECRAFT: This will be my offer of proof if
12 the --
13 THE COURT: Sure.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I have got it over
15 here. This is the manual. Mr. Bernhoft got it, I have
16 got my own manual. This is Mr. Bernhoft's copy of the
17 manual.
18 THE COURT: Does she say that she got the
19 manual, reviewed the manual?
20 MR. BECRAFT: They use the manual all the time.
21 THE COURT: Did the defendant say that she got
22 the manual and used the manual?
23 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor.
24 THE COURT: All right. Then let me understand
25 how it has got anything to do with anything.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, this is what I would
2 like to point out for the benefit of the jury, in
3 reference to the interpretation of Government's Exhibit
4 Number 1 --
5 THE COURT: What is the thing we're
6 interpreting?
7 MR. BECRAFT: And according -- where I'm
8 headed --
9 THE COURT: I'm looking on my screen. What are
10 we looking for?
11 MR. BECRAFT: This is -- I had it premarked as
12 53, but the manual, there's a certain transaction on the
13 Government Exhibit Number 1, it's called a mail filing
14 requirement, it is present on that document, it is mail
15 filing requirement 01, and I think it is beneficial for
16 the jury to have the witness say there is a code on
17 Government Exhibit Number 1 that ultimately construed,
18 according to the manual, says return not required to be
19 mailed to file. That's the point I'm trying to make with
20 this examination.
21 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, here is the thing.
22 This came up when we were getting ready for it, what that
23 has to do with is the -- you know, they mail returns out
24 to everybody.
25 THE COURT: Right.
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1 MR. MURPHY: That has to do with the mailing of
2 returns. But I mean I think what she is going to say is
3 that that is a misinterpretation, that the return doesn't
4 have to be filed.
5 THE COURT: The main thing is for me to
6 understand is where do you say that -- the IRS has some
7 document, something that she relied on, she can tell us
8 about it, but this doesn't sound like this is what it is.
9 It sounds like this is an internal --
10 MR. BECRAFT: I have been down this road a
11 number of times, Your Honor. This is an official document
12 of the government. 6209 interprets all that computer
13 stuff.
14 THE COURT: Sure.
15 MR. BECRAFT: There is a code on Government
16 Exhibit Number 1, and as I lead through, Your Honor I can
17 show the court, if the court wants me to run over there
18 and get it off the Elmo, I will show you where it is.
19 THE COURT: Sure, that's fine.
20 MR. BECRAFT: That symbol, page number one, MFR
21 01, it's called mail filing requirement of the manual, and
22 these are the transactions for mail filing requirement.
23 THE COURT: Uh-huh.
24 MR. BECRAFT: And that symbol right there
25 construed, according to the manual, it says -- and I think
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1 this is -- this goes to the impeachment of -- well,
2 construction of the document.
3 MR. MURPHY: Well, but, Judge, unless the
4 defendant relied on it, it's not relevant. And this
5 witness didn't offer an opinion that this defendant had to
6 file a tax return.
7 THE COURT: I mean we have got -- let's see
8 what the codes are on here. It has got a bunch of codes
9 on here. I mean unless she had something that she relied
10 on, it wouldn't matter what is in an internal document --
11 this is an internal document?
12 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor.
13 THE COURT: It is a computer printout. It's
14 their road map.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Right.
16 THE COURT: Well, I mean if she had gotten the
17 notice that said 01, not required to file a return, then
18 that's one thing, but that's not -- this isn't it, this is
19 just part of the certificate of official record, and it
20 then has a series of codes on it, a lot of other
21 information. I think Mr. Murphy is right, I don't see how
22 it's going to go anywhere, that is lead to anything that
23 is relevant to any issue in this case to ask this witness
24 about this code. Mr. Murphy, why -- what harm does it do?
25 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, I think it creates
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1 confusion, and the gist of his defense is, I relied, you
2 know, I -- if it's a good faith defense, there is nothing
3 that shows that she relied upon this. And I think it is
4 going to confuse everything.
5 THE COURT: I think it is conceded that she
6 didn't have this document, that's what I understood to be
7 said.
8 MR. BECRAFT: Yes.
9 THE COURT: And that she didn't utilize this
10 document in making -- in forming her beliefs, and,
11 therefore, it really is not probative on the issue before
12 the jury.
13 MR. BECRAFT: Okay, Your Honor.
14 THE COURT: So I'm going to sustain Mr.
15 Murphy's objection.
16 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, can I also offer,
17 being mindful that I have stuck exhibit stickers on this,
18 can I move this labeled Defendant's Exhibit 53, which
19 is -- put it in the ID category?
20 THE COURT: I mean this hasn't been presented
21 through anybody I could receive it through anyway, could
22 I?
23 MR. BECRAFT: No, this is my offer of proof,
24 where I was ultimately headed. This is a document that
25 construes --
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1 THE COURT: Where is this from?
2 MR. BECRAFT: That's from their manual. My
3 offer of proof would be that I would get her to
4 authenticate the manual, authenticate that this is a page
5 from that manual, page 8-77.
6 THE COURT: Okay.
7 MR. BECRAFT: You know, this is just an exhibit
8 that I would tender in support of this line of questioning
9 elicited from this witness.
10 THE COURT: That's no problem. If you want to
11 make it A or Exhibit A in the case.
12 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
13 THE COURT: This is not an exhibit received, it
14 is just marked for identification.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: This is marked as Exhibit A for
17 identification.
18 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Judge.
19 (Exhibit Number A was marked. Description:
20 Document 6209.)
21 (The following proceedings were had in open
22 court.)
23 Q. Now, Ms. Osborne, I'm going to -- do you have the copy
24 in front of you?
25 A. Yes, sir.
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1 Q. I'm going to -- you made some statements about -- page
2 number four relates to the year 1993, is that correct? Let me
3 show you -- can you see page number four up there on the
4 screen?
5 A. Yes, sir.
6 Q. I'm going to look toward the bottom of page number
7 four, do you see that on the screen?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. You see these things, MF stat notices?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 Q. That's what you call them, right?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. Now, you said during the course of your direct
14 testimony that for '93 and '94 and maybe '95, you correct me
15 if I'm wrong, that there were taxes withheld for Ms. Kuglin?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. And that at some stage there was an SFR or substitute
18 for return that the IRS prepared for Ms. Kuglin, correct?
19 A. Correct.
20 Q. And ultimately there was a conclusion made by the IRS
21 that additional monies were due and owing, right?
22 A. Yes, sir.
23 Q. And, in essence, the government then levied upon the
24 money that was withheld from her paycheck for '93, '94, '95,
25 is that correct?
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1 A. I have no idea about that.
2 Q. Okay. Are you familiar with the process that, you
3 know, in a situation like this, that the government has to
4 send out what is known as a ticket to tax court, a 90-day
5 letter?
6 A. Yes, sir, I'm familiar with a 90-day letter.
7 Q. Does have it a certain particular transaction code?
8 A. The TC 300 usually has a 90-day letter that is a
9 associated with it.
10 Q. Okay. Do you see anything that in reference to the
11 year 1993 -- and I'm looking at page three and moving over to
12 page four, those transaction codes, is there anything there
13 that would indicate to you that this procedure of sending out
14 a notice of deficiency was a procedure that was done?
15 A. The 90-day letter?
16 Q. Yeah.
17 A. I couldn't tell on this specific tax period.
18 Q. Well, isn't it customary or routine, at least, if the
19 government sent out a 90-day letter to someone to say that you
20 owed additional taxes, that type of transaction would show up
21 on this document, Government Exhibit 1?
22 A. I couldn't say.
23 Q. Okay. Well, do you see -- flipping over to '94, and
24 I'm on page five, and I'm going to flip over to page six,
25 where my fingers are, I'm going down the left side of the
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1 page, those are transaction codes, right?
2 A. Yes, sir.
3 Q. Now, do you see anything there that would indicate that
4 a 90-day letter had been sent to Ms. Kuglin?
5 A. Not on this specific document.
6 Q. Okay. How about -- let me flip over to my next -- I
7 moved over to page seven, is there anything on there that
8 would tell you that a 90-day letter had been sent to Ms.
9 Kuglin?
10 A. Under the stat notices, no, sir.
11 Q. All right. Do you have any -- other than you reading
12 from this document, you can't tell us whether or not the
13 IRS -- you know, you said during your direct testimony, you
14 know, a notice was sent on such and such a date. Your
15 testimony in that respect arises just from you doing something
16 like looking at this government exhibit, and, for example, on
17 page number ten, looking at the stat notices down there at the
18 bottom of the page, right?
19 A. Yes, sir.
20 Q. And that's the way you reach certain conclusions?
21 A. Most cases.
22 Q. And just because something appears there, you say,
23 well, I guess a notice was sent?
24 A. Notices have specific numbers, and those specific
25 numbers will indicate which notice or what type of notice is
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1 sent to the taxpayer.
2 Q. You don't know whether a document -- other than seeing
3 an entry that is recorded here, you have no personal knowledge
4 that actual notices were actually sent to Ms. Kuglin, is that
5 correct?
6 A. No, sir, I don't know.
7 Q. And you have no actual knowledge that even 90-day
8 letters were sent to Ms. Kuglin at least for '93, '94, '95?
9 A. Other than the fact that I know what is supposed to go
10 out when a transaction code 300 is assessed, no, sir, I do
11 not.
12 MR. BECRAFT: Nothing further, Your Honor.
13 THE COURT: Redirect?
14 MR. MURPHY: If I could see some exhibits, Your
15 Honor.
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17 BY MR. MURPHY:
18 Q. Ms. Osborne, I'm going to pass to you what has been
19 marked as Exhibit 9 in this case, and would you take a look at
20 that?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Okay. What is Exhibit 9?
23 A. This is the certificate of assessments, payments and
24 other specified matters for the year 1992.
25 Q. Does that contain some of the information that's in
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1 Exhibit 1 without computer codes?
2 A. No, sir, it does not, '92 was not included on this.
3 Q. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let me ask this: I've
4 gone back too far. I'm showing you what has been marked
5 Exhibit 10. Now, what is that?
6 A. This is a certificate of assessments, payments and
7 other specified matters for the Form 1040 for 1993.
8 Q. Okay. Let's put it up on the screen. Now, does this
9 contain some of the information that's -- that's in Exhibit 1?
10 A. Yes, sir, it does.
11 Q. Okay. And is this that information without the codes?
12 A. Yes, sir, it is.
13 Q. Okay. And, in fact -- well, does Exhibit 10 indicate
14 that delinquency notices were sent?
15 A. Yes, sir, it does.
16 Q. Okay. I'm showing you what's been marked as Exhibit 11
17 in this case. What is that, ma'am?
18 A. This is a certificate of assessments, payments and
19 other specified matters for Form 1040 for the year 1994
20 Q. Okay. Now, I'm going to put this document up on the
21 camera. Now, does this particular document also contain
22 information that was in Exhibit 1, for lack of a better word,
23 in the uncoded form?
24 A. Yes, it does.
25 Q. Okay. And does that indicate notices -- well, I'm
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1 going to turn to page two. Does that indicate notices were
2 sent to Ms. Kuglin?
3 A. Yes, sir, it does.
4 Q. Okay. And I'm going to show what you has been marked
5 as Exhibit 12 in this case. Again, what is Exhibit 12?
6 A. It is a certificate of assessments, payments and other
7 specified matters for Form 1040 for the tax year 1995.
8 Q. Okay. Thank you.
9 Now, does this also contain information that is in the
10 uncoded form?
11 A. Yes, sir, it does.
12 Q. And does that particular document indicate that a
13 statutory notice of intent to levy was issued on March the 9th
14 of 1998?
15 A. Yes, sir, it does.
16 Q. Okay. So the -- the certificates of assessments,
17 payments and other specified matters for 1040, those contain
18 uncoded language?
19 A. Yes, sir, it spells it out in plain English.
20 MR. MURPHY: Okay. One second, Your Honor.
21 Judge, I don't have any further questions.
22 THE COURT: All right. Thanks very much. We
23 will let you step down.
24 (Witness excused.)
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2 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, it is going to be Kim
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4 THE COURT: If you would stop there at the
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6 testimony you are about to give in this case will be the
7 truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help
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1 KIMBERLY GILLUM,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please, ma'am?
8 A. Kimberly Gillum.
9 Q. And would you spell your first and last name for the
10 court reporter?
11 A. K-I-M-B-E-R-L-Y G-I-L-L-U-M.
12 Q. Who do you work for, ma'am?
13 A. FedEx.
14 Q. And what is your position with FedEx?
15 A. Paralegal records custodian.
16 Q. They call them at FedEx these days, it's still Federal
17 Express?
18 A. It is still Federal Express.
19 Q. And is -- as part of your duties as custodian, are you
20 involved with the records at FedEx?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Okay. I'm going to hand to you a document and ask you
23 to tell us what that document is, please.
24 A. This is Vernice Kuglin's employment application.
25 Q. And does it --
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1 MR. BECRAFT: No objections, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: All right.
3 Q. Is that an employment application for FedEx?
4 A. Yes, it is.
5 Q. And what's the date it was issued or signed?
6 A. June 17, 1985.
7 Q. Okay. And what position was Ms. Kuglin applying for?
8 A. Pilot.
9 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, at this time, we would
10 move that into evidence as the next numbered exhibit.
11 THE COURT: Exhibit 13.
12 (Exhibit Number 13 was marked. Description:
13 Application.)
14 MR. MURPHY: And I don't have any further
15 questions, Your Honor.
16 MR. BECRAFT: No questions, either, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: Ms. Gillum, thank you. We will let
18 you step down.
19 (Witness excused.)
20 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, the next witness is
21 Elizabeth Edwards.
22 THE COURT: All right.
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1 ELIZABETH EDWARDS,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please, ma'am?
8 A. Elizabeth Edwards.
9 Q. And how do you spell your first and last name?
10 A. E-L-I-Z-A-B-E-T-H E-D-W-A-R-D-S.
11 Q. Who do you work for?
12 A. Federal Express Corporation.
13 Q. What do you do at Federal Express?
14 A. I'm manager of payroll taxes and garnishments.
15 Q. Okay. And are you involved with income tax withholding
16 on FedEx employees and maintenance of the W-4s, that sort of
17 thing?
18 A. Yes, sir.
19 Q. Now, do you know a lady that works for FedEx named Ms.
20 Vernice Kuglin?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Do you see Ms. Kuglin in the courtroom today?
23 A. Yes, sir.
24 Q. And can you describe for us where she is seated and
25 what she is wearing, please?
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1 A. She is at the desk on my right side, has on an orange
2 jacket.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Stipulate she is sitting next to
4 me, Your Honor.
5 THE COURT: Well, that's not the question. So
6 you want to finish the question?
7 Q. Ma'am, does FedEx keep records of the amount of wages
8 they pay people that work out there and the amount of taxes
9 withheld and that sort of thing?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if I may approach.
12 Judge, if you want -- I don't think there's going to be
13 any objection to these, I can put these on the screen and
14 she can look at them on the screen.
15 THE COURT: Without objection, they can be
16 displayed.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Let me just look real quick, Your
18 Honor. No objections, Your Honor.
19 THE COURT: All right. We can mark them
20 sequentially, 13, 14 -- how many are there?
21 MR. BECRAFT: I don't know, could we staple it
22 altogether and put one exhibit sticker on it?
23 THE COURT: It is really up to Mr. Murphy.
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have an objection
25 to that. This is all W-2s I'm going to deal with now. We
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1 could make it collective. Collective Exhibit 14.
2 (Exhibit Number 14 was marked. Description:
3 W-2s.)
4 Q. Okay. Ms. Edwards, if you look at the screen up there,
5 I'm going to try and zoom in on this. Do you recognize that
6 document?
7 A. Yes, sir.
8 Q. And what is that document?
9 A. It's a facsimile of a W-2 for the employees.
10 Q. And is -- did you -- these documents I have got, you
11 gathered a bunch of these up for us?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. And these came from FedEx records?
14 A. Yes, sir.
15 Q. Now, is that your handwriting at the bottom of the
16 date?
17 A. Yes, it is.
18 Q. And is that a document for Ms. Kuglin?
19 A. Yes, it is.
20 Q. Okay. How much in wages were reported?
21 A. $113,293.25.
22 Q. Okay. And how much federal tax was withheld?
23 A. $22,227.65.
24 Q. Is that that figure right next to fed tax?
25 A. Yes, it is.
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1 Q. Okay. And, again, what year was that for?
2 A. 1992.
3 Q. Now, I'm showing you another document, do you recognize
4 that document?
5 A. Yes, I do.
6 Q. And what is that document?
7 A. It's a facsimile of the 1993 W-2.
8 Q. And who is it for?
9 A. Vernice Kuglin.
10 Q. And what amount of -- what was her pay?
11 A. Her wages, federal wages?
12 Q. Her wages.
13 A. $107,386.87.
14 Q. And does that particular document show the amount of
15 federal tax withheld?
16 A. $20,847.53.
17 Q. Okay. Is that that figure with federal tax next to it?
18 A. Yes, it is.
19 Q. Okay. I'm showing you another document, can you tell
20 us what that document is?
21 A. It's a facsimile of the W-2 for 1994.
22 Q. Who was that for?
23 A. Vernice Kuglin.
24 Q. Okay. And what were the amount of -- Ms. Kuglin's
25 wages in that year?
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1 A. $118.815.
2 Q. And how much federal income tax was held?
3 A. $24,311.24.
4 Q. And is that that figure with the word fed tax written
5 next to it?
6 A. Yes, it is.
7 Q. I'm showing you another document, can you tell me what
8 that document is?
9 A. It's a facsimile of the 1995 W-2.
10 Q. And is that for a particular FedEx employee?
11 A. For Vernice Kuglin.
12 Q. And how much did Ms. Kuglin make that year?
13 A. $112,112.85.
14 Q. And that would be that figure right there?
15 A. Yes, sir.
16 Q. And does it show how much federal tax was withheld from
17 her paycheck?
18 A. $22,218.73.
19 Q. Okay. Ma'am, I'm showing you another document, can you
20 tell me what that document is?
21 A. It's 1996 facsimile of the W-2 for Vernice Kuglin.
22 Q. And what was the amount of wages paid to Ms. Kuglin?
23 A. $183,408.01.
24 Q. And what was the amount of federal tax withheld?
25 A. There was no federal tax withheld.
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1 Q. What year was that for then?
2 A. 1996.
3 Q. I have got another document that is up there on the
4 screen. Can you see it okay?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Okay. What is that document?
7 A. It's a facsimile of the W-2 for the year 1997.
8 Q. And what amount of wages does that document show?
9 A. $172,674.37.
10 Q. And how much federal income tax was withheld?
11 A. There was zero federal tax.
12 Q. I'm going to show you another document. What is that
13 document?
14 A. It's a W-2 for Vernice Kuglin.
15 Q. Okay. And what year is it for?
16 A. 1998.
17 Q. Okay. And what was the amount of wages?
18 A. $164,196.
19 Q. And was any tax withheld?
20 A. No federal income tax.
21 Q. Okay. I'm going to show you another document that's
22 part of this collective exhibit. What is that document?
23 A. It's a W-2 for 1999 for Ms. Vernice Kuglin.
24 Q. And what was the amount of wages she was paid that
25 year?
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1 A. You're going to have to bring that a little closer.
2 Q. I have the same problem.
3 A. 1724 -- $172,428.
4 Q. And how much federal income taxes withheld?
5 A. There was no federal incomes withheld.
6 Q. The next document I'm showing you, what is that?
7 A. It's a W-2 for Ms. Vernice Kuglin from the year 2000.
8 Q. Okay. And what was the amount of her wages that year?
9 A. $191,292.99.
10 Q. And was any federal tax withheld?
11 A. No, there was no federal tax withheld.
12 Q. Okay. What's the document that's up there now?
13 A. It's a copy of the W-2 from the year 2000 for Vernice
14 Kuglin.
15 Q. Okay. And what was the amount of wages for Ms. Kuglin
16 that year?
17 A. $190,673.37.
18 Q. And was any federal tax withheld?
19 A. There was no federal income tax withheld.
20 Q. Okay. Thank you.
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, we have got a group of Form
22 W-4s, if we could make that collective exhibit.
23 THE COURT: Certainly. 15.
24 (Exhibit Number 15 was marked. Description:
25 W-4s.)
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1 Q. Ma'am, can you tell us what a Form W-4 is for?
2 A. W-4 provides the employer the information from the
3 employee, their social security number, name, address, number
4 of withholdings for income tax purposes, federal income tax
5 purposes.
6 Q. I'm going to pass you what has been marked Collective
7 Exhibit 15. Can you tell me what that is?
8 A. This is a Form W-4 from 1988 for Vernice B. Kuglin.
9 Q. If you would go through all the other documents in
10 there.
11 A. 1990 Form W-4 for Vernice Kuglin, 1997 W-4 for Ms.
12 Vernice Kuglin, 1998 W-4 for Vernice Kuglin, 1999 W-4 for Ms.
13 Kuglin and a 2000 W-4 for Ms. Vernice Kuglin and 2001 for Ms.
14 Vernice Kuglin W-4.
15 Q. Okay. And these were records that came from FedEx?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would ask this be
18 admitted into evidence as Exhibit 15.
19 MR. BECRAFT: No objection, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: It's received.
21 Q. If you would, ma'am, in 1988, how many withholding
22 exceptions did Ms. Kuglin claim?
23 A. Six.
24 Q. Would you go to the next form, and in 1990, how many
25 did she claim?
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1 A. Ten.
2 Q. What's the next W-4 form?
3 A. 1997.
4 Q. Okay. And in 1997, what did Ms. Kuglin claim as her
5 status regarding income tax withholdings?
6 A. Exempt.
7 Q. Okay. And if I can -- keep going through that, what is
8 the next year?
9 A. 1998 was exempt. 1999 is exempt. 2000 is exempt.
10 2001 is exempt.
11 Q. Okay. Now, I have got another document that I would
12 like to show you. Ma'am, I'm going to show you another
13 document, can you tell me what that document is?
14 A. It's a screen print of our banking screen in our FedEx
15 system, personnel system.
16 Q. And is that for any particular person at Federal
17 Express?
18 A. It's for Vernice B. Kuglin.
19 Q. Okay. And what does that document authorize or direct
20 y'all to do?
21 A. It's a direct deposit request to have all her wages or
22 anything that she is paid from Federal Express direct
23 deposited.
24 Q. Where were they to be direct deposited?
25 A. To the Federal Express Credit Association.
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1 Q. And to a particular account?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. What's the account number?
4 A. 48512-076, and it goes to the bank ID number is
5 284084350.
6 Q. Okay. Thank you. Judge, at this time -- let me ask
7 you this something, before we move this into evidence. Is
8 this the kind of thing that would -- that would take place
9 because an employee directs it?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. Okay.
12 A. The employee is the only one who can make that change.
13 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
14 marked as the next exhibit.
15 MR. BECRAFT: No objection, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: 16.
17 (Exhibit Number 16 was marked. Description:
18 FedEx Direct Deposit Entry.)
19 Q. Now, do you recall an incident where Ms. Kuglin turned
20 in a W-4, but didn't sign it?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Okay. Do you recall about when that happened?
23 A. It was in 2000. Probably -- well, we send out
24 notification letters in December to anyone who is filing --
25 who has had exempt status in the year, and we request them to
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1 be returned to us by February the 15th, so it would have been
2 somewhere around -- from February 15th to the end of February.
3 Q. Okay. Would this be for tax year 2000?
4 A. 2001.
5 Q. 2001, okay. Now, did Ms. Kuglin bring in a form that
6 wasn't signed or how did this -- the situation arise?
7 A. I believe she sent the form in and it was not signed.
8 Q. Okay. And do the forms have to be signed?
9 A. Yes, they do.
10 Q. And did you talk with her about it?
11 A. She did call me, yes.
12 Q. What did she say about the form?
13 A. She wanted to know why I didn't accept it, and I told
14 her because it wasn't signed and told her that she would have
15 to bring me a W-4 or get a W-4 that is signed in order for me
16 to honor it.
17 Q. Did she add anything else, say anything about
18 withholding?
19 A. Not on the phone call itself, I don't think. At the
20 meeting, when she brought me the W-4, she did.
21 Q. Okay. What did she say?
22 A. She was very upset because we had held income tax out
23 of her paycheck, and she filled out the form, signed it and
24 said I want you to make sure you refund me my taxes, which we
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1 Q. Did she say anything else?
2 A. No.
3 MR. MURPHY: One second, Judge, if I can look
4 at my notes, I may be done.
5 THE COURT: Certainly.
6 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
7 questions.
8 MR. BECRAFT: Briefly, Your Honor.
9 CROSS EXAMINATION
10 BY MR. BECRAFT:
11 Q. Ms. Edwards, you have been the head of the payroll at
12 FedEx for some period of time, is that correct?
13 A. Yes, sir.
14 Q. Would it be just the last couple of years?
15 A. Yes, last two years.
16 Q. Isn't it true that as custodian of the records for the
17 FedEx business records that relate to withholding, you have
18 access to all of the employees W-4 forms going back as far as
19 you keep records, is that correct?
20 A. What's legally required, yes.
21 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach the witness, Your
22 Honor?
23 THE COURT: You may.
24 Q. I'm going to show you a document, a Form W-4 dated 1995
25 and ask you if you can identify that for me, please.
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1 A. It is a W-4 for Ms. Vernice Kuglin.
2 Q. Now, when you came to court, what the government has
3 asked you to do is to bring to court the forms W-4 that
4 would -- that are after that date, is that correct?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. All right. And the one that you have in front of you
7 is an exempt W-4 form dated December the 30th of '95, right?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. Do you know whether or not that is the actual Form W-4
10 that Vernice Kuglin submitted to FedEx in December of '95?
11 A. No, sir, I do not.
12 Q. Have you ever seen that before?
13 A. I have seen it, yes.
14 Q. Do you doubt that that is the exempt W-4 form that
15 Vernice Kuglin submitted to FedEx?
16 A. No, sir, I don't doubt it.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I move the admission
18 of that as the next exhibit.
19 MR. MURPHY: No objection, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: 17.
21 (Exhibit Number 17 was marked. Description:
22 1995 Form W-4.)
23 THE COURT: Anything else from the government?
24 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor, just one
25 question.
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3 Q. Ms. Edwards, do you know if there were any problems
4 locating a W-4 for like '96?
5 A. I don't know that there is a problem. Everything right
6 now is in vital records for that period of time, it's in
7 storage.
8 Q. Okay. I'm going to show you something, see if that may
9 refresh your recollection. I'm showing you what has been
10 marked Exhibit 15.
11 A. Right, right. This particular W-4 that's marked 19 --
12 has 1996 marked through it and 1997 written beside it, there's
13 a note at the bottom that says 1996 is no longer available,
14 it's signed by Kim Gillum.
15 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
16 questions.
17 THE COURT: All right. Ms. Edwards, thank you,
18 we will let you step down.
19 (Witness excused.)
20 THE COURT: Who will our next witness be?
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, our next witness is going
22 to be Karlene Nuby.
23 THE COURT: If you would step to the podium,
24 please, and raise your right hand. Do you swear that the
25 testimony you are about to give in this case will be the
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1 KARLENE NUBY,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please, ma'am?
8 A. Karlene Nuby.
9 Q. And would you spell your first and last name for the
10 court?
11 A. Sure. K-A-R-L-E-N-E. Last name is N-U-B, as in boy,
12 Y.
13 Q. And who do you work for, Ms. Nuby?
14 A. Kemper Services.
15 Q. What business is Kemper Services in?
16 A. Disability insurance.
17 Q. Is Kemper Insurance involved in a program with FedEx?
18 A. Yes, we are.
19 Q. Okay. And what -- briefly tell us the nature of that
20 program.
21 A. Basically, our responsibility to Kemper is to provide
22 short-term and long-term disability for FedEx employees.
23 Q. Okay. I'm going to hand you a document. Can you look
24 at that document and tell me what it is?
25 A. It's a 1998 W-2 that was issued to Vernice Kuglin.
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1 Q. Okay. And could you spell the first and last name?
2 A. Sure. First name is V, as in Victor, E-R-N-I-C-E --
3 Q. And what's the social security number?
4 A. 514-44-1724.
5 Q. Okay. Now, what does that particular document
6 indicate?
7 A. Basically, this document indicates that we at Kemper
8 Services paid to Ms. Kuglin wages in the gross amount of
9 $4,789.37. It indicates the amount of taxes that were
10 withheld for federal, social and Medicare.
11 Q. What amount of taxes was withheld?
12 A. Federal income tax that was withheld was $1,341.03,
13 social security tax withheld was $296.94. Medicare tax
14 withheld was $69.45.
15 Q. And what was the amount of the wages?
16 A. The wage amount was $4,789.37.
17 MR. MURPHY: Thank you. Your Honor, at this
18 time we would move this into evidence as the next numbered
19 exhibit.
20 MR. BECRAFT: No objection, Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: Exhibit 18.
22 (Exhibit Number 18 was marked. Description:
23 W-2 Form.)
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if I could check my notes,
25 sir.
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1 THE COURT: Certainly.
2 MR. MURPHY: No further questions, Your Honor.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Briefly, Your Honor.
4 THE COURT: Certainly. I'll do it from here.
5 CROSS EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. BECRAFT:
7 Q. Ms. Nuby, you don't know Vernice Kuglin, do you?
8 A. No, I do not.
9 Q. You just work for the insurance company that paid
10 disability, is that correct?
11 A. Correct.
12 Q. Do you have any idea when the disability was paid or
13 what it was for?
14 A. I do not know the -- it was paid for short-term
15 disability. The dates that it was paid for, I don't want to
16 take a guess at it, I believe it was some point in August of
17 '98 for approximately 14 days.
18 Q. Okay. So the $4,800 that was paid is for payments of
19 disability in August of '98?
20 A. Correct.
21 Q. For about some 14 days?
22 A. Correct.
23 Q. That's your recollection?
24 A. Yes, it is, sir.
25 Q. And, you know, if I got the document that is no longer
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1 in front of you, looked at it, what you just said is probably
2 gleaned from the document?
3 A. I'm sorry?
4 Q. I'm sorry. Is that what that document says?
5 A. That --
6 Q. Let me get it for you and let me approach the witness,
7 Your Honor.
8 A. Sure.
9 Q. This Exhibit Number 18 relates to what you just told
10 us?
11 A. Correct, sir.
12 Q. The $4,800 was paid for two weeks of disability?
13 A. Correct.
14 Q. In August?
15 A. Of '98.
16 MR. BECRAFT: Nothing further, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: Redirect?
18 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
19 questions for this witness.
20 THE COURT: All right. Thank you. We will let
21 you step down.
22 (Witness excused.)
23 THE COURT: Who will our next witness be?
24 MR. MURPHY: It's going to be Dan Haughton,
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3 THE COURT: We're going to stop at 12:25,
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7 THE CLERK: Will you please raise your right
8 hand? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about
9 to give the court and the jury to be the truth, the whole
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11 THE WITNESS: I do.
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1 DANIEL JOSEPH HAUGHTON,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
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7 Q. Would you state your name, please?
8 A. Daniel Joseph Haughton.
9 Q. Would you spell your first, middle and last name for
10 the court reporter?
11 A. D-A-N-I-E-L J-O-S-E-P-H, Haughton is H-A-U-G-H-T-O-N.
12 Q. And who do you work for, sir?
13 A. Starwood Vacation Ownership, Incorporated.
14 Q. And what business is Starwood Vacation Ownership is?
15 A. Starwood markets and develops and sells and manages
16 vacation ownerships or time share resorts all over the U. S.
17 Q. And how long have you worked for the company?
18 A. It will be five years in October.
19 Q. Okay. And are you familiar with the records that the
20 company keeps?
21 A. Yes, I am.
22 Q. Did you bring some record with you today that has to do
23 with a Vernice Kuglin?
24 A. Yes, I did.
25 Q. And specifically was there a record that had to do with
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1 mortgage interest paid?
2 A. Yes, sir.
3 Q. Could you -- was it in summary form?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Would you get that out, because I need --
6 A. Actually, I have -- there's a computer printout from
7 our computer system that's called a transaction history
8 report.
9 Q. Okay.
10 A. And from that report, I summarized interest payments
11 over the course of the loan.
12 Q. If you could get your summary out.
13 A. Okay.
14 Q. Thank you, sir.
15 MR. BECRAFT: No objections, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: All right.
17 Q. Sir, I'm handing you this document, and if you would
18 explain to us what that document is.
19 A. It simply summarizes the interest paid on a -- there
20 are actually two accounts that were in the name of Vernie B.
21 Kuglin, and it summarizes the interest paid on each account
22 during the years that the accounts were open, the first
23 account was '92, '93, '94, '95 and '96, and the second was '91
24 '92, '93, '94, 95.
25 Q. Would that be mortgage interest?
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1 A. Yes, sir, mortgage interest.
2 Q. And for 1996, what was the amount of mortgage interest
3 paid by Ms. Kuglin to your -- Ms. Kuglin to your firm?
4 A. In 1996, the amount paid was $1,047.79.
5 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
6 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
7 THE COURT: Exhibit 19.
8 (Exhibit Number 19 was marked. Description:
9 Mortgage Interest Summary.)
10 THE COURT: Cross examination?
11 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor.
12 CROSS EXAMINATION
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14 Q. Mr. Haughton, briefly, where are these time shares
15 located?
16 A. We have resorts in Orlando, Florida, St. Augustine,
17 Florida, South Carolina, Beaver Creek, Colorado, Mission
18 Hills, California and Maui, Hawaii.
19 Q. All right. Do you have any idea as to when Ms. Kuglin
20 bought a time share from your company?
21 A. Yes, I do.
22 Q. Okay. When was it?
23 A. Let's see, on this particular account, the purchase
24 date is recorded as October the 31st, 1991, and on the
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1 Q. Okay. So this time share, would it be in a condo
2 somewhere in the Orlando community?
3 A. Yes, sir.
4 Q. Okay. And so in October of '90 is the first time that
5 she entered into an agreement with your company to have a time
6 share condo down there in Orlando?
7 A. That's correct.
8 Q. And did she have, say, like about a week's worth of
9 time?
10 A. That's typically the way they're sold, yes.
11 Q. The first -- the October of '90?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. And then a couple of years later, she entered into an
14 agreement to get basically another week?
15 A. Yes, sir.
16 Q. Of time share of your condo in Orlando?
17 A. Yes, sir.
18 Q. Is there a market -- if somebody wants to get out of
19 these, is there a market where they can sell their interest to
20 someone else?
21 A. There's a market, but it is entirely saturated with
22 people trying to sell.
23 Q. Okay. And in the -- the relationship between your
24 company and Ms. Kuglin ended, I take it, sometime in '97?
25 A. The account was paid off, I believe -- yeah, the
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1 account was paid in full, but that doesn't necessarily end the
2 relationship because --
3 Q. Okay.
4 A. Okay.
5 Q. So you're saying right now she has had -- since October
6 of 1990, she has had a time share even right now with your
7 company?
8 A. Unless she has sold it, that I'm not aware of, yes.
9 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Nothing further, Your
10 Honor.
11 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I just have one question
12 that I omitted.
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15 Q. Is mortgage interest reported to the IRS?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
18 questions.
19 THE COURT: All right. Thank you. We will let
20 you be excused.
21 THE WITNESS: Thank you.
22 (Witness excused.)
23 THE COURT: Who will our next witness be?
24 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we call Isabelle
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1 ISABELLE BAKER,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please, ma'am?
8 A. Isabelle Baker.
9 Q. And would you spell your first name and last name for
10 the court reporter?
11 A. I-S-A-B-E-L-L-E B-A-K-E-R.
12 Q. And who do you work for, Ms. Baker?
13 A. GMAC Mortgage.
14 Q. And what type of business is GMAC Mortgage in?
15 A. In the mortgage business.
16 Q. Okay. That's kind of dumb second question, wasn't it?
17 A. That's all right.
18 Q. And as part of your business, do you keep records of
19 the amount of mortgage interest that people pay on mortgages
20 held by your company or serviced by your company?
21 A. Yes, we do.
22 Q. Okay. Does -- I'm going to show you some documents, do
23 you recognize those documents?
24 A. Yes, I do.
25 Q. Okay. What are those documents?
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1 A. They're 1098s.
2 Q. Okay. And do they give a figure of the amount of
3 mortgage interest that somebody pays over the course of a
4 year?
5 A. Yes, sir.
6 Q. Okay. Now, the first document, what year is that for?
7 A. For 1999.
8 Q. And who was the person that was paying the mortgage?
9 A. On the 1098, it says Vernice B. Kuglin.
10 Q. Can you spell the entire name?
11 A. First name V-E-R-N-I-C-E, last name Kuglin,
12 K-U-G-L-I-N.
13 Q. And what was the amount in -- that sheet we're talking
14 now is for 1999?
15 A. Yes, sir.
16 Q. And what was the amount of the interest?
17 A. Interest paid for 1999?
18 Q. Yes, ma'am.
19 A. Was $6,729.39.
20 Q. If you could turn that over, that page over.
21 A. Uh-huh.
22 Q. Turn that page over and go to the second sheet.
23 A. Okay.
24 Q. What is the second sheet?
25 A. Same kind of document for the year 2000.
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1 Q. And what does it show, again?
2 A. For interest paid?
3 Q. Yes, ma'am.
4 A. $7,033.28.
5 Q. And for what year was that?
6 A. For the year 2000.
7 Q. Okay. I'm sorry. And who was the person that it was
8 issued to?
9 A. Same person, Vernice Kuglin.
10 Q. Okay. And if you would go to the third document. What
11 does the third document show?
12 A. The same document for the year 2001.
13 Q. Okay. And what does -- is it issued to Ms. Kuglin?
14 A. Yes, sir, it is.
15 Q. And how much mortgage interest does it indicate she
16 paid?
17 A. $6,690.56.
18 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, ma'am. Your Honor, at
19 this time, we would move these three documents into
20 evidence as a collective exhibit.
21 THE COURT: Yes.
22 MR. BECRAFT: No objections.
23 THE COURT: Exhibit 20.
24 (Exhibit Number 20 was marked. Description:
25 Mortgage Interest Payments.)
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1 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, I don't have any
2 further questions of the witness.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Briefly, Your Honor.
4 CROSS EXAMINATION
5 BY MR. BECRAFT:
6 Q. Ms. Baker, the interest that was paid by Ms. Kuglin on
7 this mortgage, you got documents for '99, 2000, and 2001, is
8 that correct?
9 A. Yes, sir.
10 Q. Now, is this a mortgage in relation to some real
11 property, land?
12 A. It is -- I don't know whether it's land or -- I
13 guess -- it must be a residence.
14 Q. Okay. And is there some brief description there
15 regarding what type of residence is the collateral for this
16 particular mortgage?
17 A. It has the address.
18 Q. What is the address?
19 A. 200 Wagner Place, number 802, Memphis, Tennessee 38103.
20 Q. Okay. Before 1999, did your company have any
21 relationship with Ms. Kuglin?
22 A. I'm not aware of that, sir.
23 Q. Your relationship with her arose during that year of
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1 that year or not.
2 Q. Your records indicate that some time in '99, your
3 company got a mortgage on her condominium?
4 A. Pardon me?
5 Q. Your records indicate that Ms. Kuglin obtained with
6 GMAC a mortgage on her condominium some time, I guess, in '99?
7 A. Yes, sir.
8 Q. Probably the early part of '99?
9 A. Yes, sir.
10 Q. Okay. And it has been in effect ever since?
11 A. Yes, sir.
12 Q. And how much was the mortgage for when it was obtained
13 sometime in early '99, if you know?
14 A. I just show principal balance, beginning principal
15 balance. I don't have that number that you're asking me.
16 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Nothing further, Your
17 Honor.
18 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
19 questions.
20 THE COURT: All right. Thank you. We'll let
21 you step down.
22 (Witness excused.)
23 THE COURT: Who will our next witness be?
24 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, our next witness will
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3 and raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear the
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1 LEPORLEON PRUITT,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please?
8 A. Leporleon Pruitt.
9 Q. And, Mr. Pruitt, who do you work for?
10 THE COURT: Let's get the spelling on that.
11 Q. I'm sorry, Your Honor. How do you spell your name, Mr.
12 Pruitt?
13 A. L-E-P-O-R-L-E-O-N. Pruitt, P-R-U-I-T-T.
14 Q. And who do you work for?
15 A. FedEx Employees Credit Association.
16 Q. And what business is the FedEx Employees Credit
17 Association in?
18 A. The credit union business.
19 Q. Okay. And do you provide, as part of that business,
20 banking service for FedEx employees?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Okay. Mr. Pruitt, are you familiar with how records
23 are kept at your company's business?
24 A. Yes, sir.
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1 you tell me what the first document is?
2 A. First document is just the statement of the accounts
3 showing what they have in prime shares, that's savings, or
4 share draft, that's the checking account.
5 Q. Okay. Can you tell us -- that's a big stack of papers,
6 whose account are we talking about there?
7 A. Ms. Kuglin.
8 Q. Okay. Could you spell it?
9 A. K-U-G-L-I-N.
10 Q. What's the first name?
11 A. Vernice.
12 Q. Spell that, please.
13 A. V-E-R-N-I-E.
14 Q. And what's the account number?
15 A. The account number is 48512016.
16 Q. Okay. What kind of account is it?
17 A. She has a prime share, that's a savings, and she has a
18 checking account as well.
19 Q. Okay. And can you give me the date on the first page?
20 A. The date from the statement is from February the 1st of
21 '96 to February the 29th of '96.
22 Q. Okay. How about the statement on the last page?
23 A. The statement from the last page is from December the
24 1st of 2000 to December the 31st of 2000.
25 Q. And are there several -- there's a number of statements
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1 in there?
2 A. Yes, sir.
3 Q. Okay. And these are all statements from your Credit
4 Union?
5 A. Yes, sir.
6 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if we could have this
7 marked as a collective exhibit.
8 MR. BECRAFT: No objection.
9 THE COURT: It will be Exhibit 21.
10 (Exhibit Number 21 was marked. Description:
11 Statement of Accounts.)
12 Q. Now, sir, there's a second document in front of you,
13 what is that document?
14 A. This document here is the membership application.
15 Q. Okay. And for who?
16 A. Vernice Kuglin.
17 Q. Vernice what?
18 A. Kuglin.
19 Q. Okay. Does it appear to be Kuglin?
20 A. Kuglin, yes.
21 Q. K-U-G-L-I-N
22 THE COURT: It's Kuglin.
23 THE WITNESS: Kuglin.
24 THE COURT: It's Kuglin. It is kind of like
25 your first name, it's confusing.
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1 THE WITNESS: Yeah, it's Kuglin.
2 THE COURT: Because your first name starts with
3 an L?
4 THE WITNESS: Yes.
5 THE COURT: I wanted to make sure I got it
6 spelled right.
7 Q. And is that the document from the Credit Union's
8 records?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. If someone opens an account, they're required to
11 execute that?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. Now, what's the date on that?
14 A. January the 27th of 1999.
15 Q. Okay. Now, the statements run before that?
16 A. Right.
17 Q. What -- why is that date different?
18 A. This date here is different because it looks like it
19 was something somebody added on the account or -- yeah, it
20 look like somebody added on the account.
21 Q. Now, when these documents were originally requested,
22 did you come up with the original account card, account
23 opening form?
24 A. Now, the original account card, these going through
25 images system, but this is on the system.
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1 Q. Okay. The one in your hand?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Okay. Thank you.
4 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would move this
5 into evidence as the next numbered exhibit.
6 MR. BECRAFT: No objection.
7 THE COURT: 22.
8 (Exhibit Number 22 was marked. Description:
9 Application for Account.)
10 Q. Now, sir, I'm going to put some things up on the camera
11 here and ask you about some entries on some of these
12 documents. I have got a document here from exhibit --
13 Collective Exhibit 21. Can you see that document?
14 A. Yes, I can.
15 Q. Okay. This first column, it says date, what
16 information is in that column?
17 A. 4-1 of '96.
18 Q. What type of information do you put in there? Is
19 that -- what dates are those?
20 A. Those are the current dates like if -- from the
21 statement, when they do any kind of transactions.
22 Q. Okay. So would that date represent the account
23 transaction took place?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Okay. And if you go to this middle line, there's a
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1 reference, I have got my finger on it?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. EFT Federal Express?
4 A. Right.
5 Q. Salary, what is that in reference to?
6 A. The EFT is the -- it's electronic funds transfer, it's
7 her salary.
8 Q. Okay. And then you've got a notation of a withdrawal?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. And what does that mean?
11 A. That's a withdrawal that she took out on 4-15-96.
12 Q. And then if you go over to this account, this line that
13 says change to balance where my finger is?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. What information does that represent?
16 A. That is representing withdrawals, money going in and
17 out of the account.
18 Q. Okay. Does that give you the amount of a particular
19 transaction?
20 A. Yes, it does.
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if I can have one second,
22 I'm almost done.
23 THE COURT: Certainly.
24 Q. I'm going to show you another page from Collective
25 Exhibit 21. And -- now, the format of these documents is a
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1 little different. What information is in this first column
2 here on the left?
3 A. The dates -- month, date and year.
4 Q. Okay. And what do those dates signify?
5 A. Those dates signify from the whole statement, from
6 November to the end of the month, and it signifies a date that
7 a transaction has happened.
8 Q. Now, if you go over, there's a line, share draft to
9 cash disbursed, what type of transaction is that?
10 A. That's a withdrawal from her checking account.
11 Q. Okay. Now, just so we understand the way this is
12 formatted, you have got some transactions?
13 A. I can't see your finger on that.
14 Q. Okay. Am I in the way?
15 A. Okay.
16 Q. There you go. Is that better?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. Okay. You have got some transactions that have a minus
19 symbol after them, does that indicate money was coming out of
20 the account?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Okay. And when you have a transaction with no minus
23 sign behind it, for example, that $9,456.90, does that
24 represent that money came into the account?
25 A. Correct.
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1 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, sir. One second, Your
2 Honor, I'm just about done.
3 THE COURT: Certainly.
4 Q. Mr. Pruitt, when --
5 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't think my microphone
6 is working.
7 THE CLERK: It may need a new battery.
8 Q. Mr. Pruitt, does your company also lend money?
9 A. Yes, sir.
10 Q. Okay. Now, when -- if it involves mortgage and
11 mortgage interest, you report the amount of the interest to
12 the IRS?
13 A. Yes, we do.
14 MR. MURPHY: Okay. One second, Judge.
15 Judge, I don't have any further questions.
16 THE COURT: All right.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Briefly, Your Honor.
18 THE COURT: Certainly.
19 CROSS EXAMINATION
20 BY MR. BECRAFT:
21 Q. Mr. Pruitt, when was the FedEx Credit Union started, do
22 you know?
23 A. Back in 1973 -- '72, '73.
24 Q. Is it your understanding that most, perhaps all of the
25 FedEx employees are members of the Credit Union, right?
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1 A. They have the -- they can join if they're a member --
2 if they work for FedEx, they have right to join the Credit
3 Union.
4 Q. And the services that are provided by the Credit Union
5 include, you know, people can open up a savings account there?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 Q. They can have a checking account?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. They can obtain financing for homes and cars?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 Q. In this particular situation, you have been asked to
12 bring in reference -- to this particular case in reference to
13 Ms. Kuglin, you brought in basically her checking account
14 statements for a number of years?
15 A. Yes, sir.
16 Q. And those are Exhibits 21 and 22?
17 A. Yes, sir.
18 Q. And so she had an account with the FedEx Credit Union,
19 oh, throughout '96?
20 A. Yes, sir.
21 Q. '97, '98, '99, all the way up to 2001, correct?
22 A. Yes, sir.
23 Q. Did she have any savings account?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Did she have any mortgages with the company?
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1 A. That, I don't know, sir.
2 Q. Do you know anything about cars?
3 A. Yes, sir.
4 Q. Did she have any mortgages -- or did your company
5 finance any cars for her?
6 A. That, I don't know, sir.
7 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Nothing further, Your
8 Honor.
9 THE COURT: Redirect?
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
11 questions.
12 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Pruitt, thank you.
13 We will let you step down.
14 (Witness excused.)
15 THE COURT: Who else do we have?
16 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I have got some custodians,
17 but I need to talk to them.
18 THE COURT: It's fine to take a break now. I
19 think we have done pretty well. Ladies and gentlemen,
20 we're going to take our lunch break, let you come back at
21 1:30. Do not discuss the case among yourselves. Don't
22 let anybody talk with you about the case. Of course, if
23 anybody tries to, report that immediately to one of our
24 court security officers or a member of my staff or me. As
25 usual, don't speak to the parties or the lawyers in the
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1 case and, of course, don't do any research. Don't read
2 anything or look up anything that might be about this case
3 or cases like it, and continue to keep an open mind.
4 It's a short -- it's not that long of a lunch
5 break, so, of course, you can -- there are a number of
6 places to eat, and you're probably familiar with those
7 already. You can go north on the mall and south, there's
8 nothing really close, except the cafeteria. There are
9 lots of places about four or five blocks south and about
10 three and a half, four blocks north. We will see you at
11 1:30.
12 (Lunch recess taken at 12:30 to 1:35 p.m.)
13 THE COURT: If we have got everybody, we can
14 bring them in.
15 (Jury in at 1:35 p.m.)
16 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I want to alert the court,
17 I think we will be done with the government's proof today.
18 THE COURT: I understand. I have already
19 started making plans on that.
20 MR. BECRAFT: The court -- I asked a couple of
21 weeks ago --
22 THE COURT: Let's come to side bar if we're
23 going to talk about it.
24 MR. BECRAFT: Just real quick for the benefit
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2 bench.)
3 MR. BECRAFT: When I asked about jury
4 instructions? I thought you asked if we had a disk
5 available -- I have got a disk of our requested
6 instructions.
7 THE COURT: Did you give them to us?
8 MR. BECRAFT: I turned in my -- I have got it
9 with me.
10 THE COURT: If you don't ever give it to me, I
11 guarantee you I won't use it. You should have given it to
12 me at the beginning of the case.
13 MR. BECRAFT: I filed my jury instructions last
14 Friday. They were filed.
15 THE COURT: Okay. Well --
16 MR. BECRAFT: If you want the disk -- I
17 delivered it to chambers.
18 THE COURT: Don't worry about it. I have got
19 the other two materials, if you will hand the disk to Ms.
20 Saba, she will take care of it.
21 (The following proceedings were had in open
22 court.)
23 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy, who will our next
24 witness be?
25 MR. MURPHY: Our next witness is Mr. Alex
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1 Trivino.
2 THE COURT: Mr. Trevino, if you would step to
3 the podium and raise your right hand, please. That's it
4 right there. Do you swear that the testimony you are
5 about to give in this case will be the truth, the whole
6 truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
7 THE WITNESS: I do, but my last name isn't
8 Trevino, it's Rivera.
9 THE COURT: Well, good. I'm glad
10 MR. MURPHY: I'm sorry, Mr. Rivera.
11 THE COURT: Mr. Rivera, do you also make that
12 oath?
13 THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
14 THE COURT: I think they said Trevino, maybe
15 I'm wrong about that.
16 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I did. I had it written
17 down wrong.
18 THE COURT: Tell me your name again.
19 THE WITNESS: Alex Rivera.
20 THE COURT: Spell that last name. I will let
21 you get up here and we'll write it down.
22 THE WITNESS: It's R-I-V-E-R-A.
23 THE COURT: Thank you.
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1 ALEXANDER RIVERA,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Sir, would you state your name, please?
8 A. Alexander Rivera.
9 Q. And would you spell your first and last name for the
10 court reporter?
11 A. Sure. A-L-E-X-A-N-D-E-R R-I-V-E-R-A.
12 Q. And who do you work for, Mr. Rivera?
13 A. CUNA Mutual Mortgage Corporation.
14 Q. And what is that located?
15 A. That is in Madison, Wisconsin.
16 Q. Okay. And what business is C-U-N-A in?
17 A. It's a -- CUNA Mutual Mortgage is a servicing
18 corporation.
19 Q. Okay. And what is a servicing corporation?
20 A. We fund loans and we service those loans for investors.
21 THE COURT: Just for our sake, I'm going to
22 make sure I have got the spelling on the name of the
23 corporation down.
24 THE WITNESS: It's C-U-N-A, CUNA.
25 THE COURT: CUNA, okay.
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1 THE WITNESS: It stands for Credit Union
2 National Association.
3 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
4 Q. As part of your company's activities as a servicer of
5 mortgages, do you keep records of the amount of mortgage
6 interest payment?
7 A. Yes, we do.
8 Q. And did you bring some documents with you today?
9 A. Yes, I did.
10 Q. Could you give me those documents?
11 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, sir.
12 MR. BECRAFT: We won't have objections to these
13 exhibits, Your Honor, for this witness, and perhaps we
14 ought to put one sticker on all of them.
15 THE COURT: That's -- whatever suits the
16 government.
17 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I have no objection to
18 making it a cumulative exhibit.
19 THE COURT: Cumulative Exhibit 23, that's how
20 we're going to do it.
21 MR. MURPHY: Or collective.
22 THE COURT: Collective.
23 (Exhibit Number 23 was marked. Description:
24 Mortgage Documents.)
25 Q. Sir, I'm passing you a form that -- for the year 2000,
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1 what is that form?
2 A. That's mortgage interest statement, a form 1098.
3 Q. And who is it addressed to?
4 A. It's addressed to Vernice B. Kuglin.
5 Q. How do you spell her name on the form?
6 A. V-E-R-N-I-C-E B. Kuglin is K-U-G-L-I-N.
7 Q. Does that show that Ms. Kuglin paid mortgage interest
8 in the year 2000?
9 THE COURT: We're all going to work to get it
10 right, Kuglin, we keep promising to do that. We will try
11 to get it right. It is not always obvious.
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And what amount was the mortgage interest?
14 A. It is for $5,382.58 for the year 2000.
15 Q. Do you have a form for the year 2001?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And what's the amount of the mortgage interest?
18 A. $12,618,47.
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, at this time we would move
20 this into evidence as collective exhibit 23.
21 THE COURT: Received as 23.
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
23 questions.
24 THE COURT: All right.
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1 BY MR. BECRAFT:
2 Q. Briefly, you brought a number of records to show how
3 much interest had been paid by Ms. Kuglin for these two years.
4 Can I ask you some questions about your general records?
5 A. Sure.
6 Q. Okay. Did your company, what, buy a mortgage that was
7 on some real property that was owned by Ms. Kuglin?
8 A. That's correct.
9 Q. All right. And do you have a judgment or recollection
10 as to when that happened?
11 A. The date of the loan is July of 2000.
12 Q. And how much was the note that you bought?
13 A. I believe it was 156,000.
14 Q. And so some other company had mortgaged the property
15 and then your company comes along and buys that for a hundred
16 and fifty thousand?
17 A. A hundred and fifty-six.
18 Q. And that happened in June of 2000?
19 A. July.
20 Q. July of 2000. And is it still currently a valid
21 mortgage?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Still in effect?
24 A. Yes.
25 MR. BECRAFT: All right. Nothing further, Your
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1 Honor?
2 THE COURT: Redirect?
3 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
4 questions of the witness.
5 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Rivera, thanks they
6 very much. We will let you step down.
7 (Witness excused.)
8 THE COURT: Who is our next witness?
9 MR. MURPHY: It is going to be Jeanne Griffis
10 with First Tennessee, Your Honor.
11 THE CLERK: Will you please raise your right
12 hand? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about
13 to give the court and jury will be the truth, the whole
14 truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
15 THE WITNESS: I do.
16 THE CLERK: You may take the witness chair.
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1 JEANNE GRIFFIS,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please?
8 A. Jeanne Griffis.
9 Q. And would you spell your first name and last name for
10 the court reporter?
11 A. J-E-A-N-N-E G-R-I-F-F-I-S.
12 Q. Who do you work for, ma'am?
13 A. First Tennessee Bank.
14 Q. And what is your job at First Tennessee Bank?
15 A. I'm manager of legal services and ten compliance
16 departments.
17 Q. And are you the records custodian?
18 A. Yes, I am.
19 Q. Now, some inquiry was made about whether a Vernice B.
20 Kuglin had some loans with First Tennessee Bank.
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Okay. Did you check the records?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. Okay. Now, were there loans that she had with First
25 Tennessee Bank?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. Now, you weren't able to get 1098s on those loans?
3 A. Correct.
4 Q. Was that interest income reported to the IRS?
5 A. Yes, it is.
6 Q. Now, I'm going to pass you what we're going to mark as
7 a collective exhibit, Collective Exhibit 24, and can you tell
8 me what these documents are?
9 A. This is a personal statement. They're personal
10 statements, all of them for Vernice Kuglin that shows the
11 assets and liability of the customer.
12 Q. And did those come from the loan documents?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Okay. And those were made in connection with the
15 loans?
16 A. Yes.
17 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if we could have this
18 marked as a collective exhibit.
19 THE COURT: Exhibit 24.
20 (Exhibit Number 24 was marked. Description:
21 Loan Documents.)
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
23 questions for Ms. Griffis.
24 THE COURT: All right. Cross examination?
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1 BY MR. BECRAFT:
2 Q. Ms. Griffis, does your bank at the present time have a
3 mortgage on any property of Ms. Kuglin?
4 A. I don't know.
5 Q. All right. Are you familiar with some property called
6 One Main South?
7 A. No.
8 Q. How about 802 at Waterford Plaza condominium?
9 A. No, I would not be familiar with those properties.
10 Q. Has your bank at any time in the past, say, like, since
11 1990 forward held any mortgage on property owned by Vernice
12 Kuglin?
13 A. The mortgage is a separate entity. The mortgage
14 company is separate from the bank. Now, we had several loans
15 for Ms. Kuglin, but whether they were secured as a second
16 mortgage, without looking at them, I can't tell you.
17 Q. Okay. The only thing that you know about as manager of
18 legal services are these applications that we have just
19 submitted, right?
20 A. Well, I know there are loans for Ms. Kuglin or there
21 were loans, yes.
22 MR. BECRAFT: Nothing further, Your Honor.
23 THE COURT: Redirect?
24 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, I don't have any
25 further questions.
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1 THE COURT: Thank you very much.
2 (Witness excused.)
3 THE COURT: Who will our next witness be?
4 MR. MURPHY: John Scobey, Your Honor.
5 THE COURT: If you would step to the podium,
6 please, and raise your right hand.
7 THE CLERK: Will you raise your right hand,
8 please? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about
9 to give the court and the jury will be the truth, the
10 whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
11 THE WITNESS: I do.
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1 DAVID SCOBEY,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Would you state your name, please?
8 A. David Scobey.
9 Q. And would you spell your first and last name, please,
10 sir?
11 A. David, D-A-V-I-D. Last name Scobey, S-C-O-B-E-Y.
12 Q. And who do you work for, sir?
13 A. Henry Turley Company.
14 Q. Mr. Scobey, do you go by the name of John?
15 A. I do go by the name of John.
16 THE COURT: That's confusing to me.
17 THE WITNESS: Well, that's my middle name.
18 David J.
19 Q. Mr. Scobey, have you had some dealings with an
20 individual named Vernice Kuglin?
21 A. Our company has.
22 Q. And specifically why has your company had dealings with
23 Ms. Kuglin?
24 A. We sold her a condominium unit down on South Main.
25 Q. Did there come a point in time within the last couple
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1 of years where you got a summons from the Internal Revenue
2 Service requesting records having to do with Ms. Kuglin's
3 property?
4 A. Yes, we did. I believe it was in October of 2001.
5 Q. Okay. And did you call Ms. Kuglin about those records,
6 about that documents request, rather?
7 A. I called Ms. Kuglin just simply as a courtesy to let
8 her know that we had got a summons or subpoena and that I
9 thought we would have to comply.
10 Q. Okay. And what did Ms. -- what was Ms. Kuglin's
11 response to that?
12 A. Her response was that she was under the opinion that
13 the summons was faulty or not valid and that she would have
14 her lawyer contact me to, you know, to give his opinion on the
15 matter.
16 Q. Okay. Did she indicate whether you had to comply with
17 the subpoena?
18 A. Just that it was her opinion that it was faulty and I
19 would not have to comply.
20 MR. MURPHY: Okay. One second, Your Honor.
21 No further questions, Your Honor.
22 THE COURT: Cross examination?
23 CROSS EXAMINATION
24 BY MR. BECRAFT:
25 Q. Mr. Scobey, the relationship between, is it the Turley
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1 Company?
2 A. The Henry Turley company.
3 Q. The Henry Turley Company. At one time that company
4 owned some property on South Main?
5 A. It did. It still does. Actually, the company doesn't,
6 but Henry Turley, our shareholder, does.
7 Q. And it's a two-story building out here on Main Street?
8 A. That's correct.
9 Q. A couple of blocks down from this courthouse?
10 A. Correct.
11 Q. Somewhere around '92, '93, is that about the time frame
12 in which Mr. Turley sold or conveyed some interest in the
13 property to Ms. Kuglin and her son, Christopher?
14 A. It was in March of '93, we sold a unit in a condominium
15 to Ms. Kuglin.
16 Q. And so since that time, there have been periodic
17 payments made by either Ms. Kuglin or her son regarding the
18 amounts that would be owed to Mr. Turley for the purchase of
19 that property?
20 A. She had a promissory note at the closing, which she has
21 subsequently paid off, and since then, they have been paying
22 condominium maintenance fees to the condominium association,
23 which we manage.
24 Q. Well, the condominium, basically? It's a two-story
25 building, and the top story is all hers, right?
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1 A. That's correct.
2 Q. So you have a number of records that would relate to
3 this particular transaction, the purchase from Mr. Turley by
4 her of that unit that she bought in '93?
5 A. Correct.
6 Q. And so in October of 2001, somebody from the IRS got in
7 touch with you and delivered a summons wanting all of the
8 financial records regarding Mr. Turley's association or Turley
9 Company's association with Ms. Kuglin, is that correct?
10 A. That's correct.
11 Q. Did you meet Ms. Deborah White on that occasion?
12 A. I did.
13 Q. Was she the party that delivered the summons to you?
14 A. She was.
15 Q. Okay. I take it your company has done this in the
16 past? You know, the IRS comes along and asks for some
17 information, right?
18 A. Well, in my fifteen years, this was the first time.
19 Q. How often have you talked to Ms. Kuglin since she has
20 bought this property from Mr. Turley?
21 A. I've probably spoken to her two or three times. It's
22 very infrequent.
23 Q. Would it relate to this property?
24 A. It related to this property.
25 Q. Did she ever make any comments to you about taxes?
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1 A. No.
2 Q. She has never discussed her position with you about
3 federal income taxes?
4 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I object to hearsay.
5 THE COURT: Objection sustained.
6 Q. Now, on this particular occasion, when Ms. White
7 delivered the summons to you in October of 2001, you read the
8 summons over, correct?
9 A. I did.
10 Q. And do you have an in-house lawyer in the company?
11 A. No, no.
12 Q. Do you have private counsel?
13 A. Yes, we do.
14 Q. Once of the first things you did when you received the
15 summons, you picked up the phone and called Ms. Kuglin?
16 A. That's correct.
17 Q. And she had a position?
18 A. She did.
19 Q. And she believed -- at that point in time, had she seen
20 the summons?
21 A. I have no idea.
22 Q. Well, the amount of times -- was the summons delivered
23 to you personally?
24 A. It was.
25 Q. Okay. And did you provide -- before you picked up the
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1 phone, did you provide a copy of that summons to Ms. Kuglin
2 before you talked to her about it?
3 A. I don't recall.
4 Q. Okay. Well, is it likely that you -- or is it more
5 likely that you did not give her a copy of it?
6 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
7 question because I think the witness has said he doesn't
8 know.
9 THE COURT: Well --
10 MR. BECRAFT: I'll withdraw it, Your Honor.
11 THE COURT: Beyond the personal knowledge --
12 well, he has already said what he had to say about that.
13 Objection sustained.
14 Q. And when you picked up the phone and called Ms. Kuglin,
15 you said, in essence, that a summons had been requesting
16 certain financial information from the Turley Company, right?
17 A. That's correct.
18 Q. And you informed her that it was the IRS that was
19 wanting it, right?
20 A. I did.
21 Q. And she told you that -- did you tell her much about
22 the facts of the summons, how it was delivered to you, what it
23 requested?
24 A. I don't remember that I did tell her very much. She
25 indicated that similar documents had been delivered to others.
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1 Q. Okay. And she did tell you that she had a lawyer that
2 would respond, is that correct?
3 A. That he would give his opinion to me on why that she
4 didn't feel that I had to comply.
5 Q. Okay. And do you know who this lawyer was?
6 A. I believe his name was Baxley.
7 Q. From Florida?
8 A. I don't recall.
9 Q. Okay. Do you recall having received at some time
10 shortly after or within a reasonable time after October of
11 2001, that Mr. Baxley, in fact, contacted you and sent you
12 something about the summons?
13 A. He did send me a letter.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Nothing further, Your Honor.
15 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, I don't have any
16 further questions of Mr. Scobey.
17 THE COURT: Thank you. We will let you step
18 down.
19 (Witness excused.)
20 THE COURT: Who will our next witness be?
21 MR. MURPHY: Our next witness is going to be
22 Special Agent Deborah White, but I need to let a witness
23 go.
24 THE COURT: Okay.
25 MR. MURPHY: If I could have one minute.
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1 THE COURT: That's no problem.
2 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, the government calls
3 Special Agent Debbie White.
4 THE CLERK: Will you please raise your right
5 hand? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about
6 to give the court and the jury will be the truth, the
7 whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God.
8 THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
9 THE CLERK: You may take the witness chair.
10 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court, can I
11 take up one matter right now at side bar?
12 THE COURT: Sure. I'm going to ask you your
13 first name is?
14 THE WITNESS: Deborah, D-E-B-O-R-A-H, White,
15 W-H-I-T-E.
16 THE COURT: Thank you.
17 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
18 bench.)
19 MR. BECRAFT: This is not something we
20 necessarily called to the attention of the court, but, you
21 know, I haven't formally invoked the rule, but --
22 MR. MURPHY: This is the last witness.
23 MR. BECRAFT: I know, but that's --
24 THE COURT: The rule has now been invoked, it
25 wasn't invoked earlier by anybody. Now, it is invoked.
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2 the red headed lady in the back of the courtroom may be a
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4 MR. MURPHY: I'm not going to call her.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Oh, you're not?
6 MR. MURPHY: I'm not going to call her.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Sorry, Your Honor. That's okay.
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1 DEBORAH WHITE,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Plaintiff, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. MURPHY:
7 Q. Ma'am, would you state your name, please?
8 A. Deborah White. It's D-E-B-O-R-A-H W-H-I-T-E.
9 Q. Who are you employed by, Ms. White?
10 A. I'm employed by the Internal Revenue Service, criminal
11 investigation.
12 Q. In what capacity?
13 A. I'm a special agent.
14 Q. And how long have you been a special agent with the
15 Internal Revenue Service?
16 A. I have been a special agent for about nine and a half
17 years.
18 Q. Okay. Now, were you involved in the investigation of
19 Ms. Kuglin's tax situation?
20 A. Yes, I was.
21 Q. Okay. And did you do a calculation to determine
22 whether any income taxes were due and owing?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. Okay. Now, in order to do that calculation, what
25 records did you use?
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1 A. I used the IRP documents which contained -- and
2 summoned records that we got from Federal Express and Kemper
3 National Services, and that's basically it. Well, the
4 mortgage interest that she was paid -- or that she paid.
5 Q. And some of the -- did you get the mortgage interest
6 figures off of some of the 1098s that you were able to get and
7 some of it off the IRPs?
8 A. Right. I got most of the information off the IRPs.
9 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if we could set the
10 easel up, we have got a calculation.
11 THE COURT: That's fine.
12 MR. MURPHY: If the witness could come down.
13 THE WITNESS: And bring your papers with you.
14 THE COURT: It's okay also if you want to use
15 the overhead, whichever you want -- okay, you have got it
16 on chart, that's fine.
17 MR. MURPHY: Judge, we would have put it on the
18 overhead, but making it all fit is kind of hard.
19 THE COURT: That's no problem at all. But we
20 do have to let defense counsel have a chance to come
21 around to see.
22 MR. BECRAFT: I have looked at it already, Your
23 Honor.
24 THE COURT: Okay.
25 MR. BECRAFT: I do believe I have a letter size
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1 copy.
2 THE COURT: Well, I'll let them use the form
3 they have got, and we might use the letter size also as an
4 extra exhibit, so that we can more easily fit it in the
5 record.
6 MR. MURPHY: The problem with the letter size
7 one for the jury to see, they kind of have to go like
8 that.
9 THE COURT: I understand. That's no problem.
10 MR. MURPHY: It is kind of a long deal. Okay.
11 THE COURT: That may need to be lifted up. And
12 there is a way to do that. I tell you what, though, would
13 you move it around so it is a little more in the corner so
14 that I can see it and everybody has a shot at seeing it?
15 And why don't we put the letter size one on the overhead,
16 anyway, if we have got one, counsel.
17 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
18 THE COURT: Mrs. Saba, we want the letter sized
19 one on the overhead also.
20 And we probably ought to give it a number if
21 we're going to show it to the panel.
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, what if we numbered the
23 panels two separate numbers and make that a third number.
24 THE COURT: It will be 25, 26, 27.
25 (Exhibit Number 25 was marked. Description:
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1 Chart.)
2 (Exhibit Number 26 was marked. Description:
3 Chart.)
4 (Exhibit Number 27 was marked. Description:
5 Paper Copy of Charts.)
6 THE COURT: The charts are 25 and 26.
7 Q. Now, Ms. White, are these two panels that we have
8 marked Exhibits 25 and 26, are these blowups of the tax
9 calculation you prepared?
10 A. Yes, sir, they are.
11 Q. Let's start with this one first. Now, for 1996, the
12 year 1996, what did you compute Ms. Kuglin's wages as?
13 A. For 1996?
14 Q. Yes, ma'am.
15 A. The wages that she received were from Federal Ex --
16 Federal Express, and they were in the amount of $183,408.01.
17 Q. And what was the total of all wages she received in
18 1996?
19 A. $183,408.01.
20 Q. And were there any adjustments to the income?
21 A. No, there were not.
22 Q. What are adjustments to income?
23 A. Adjustments to income are those items on the front of
24 the return. They primarily deal with, like, for self-employed
25 people where you get a credit for like half a year
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1 self-employment tax, stuff like that.
2 Q. And what was the adjusted gross income?
3 THE COURT: You have the wrong one on the
4 screen. I tell you what, I'm going to take a two or
5 three-minute break, let y'all take a real short break, let
6 these folks get a little more organized and we will come
7 back. Thank you.
8 (Recess taken at 1:55 until 2:08 p.m.)
9 THE COURT: It's really easier for some jurors
10 to see the screen no matter where we put the overheads.
11 So that also lets me see it. I have a lot of trouble
12 seeing that far, just to be honest.
13 MR. MURPHY: I think if I ever have one of
14 these cases again, I'll do tax computations for everybody
15 in the courtroom, and we could --
16 THE COURT: Oh, this is fine. This is fine. I
17 just knew we needed to give you a break so we wouldn't
18 have everything falling down.
19 MR. MURPHY: I apologize.
20 THE COURT: No problem. I think we're ready to
21 go, Mr. Tuggle.
22 Are you going to move that other chart so the
23 jurors can see it a little bit? It think we're where
24 people can see now, and that's better.
25 You have a monitor over there too?
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Yes. I don't need to look at
2 that, I have a hard copy.
3 THE COURT: I understand, I understand. I
4 think we're all set, Mr. Tuggle.
5 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: All right, Judge.
6 (Jury in at 2:10 p.m.)
7 THE COURT: I hope y'all appreciate it, when
8 somebody can't see very well, nothing is more frustrating
9 for me than to try to see something and I can't see it.
10 So hopefully you're all able to see things now, it is real
11 important, and I think we're ready to proceed.
12 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor.
13 Q. Now, Ms. White, we were going through the tax
14 calculation, and basically, we're talking about what has been
15 marked as Exhibit 25, and the 1996 year, what was the adjusted
16 gross income you came up with for that year?
17 A. The adjusted gross income for 1996 was $183,408.01.
18 Q. And did you determine whether Ms. Kuglin was entitled
19 to any itemized deductions?
20 A. On the itemized deductions, yes.
21 Q. Okay.
22 A. I concluded that.
23 Q. Okay. And what was the amount of those itemized
24 deductions?
25 A. The amount of those itemized deductions was $19,351.26.
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1 Q. Was there some formula you used to determine that?
2 A. Yeah, just the -- the itemized deductions are phased
3 out after a certain income level, and so in your 1040 tax
4 booklet, there's like a little calculation sheet that you use,
5 you know, it just kind of gives you the formula for
6 determining what your deduction would be.
7 Q. And did you use that to determine the amount of
8 itemized deductions for '96, that little chart?
9 A. Yes, I did.
10 Q. Okay. And did you also determine the amount of the tax
11 exemption for Ms. Kuglin?
12 A. Yes, I did. Her exemption -- we gave her one exemption
13 for herself, and the exemption amount was $1,173.
14 Q. Did you also use some formula that was provided in the
15 1040 tax manual to determine the amount of exemption?
16 A. Yes, it it's the same type formula that's based on your
17 income.
18 Q. Okay. Now, going over to -- if we could put chart two
19 on the screen. For 1996, what was the corrected taxable
20 income?
21 A. For 1996, her corrected taxable income was $162,883.75.
22 Q. And what was -- did you compute the tax?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. And what was the tax?
25 A. The tax was $47,708.65.
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1 Q. Okay. In 1996, what was the amount of income that
2 triggered the filing requirement?
3 A. For 1996, you had to have gross income equal to or in
4 excess of $6,550 in order to have a requirement to file a
5 return.
6 Q. And what is gross income?
7 A. Gross income, it's basically all items of income from
8 whatever source derived.
9 Q. Okay.
10 A. All monies.
11 Q. Now, in order to trigger the filing requirement -- the
12 filing requirement, do you -- before you determine, do you
13 subtract the deductions and all that?
14 A. I'm sorry, go ahead.
15 Q. The filing requirement, the minimum dollars that
16 require filing --
17 A. Uh-huh.
18 Q. -- that's for what?
19 A. That's your gross income.
20 Q. Okay. Okay. And that's --
21 A. Your gross income should be equal to or greater -- if
22 it's equal to or less than that.
23 Q. Less than what?
24 A. Than the $6,550, then you're not required to file a tax
25 return.
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1 Q. Now, were there any taxes withheld from FedEx in '96,
2 according to your investigation?
3 A. In 1996?
4 Q. Yes, ma'am.
5 A. No, sir.
6 Q. Okay. Going over -- now, one more thing before we go
7 to the next year, on your initial computation, was there a
8 mistake made?
9 A. When I initially prepared our -- can I back up and
10 talk --
11 Q. Sure.
12 A. -- kind of how the process we go through?
13 Q. Yes, sir.
14 A. When we recommend prosecution when we work our
15 investigation, we go out and gather the facts. If it deems
16 that prosecution is warranted, we write up a prosecution
17 report and attach -- which is just a long narrative report
18 that reports what our findings are. Attached to that would be
19 the exhibits which are, you know, items, bank records, stuff
20 like that that we get throughout the investigation that help
21 prove our case. Anyway, we put them all together in a binder,
22 and we have an agent in -- for Memphis, he's actually located
23 in Arkansas, he reviews all our cases, and does our
24 calculations and makes sure that everything is correct, and at
25 that point, I had actually made an error on my, I think it was
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1 my exemption chart, I was supposed to round up, and I didn't
2 round at all. So that made a difference like in the taxable
3 income and all that. So he sent it -- when it came back to
4 me, I corrected it. These are the correct numbers, but I
5 forgot when I printed out the new worksheets, I didn't swap
6 them out in the exhibits. So these are the correct numbers.
7 And when my case went forward, it had the incorrect
8 calculation on the exhibits. And I think the incorrect
9 numbers were actually provided to the defense during the
10 discovery process, and we -- before we realized that I hadn't
11 swapped them out. That's kind of the error.
12 Q. But that error was corrected?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Okay. Let's talk about 1997. What wages based on your
15 investigation did Ms. Kuglin have before in 1997, and we're on
16 chart one.
17 A. Okay. Her wages for 1997 consisted of her W-2 wages
18 she received from Federal Express. Her wages for the year
19 were $172,674.37.
20 Q. Okay. And what was her corrected total income?
21 A. That same amount, $172,674.37.
22 Q. Were there any adjustments to her income?
23 A. No, sir.
24 Q. What was her adjusted gross income at that point?
25 A. Her adjusted gross income was the same amount,
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1 $172,674.37.
2 Q. Okay. And did you give her credit for itemized
3 deductions?
4 A. Yes, I did.
5 Q. In what amount?
6 A. $23,137.77.
7 Q. Were her itemized deductions limited because of her
8 income or anything like that?
9 A. Right, right.
10 Q. Okay. Did you also give her an exemption?
11 A. Yes, I did. It totaled $1,537.
12 Q. Okay. And what was her corrected taxable income?
13 A. $147,999.60.
14 Q. If we could go to page two, what was the corrected
15 taxable income for 1997?
16 A. $147,999.60.
17 Q. And what was the tax per the tax rate schedule?
18 A. $42,050.36.
19 Q. And that's -- what bracket was Ms. Kuglin in, in terms
20 of was she single or head of household?
21 A. Single.
22 Q. Single. Based on your investigation, did she have any
23 dependents at the time?
24 A. No.
25 Q. Okay. Now, in 1997, what was the minimum amount of
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1 income that triggered a filing requirement?
2 A. $6,800.
3 Q. Let's go over to 1999, page one of the chart. Did Ms.
4 Kuglin -- Ms. Kuglin receive wages from Federal Express?
5 A. Yes, she did.
6 Q. And what was the amount of the wages?
7 A. For 1998?
8 Q. Yes, ma'am.
9 A. The wages from FedEx were $164,196. She also received
10 that short-term disability pay from Kemper National Services
11 in the amount of $4,789.37.
12 Q. And what was her total adjusted gross income?
13 A. $168,985.37.
14 Q. And what were the amount of itemized deductions that
15 she received credit for?
16 A. $30,059.44.
17 Q. And were those -- the amount of those deductions
18 limited?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. And did you use the tax calculation table for that?
21 A. Yes, I did.
22 Q. Let's talk about her exemption, how many exemptions did
23 she get for 1998?
24 A. Just one for herself.
25 Q. And what was the amount of that exemption?
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1 A. $1,728.
2 Q. If we could shift over to page two. And what was Ms.
3 Kuglin's corrected taxable income for 1998?
4 A. Her corrected taxable income was $137,197.93.
5 Q. Did you determine what the amount of tax would be on
6 that amount?
7 A. Yes, I did. I used the tax rate schedule and
8 determined that it was $37,000 -- $37,848.75.
9 Q. Okay. And did Ms. Kuglin receive any credits for taxes
10 that were withheld?
11 A. Yeah, I credited back the -- when she filed the claim
12 with Kemper, when Kemper paid her, they withheld taxes from
13 her disability benefit in the amount of $1,341.03, and I
14 subtracted that.
15 Q. And what was the amount of tax due and owing per 1998,
16 according to your calculation?
17 A. It was $36,507.72.
18 Q. And I might have asked this already, what was the
19 income level that triggered the filing of a tax return in
20 1998?
21 A. $6,950.
22 Q. If we could go to page one again. I would like to talk
23 now about 1999.
24 A. Uh-huh.
25 Q. Did Ms. Kuglin receive any wages in 1999?
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1 A. In 1999, she received W-2 wages from Federal Express in
2 the amount of $172,428.80.
3 Q. Okay. And were there any adjustments to her income?
4 A. No.
5 Q. What was her adjusted gross income then?
6 A. $172,428.80.
7 Q. And did she receive -- did you give her credit for
8 itemized deductions?
9 A. Yes, I did, in the amount of $24,152.14.
10 Q. Were those deductions limited because of her income?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Okay. And did you give her an exemption?
13 A. Yes, I did. For 1999, she got $1,705 as a personal
14 exemption.
15 Q. And was that limited because --
16 A. Because of the amount of income.
17 Q. -- of the amount of income?
18 A. Uh-huh.
19 Q. If we could go over to page two. For 1999, what was
20 Ms. Kuglin's corrected taxable income?
21 A. Her corrected taxable income was $146,571.66.
22 Q. What was her tax per the tax table?
23 A. Per the tax rate schedule?
24 Q. Yes, ma'am.
25 A. It was $41,032.30.
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1 Q. And what was your computation of the tax due and owing?
2 A. The tax due and owing was $41,032.30.
3 Q. If we could go back to page one, please. Did Ms.
4 Kuglin receive wages in 2000?
5 A. Yes, she did. Again, they were just wages from FedEx
6 in the amount of $191,292.99.
7 Q. And what was her corrected total income then?
8 A. Her corrected total income was $164,000 --
9 Q. No, this is for 2000.
10 A. I'm sorry, her corrected total income, I'm sorry,
11 $191,292.99.
12 Q. And what was her adjusted gross income?
13 A. Her adjusted gross income was the same amount.
14 Q. Did you allow her any itemized deductions?
15 A. Yes, again, we allowed her the itemized deductions for
16 her mortgage interest that she paid in the amount of
17 $25,668.71.
18 Q. And were those deductions limited by the tax table or
19 the --
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Or by her income, rather?
22 A. By her income.
23 Q. And did you -- did she receive credit for an exemption?
24 A. Yes, she did. In 2000, her personal exemption was
25 $1400.
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1 Q. And, again, was that limited by her income?
2 A. Uh-huh.
3 Q. Now, if we could go over to page two. What was her
4 corrected taxable income for 2000?
5 A. For 2000, it was $164,224.28.
6 Q. And what was the tax per the tax rate schedule?
7 A. $47,171.74.
8 Q. And what was the tax due and owing based on your
9 calculation?
10 A. $47,171.74.
11 Q. Okay. And could we go back to page one, please?
12 Now, referring to 2001, did Ms. Kuglin receive any
13 wages from FedEx?
14 A. Yes, her Federal Express wages totaled $190,673.37.
15 Q. And what was her corrected total income?
16 A. $190,673.37.
17 Q. And what was her adjusted gross income?
18 A. $190,673.37.
19 Q. And there were no adjustments to income?
20 A. No.
21 Q. And what -- was Ms. Kuglin credited with itemized
22 deductions for 2001?
23 A. Yes, she was.
24 Q. And what were the amount of those deductions?
25 A. $27,976.30.
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1 Q. And was she credited with a personal exemption?
2 A. Yes, her personal exemption for 2001 was $1,508.
3 Q. What was her corrected taxable income?
4 A. $161,189.07.
5 Q. If we could go over to page two. For 2001, what was
6 Ms. Kuglin's corrected taxable income? Again, I'm going right
7 down the chart?
8 A. $161,189.07.
9 Q. And what was her tax per the tax rate schedule?
10 A. $45,036.87.
11 Q. What was her -- based on this calculation, what was her
12 tax due and owing?
13 A. $45,036.87.
14 Q. And other than the Kemper withholding in 1998, was
15 there any withholding that reduced her tax liability that you
16 were able to --
17 A. No, there was not.
18 MR. MURPHY: One second, Judge.
19 Q. One more thing. The Ms. Kuglin you investigated, and I
20 know the charts are in your way, is she in the courtroom
21 today?
22 A. Yes, she is.
23 Q. Okay. Where is she seated and what is she wearing?
24 A. She is seated between the two gentlemen with an orange
25 jacket on.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: We will stipulate she has
2 identified her, Your Honor.
3 THE COURT: The defendant has been identified,
4 and that's reflected in the record.
5 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
6 questions for Special Agent White.
7 THE COURT: Cross examination?
8 CROSS EXAMINATION
9 BY MR. BECRAFT:
10 Q. Good afternoon, Ms. White.
11 A. Good afternoon.
12 Q. I believe you testified that you had been working with
13 the IRS for the last nine and a half years, correct?
14 A. I have been a special agent for the last nine and a
15 half years. I have been employed with the IRS since 1985.
16 Q. Okay. Could I get a little bit of your educational
17 background, please?
18 A. Sure.
19 Q. Where did you go to school?
20 A. College, I have a bachelor's degree from Sam Houston
21 State University in Huntsville, Texas in criminal justice.
22 Q. Do you have an accounting background?
23 A. I have the accounting classes -- in order to become a
24 special agent with IRS, you have to have a bachelor's degree
25 and 15 hours of accounting.
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1 Q. So by the time you graduated, what, in '85, at the
2 place in Huntsville, Texas --
3 A. No, I graduated in '90. It was on an extended plan.
4 Q. I see. So you went to work for the IRS in '85?
5 A. I went to work for the IRS in '85, and I was in college
6 in the evening and --
7 Q. Okay. Good enough. But that was in criminal justice?
8 A. Right.
9 Q. You apparently obviously had designs on being a special
10 agent, is that correct?
11 A. That's correct.
12 Q. And -- but your college courses didn't deal anything
13 with necessarily tax and accounting, did it?
14 A. My -- I mean I took tax and accounting courses at
15 college, if that's what you are talking about.
16 Q. Okay. Good enough. Now, those courses involved going
17 to like a class in the evening, you said you were -- so you
18 might go Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Tuesdays and Thursdays
19 or some such, you might go and sit in the class for several
20 hours, correct?
21 A. Right.
22 Q. To learn accounting and tax?
23 A. Right.
24 Q. Okay. Now, since you have been working for the IRS,
25 have you gone to specialized schools that relate to accounting
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1 and taxes?
2 A. When you get hired as a special agent, you attend the
3 federal law enforcement training center down in -- it is in
4 Brunswick -- Glynco, Georgia. I was down there for like six
5 months.
6 Q. And did you learn more about taxes down there?
7 A. Yeah, that school -- that six-month school, it is split
8 up into three different schools. One is criminal investigator
9 training, one is tax, and the other is special agent
10 investigative techniques.
11 Q. I want to get an idea about how much study -- you
12 obviously recognize this, I hold in my hand, 1986 Internal
13 Revenue Code printed in 1994, right?
14 A. Right.
15 Q. And throughout this trial, Mr. Murphy -- oh, no, that's
16 not -- but you had here in the courtroom Internal Revenue
17 codes and other tax information with you, correct?
18 A. Yeah.
19 Q. Okay. Now, the courts that you have taken in special
20 agent -- I think you said you went down to Glynco, Georgia and
21 had at least a six-month course on tax?
22 A. No, I said that we had -- it was split into three
23 different courses. The criminal investigator training is the
24 first, you know, five or six weeks, and that basically teaches
25 you about the law. Basically, all federal agents within the
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1 Treasury Department and other -- I think the only ones that
2 don't go there are FBI agents and DEA agents, the rest of them
3 all attend that -- everybody takes that class. And then we
4 had a tax class and then we had -- we finished out with the
5 special agent investigative techniques, which is the course
6 that teaches you how to do the IRS special agent job.
7 Q. All right. And since you have been to Glynco, that
8 would be sometime maybe the late 1980s, early 1990s?
9 A. I got out in -- I went down there in January of '94,
10 and I got out in June, July.
11 Q. Okay. And since you got out of that course, have you
12 had, you know, kind of refresher courses or continuing
13 education courses that relate to tax?
14 A. We have -- every year, we have a continuing
15 professional education that's put on, by -- in the criminal
16 investigation area, and we roughly have it every year. I mean
17 if there's updates that, you know, we need to be, you know
18 aware of, or whatever, there would probably be a course
19 presented on that. But generally, the cases that we work
20 aren't current year cases, they're usually -- we have to give
21 you time to file or not file, or, you know, so it is --
22 they're usually prior years.
23 Q. Now, would you disagree with me when I say that the
24 study of federal income taxes is complicated?
25 A. Sure.
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1 Q. Now, in addition to knowing something about -- we don't
2 have your copy of the Internal Revenue Code here, but you use
3 books like this in your regular work, right, the Internal
4 Revenue Code?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. And it's this thick?
7 A. I don't know, we have a bunch of them, I don't know
8 that we necessarily have that same one.
9 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, could we approach?
10 THE COURT: You may.
11 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
12 bench.)
13 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
14 cross. I mean how thick the book is and all this stuff,
15 he's not asking about the tax calculation.
16 MR. BECRAFT: She has been tendered as an
17 expert.
18 THE COURT: She was entered as a special agent
19 with knowledge about how to calculate taxes.
20 MR. BECRAFT: That's what she did, and I --
21 THE COURT: You might want to turn your mic
22 off. But she has not been presented as a legal expert,
23 has she?
24 MR. MURPHY: Well, all she is presented for is
25 to do tax calculation.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: She has had training, Your Honor,
2 I just simply want to know --
3 MR. MURPHY: You still don't have it off.
4 MR. BECRAFT: All I wanted to do, Your Honor,
5 was to show -- I think the jury is entitled to know, she
6 has testified similar to an expert, and all I'm doing is
7 trying to draw out how much training she has had on the
8 Internal Revenue Code and how complex the law is. I think
9 that's fair, because she has drawn legal conclusions, she
10 has testified like an expert.
11 THE COURT: What about it?
12 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't think she is
13 drawing a legal conclusion. She said I did this
14 calculation. In fact, I didn't ask her whether Ms. Kuglin
15 had the file. All I asked was what was the limit that
16 year. I mean I --
17 THE COURT: Well, I mean she had fairly
18 limited -- you're outside the scope under 611, that's
19 pretty fair.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
21 THE COURT: And I think we probably ought to go
22 ahead.
23 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
24 THE COURT: No problem.
25 (The following proceedings were had in open
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1 court.)
2 MR. BECRAFT: Can we use the charts or do you
3 need to see something on the screen and ask you questions
4 about it?
5 THE COURT: You can use the charts. It is
6 probably not a bad idea to put it on the screen too. The
7 screen helps us know for sure where you are. It's a
8 little different than the chart. The chart lets you see
9 it. The screen, you can point out and say this is where I
10 am, and we can't miss it then.
11 MR. BECRAFT: I think I will stroll over here
12 myself, and can I use my copy?
13 THE COURT: Sure, that's fine.
14 Q. Now, you drafted this document up in order to calculate
15 how much she owed in the way of taxes, that's the ultimate
16 bottom line?
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. And to get there, you have got to calculate how much
19 Ms. Kuglin made, correct?
20 A. Right.
21 Q. And -- but then in order to arrive at and create this
22 chart, you have to have at least some knowledge, a good
23 working knowledge of the tax laws, correct?
24 A. Yeah.
25 Q. Now, you have a line here, you know, on one of these
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1 charts. When you compute the taxable income, you took all of
2 these figures here for '96 through 2001, all of these reported
3 figures here, they're based on the evidence that we obtained
4 from FedEx, correct?
5 A. Correct.
6 Q. The 1099s or W-2?
7 A. W-2s.
8 Q. Okay. For these years, and these are the figures that
9 came from there, correct?
10 A. Yeah.
11 Q. Okay. Now, down at bottom after you go through several
12 calculations, you have this corrected taxable income and you
13 have the various figures for the various years, correct?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. And in order to arrive at that figure, you have to use
16 the Internal Revenue Code, consult certain sections, is that
17 correct, Section 61, 62, 63?
18 A. Yeah. Well, actually, you know, this return is just
19 itemized deductions and her exemptions, I mean you can get all
20 that information from the tax booklet that they mail to you.
21 Q. You have used your overall broad knowledge of tax laws
22 in order to devise and create this chart, is that true?
23 A. Yeah.
24 Q. Okay. But in order to make -- come up with corrected
25 taxable income, either from a booklet like the 1040 booklet or
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1 from the tax code itself, there's an interrelationship between
2 Section 61, 62, 63 to arrive at something called taxable
3 income, correct?
4 A. Uh-huh.
5 Q. And you also, to deal with the, you know, moving up the
6 line here to adjusted gross income, in order to calculate
7 corrected taxable income, you take adjusted gross income and
8 you deal with itemized deductions, correct?
9 A. Correct.
10 Q. And the tax code itself deals with itemized deductions,
11 right?
12 A. Okay.
13 Q. And can you tell us off the top of your head -- I think
14 you have limited it primarily in reference to this particular
15 case, the itemized deductions primarily to interest payments,
16 correct?
17 A. Right.
18 Q. Off the top of your head, can you tell us what section
19 of the code that would relate to taking that as an itemized
20 deduction?
21 A. Off the top of my head, no, I couldn't.
22 Q. Now, I'm going to flip over to the other chart here,
23 the one where you calculate the tax due and owing. Let's take
24 a look at the year 1998, you have taxes withheld of $1,300, is
25 that correct?
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1 A. That's correct.
2 Q. That's an adjustment as to the aggregate ultimate tax
3 liability that is dealt with in this case, right?
4 A. Right.
5 Q. Somehow, some way, we have got to -- there was the
6 $1,300 that was withheld in '98. Okay, can you tell us the
7 section of the Internal Revenue Code that would allow somebody
8 to have credit for withheld taxes?
9 A. You know -- no, off the top of my head, no, I'm sorry,
10 I don't know the exact code, but I do know this.
11 Q. Okay.
12 A. That -- she didn't have any wages -- I mean she didn't
13 have any federal income tax held withheld from her salary, and
14 so when we do our calculations if we have -- normally, if -- I
15 guess if people file tax returns and maybe they didn't report
16 all their income, we give them credit for the tax that they
17 did pay. So under normal circumstances, we would give them
18 credit for any taxes that they would have reported and paid on
19 their return. In this case, there were no returns filed, so
20 there was no tax paid. The only tax that was actually
21 withheld was that $1,300 from Kemper.
22 Q. All right.
23 A. So I'm giving her credit for it.
24 Q. I understand that, but my question was, it should be a
25 simple matter, can you tell us with which section deals with
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1 giving a credit for withheld taxes?
2 A. Off the top of my head, no, I don't know what -- I mean
3 if I had a question about it, I could look it up, I suppose
4 but, no, I don't have tall of those codes memorized.
5 Q. How about Section 31, does that kind of refresh your
6 recollection, would that -- credit for tax withheld?
7 A. I'm sorry.
8 Q. Okay. One moment, Your Honor. You have also given
9 testimony that -- I didn't write them all down, but you --
10 when Mr. Murphy was asking you questions, he asked you about
11 what the threshold amount was for each year for filing?
12 A. Uh-huh.
13 Q. I wrote them down -- I didn't write them all down, but
14 I think you said 6500 or 6550 for 1996.
15 A. 6550, right.
16 Q. In '97, it was 6800, right?
17 A. '96 is 6800.
18 Q. Let's forget all the other figures, but you rattled
19 them all, is that correct?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Now, is the filing requirement, that provision, do you
22 find it in the law?
23 A. Do you have to file a return?
24 Q. Well, yes.
25 A. I mean I think it's 6011.
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1 Q. Okay.
2 A. That says that you must make a return if your gross
3 income exceeds the exemption amount.
4 Q. Now, you mentioned 6011, are you familiar with Section
5 6001?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Okay. Is it your understanding that at least two laws
8 that relate to the filing of income tax returns are Section
9 6001 and 6011 of the Internal Revenue Code?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. And did you consult -- in your testimony, when you gave
12 these figures right here, you know, these are the filing
13 requirement. Did you actually look up the law to determine it
14 or did you do something like consult an instruction booklet?
15 A. No, actually, we -- I did look at the instruction
16 booklet, because it's right there, it is available, you can
17 download them off the internet, and, yes, I looked at the
18 instruction booklet, but I have since, you know, looked at the
19 code too.
20 Q. Okay. Do you know whether or not that -- you know, the
21 figures that you used, if you make so much money, if you make
22 6500, if you make 6800 in '97 or if you make 6950 in '98,
23 whether or not in Section 6001 or 6011 of the Internal Revenue
24 Code that you will find that type of information?
25 A. I don't know that it says the exact dollar amount, but
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1 it does say about the exemption and all.
2 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I believe that's all.
3 THE COURT: Redirect.
4 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, I don't -- well, since
5 it came up.
6 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
7 BY MR. MURPHY:
8 Q. Would you go through what the dollar amounts were that
9 required filing of the tax return for each of the six years?
10 A. Okay. In 1996, if you were single and under the age of
11 65 and your gross income exceeded $6,550, you were required to
12 file an income tax return.
13 Q. Okay.
14 A. In 1997, if you were a single person under the age of
15 65 and your gross income exceeded $6,800, you were required to
16 file a federal income tax return for that year.
17 In 1998, for a single person under the age of 65, the
18 amount was increased to $6,950. So if your gross income was
19 in excess of that -- equal to or in excess of that, you were
20 required to file an income tax return.
21 1999, that amount was increased to $7,050. 2000, that
22 amount was increased to $7,200, and in 2001, the amount was
23 $7,450.
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any further
25 questions.
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1 THE COURT: Thank you. We will let you step
2 down.
3 (Witness excused.)
4 THE COURT: Will there be any other witnesses
5 for the United States?
6 MR. MURPHY: Judge, there'll be no other
7 witnesses, and at this point the government rests with the
8 exception we would ask Your Honor to take judicial notice
9 of the fact that Memphis-Shelby County, Tennessee is
10 within the Western Judicial District of Tennessee.
11 THE COURT: I will take judicial notice of
12 that. Of course, ladies and gentlemen, we can only take
13 judicial notice for something that's so obvious that all
14 of us know, and it is obvious that Memphis and Shelby
15 County is within the Western District of Tennessee.
16 All right. We're going to take about a
17 ten-minute break, and I'm going to see where we're going
18 next, and then we will let you know. So I'm going to take
19 a ten-minute break, we're going to stay out here and work,
20 and we will let you know at the end where we're
21 proceeding. See you in ten minutes.
22 (Jury out at 2:47.)
23 THE COURT: Anything from the defense?
24 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor, under Rule 29
25 real quick, and then we might require maybe about five
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1 minutes to move some exhibits around and get them in --
2 Ms. Kuglin up there on the stand and then have a way of
3 digging out her --
4 THE COURT: Sure. Mrs. Saba, let's move those
5 things out of the center of the well while we're doing
6 that.
7 Yes, sir.
8 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, on -- on my motion, I
9 just -- I will make this real short, sweet and simple.
10 There are three elements the government has got to prove.
11 One is willfulness. You know, this has been an extremely
12 short case. The government has shown, one, that there was
13 a '92 return filed, then there are no returns filed for
14 the years in question. There has been some withholding
15 and then there has been no withholding. We have had proof
16 regarding what the gross amount of wages were, we just
17 completed the calculation of the tax, but it seems like to
18 me that the government has got to have at least a
19 scintilla of something more to show that she had that evil
20 animus, that malignant intent, that bad motive -- I won't
21 add any more adjectives, Your Honor, but you know one of
22 the things about this case is there is something missing
23 regarding intent. And I think that an evasion case has
24 got to be stronger than we have seen here. It has been
25 all paper, not even a letter from the defendant. That's
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1 it, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy?
3 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, the proof established
4 several things. The proof established that she had
5 taxable income. The proof established that her income was
6 above the levels that required filing. The proof in --
7 and it was one of the exhibits they introduced from
8 Federal Express that, frankly, we didn't have that and
9 FedEx never gave us, but that -- in 1995, she claimed an
10 exempt status. If you look at the W-4, it -- in order to
11 be exempt, you have to be entitled to a refund of all your
12 prior year tax liability and -- or all your taxes and
13 don't incur any tax liability for the future year. That
14 was not a true statement. Based on the evidence the
15 government put forth, that was not a true statement. Now,
16 at this point she hasn't made that defense, and once she
17 gets up there, we have got to come up with some evidence
18 that rebuts it either through cross examination or
19 whatever, but there was also proof she filed in '93.
20 There was proof that '92 -- there was proof that notices
21 have been sent to her, that she had been subject to IRS
22 levies. And we would submit, Judge -- granted, it's a
23 quick case, but the government shouldn't be penalized for
24 being efficient. And there is also the comment of Mr.
25 Scobey that you don't have to comply with the IRS summons.
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1 THE COURT: Well, certainly, the law and all
2 inferences are taken in favor of the government in the
3 context of this motion for this purpose, and the court
4 doesn't make any determinations on credibility questions
5 or anything like that, and so, therefore, the defense
6 motion is denied.
7 Is the defendant ready to proceed and do you
8 want a couple of minutes?
9 MR. BECRAFT: If we could have seven or eight,
10 maybe ten minutes, maybe the afternoon break will be
11 sufficient and then we would have --
12 THE COURT: Go ahead and tell the jury then,
13 Mrs. Saba, we're going to take our afternoon break at this
14 time. We are going to come back and we do anticipate the
15 defense -- are you going to put on some proof?
16 MR. BECRAFT: This afternoon, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: Okay.
18 MR. BECRAFT: I just need to --
19 THE COURT: Only for the purpose of advising
20 the jury.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Yeah.
22 THE COURT: And we will come back and there
23 will be some additional testimony, so we will add ten
24 minutes to our break, and this is our afternoon break.
25 See you in ten minutes.
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1 THE CLERK: All rise.
2 (Recess taken at 2:52 until 3:06 p.m.)
3 THE COURT: Bring the jury in.
4 (Jury in at 3:06 a.m.)
5 THE COURT: Let me see counsel at side bar.
6 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
7 bench.)
8 THE COURT: Do you have any objections to
9 the -- to any of the ones submitted by defense, the
10 instructions?
11 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I have got objections to
12 talking about the Paperwork Reduction Act and all that,
13 because that has been rejected by all the courts
14 uniformly. I have an objection to the stuff about the
15 Anti-Injunction Act because they can go -- they have got
16 avenues of -- Judge, if you want to stay tonight, I mean I
17 have got written down what is the problem.
18 THE COURT: There's no objection to using
19 quotes from Bishop, are there? I take it that is not a
20 problem.
21 MR. MURPHY: If that's what the Supreme Court
22 said, I'm stuck with it, Judge.
23 THE COURT: All right.
24 MR. BECRAFT: Thanks, Judge.
25 (The following proceedings were had in open
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1 court.)
2 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court, the
3 defendant calls the defendant, Vernice Kuglin.
4 THE COURT: Would you raise your right hand,
5 please? Do you swear that the testimony you are about to
6 give in this case will be the truth, the whole truth and
7 nothing but the truth, so help you god?
8 THE WITNESS: To the best of my ability, Your
9 Honor, yes, sir.
10 THE COURT: I have never had somebody say that,
11 so let's talk with counsel and see if that's okay.
12 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
13 bench.)
14 MR. BECRAFT: I will simply tell her to say yes
15 or no, Judge.
16 MR. MURPHY: I think she has got to swear or
17 affirm, I don't think --
18 THE COURT: I think it's I do or I so swear or
19 I affirm or I do.
20 MR. BECRAFT: I will tell her to affirm, Judge,
21 I think that may be the problem.
22 THE COURT: Well, I'll ask her again and we
23 will see what the answer is. I had somebody one time
24 who -- what did that lady say? It wasn't in your case, I
25 had a lady who said I swam. She didn't say I swear, it
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1 was I swam. It was a culture thing where she didn't want
2 to swear, so we talked about it, and what she wanted to do
3 was affirm.
4 (The following proceedings were had in open
5 court.)
6 THE COURT: Sometimes individuals wants to
7 affirm and not swear, and I usually ask them in advance do
8 you wish to affirm or do you wish to swear, it doesn't
9 matter.
10 THE WITNESS: I can swear.
11 THE COURT: Okay. Well, then, raise your hand
12 and I'll swear you again so we're all clear. Do you swear
13 that the testimony you are about to give in this case will
14 be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth,
15 so help you God?
16 THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
17 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
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1 VERNICE KUGLIN,
2 was thereupon called as a witness on behalf of the
3 Defendant, and having been first duly sworn, was
4 examined and testified as follows:
5 DIRECT EXAMINATION
6 BY MR. BECRAFT:
7 Q. Will you state your name, please?
8 A. Yes, and I will state it correctly. My name is Vernice
9 Braendli Kuglin.
10 Q. Okay. I'm sure the court reporter would like it
11 spelled.
12 A. It is spelled V, as in Victor, E-R-N-I-C-E. Middle
13 name is B, as in boy, R-A-E-N-D-L-I. My last name is Kuglin,
14 K-U-G-L-I-N.
15 Q. You heard your name pronounced a multitude of different
16 ways in the courtroom. Your last name is Kuglin, correct?
17 A. That's correct.
18 Q. You're the defendant?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Have been throughout this whole trial?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Could you tell the jury a little bit about yourself,
23 about where you were born, where you grew up, a little bit
24 about your schooling?
25 A. I was born in Nigeria, West Africa.
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1 Q. Okay. Let me stop you right there. Who are your
2 parents?
3 A. My parents were Teckla and Carl Kuglin.
4 Q. Were they American citizens?
5 A. Yes, they were. My father was born and raised in
6 Kansas. He was a first generation American, and my mother was
7 born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. She was also first
8 generation.
9 Q. All right. And what was your -- how was your father
10 employed at the time you were born?
11 A. He was a missionary. He worked for the Sudan United
12 Mission, and after I was born, he registered my birth with the
13 United States Consul in Nigeria.
14 Q. Bring us quickly, if you can, up until about your mid
15 teens, about what you did, where you lived, where you went to
16 school.
17 A. Well, at the age of six -- let me back up a little bit.
18 When I was born, as I said, we were in Nigeria, I was born in
19 a mission hospital, and I grew up out in what we call the
20 bush. It was -- we had a thatch roof house, mud block, no
21 running water, no electricity, the kitchen was about fifty
22 yards from the house, it had a tin roof, and the outhouse was
23 about a hundred yards from the house. So I grew up in a
24 pretty primitive environment or conditions, but it was a life
25 that I learned to love. At age five, I was given
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1 anti-malarial drug, with Aspirin, I was paralyzed, and my
2 parents brought me home to the states where I went to Mayo
3 Clinic for some treatment. Went back out to Africa, and was
4 then -- at age six, I went off to boarding school. Now, all
5 of the missionary children in Nigeria lived in boarding
6 school, and this was 400 miles from where my parents lived,
7 and we lived there nine months out of the year. When I came
8 back to the states again in my fifth grade, went to school in
9 Kansas, and then again when I was a freshman in high school.
10 Q. All right. And when was it you entered high school?
11 A. I entered high school in 1961, this was in Kansas.
12 Q. Did you complete high school?
13 A. Yes and no. I did three years of high school, and I
14 had all -- I had taken all the credits that were available,
15 and so I went on to college out of my junior year of high
16 school because college only required -- it required fewer
17 credits than it was necessary to graduate. So I went on to
18 college through -- from my junior year.
19 Q. Give us an approximate range of the years in which you
20 were in school, '65, '66 through whatever?
21 A. It was about '6 -- let's see, '63 through about '66,
22 and in 1966, I dropped out of college.
23 Q. Okay. And did you seek employment after that?
24 A. Yes, I did.
25 Q. What was that?
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1 A. I had always dreamed of being a flight attendant, and
2 so I went down to Dallas, and I interviewed with Braniff. At
3 that time, Braniff was in its heyday. They had come out with
4 the new Braniff strip, and it was, you know, it was the
5 airlines to fly for. I did not get hired by Braniff, and so I
6 ended up working at Texas Instruments on the assembly line at
7 nighttime, and then later I did door-to-door encyclopedia
8 sales work, a job that I'm glad I'm not doing now. Later on
9 in that year, I decided to go back to Braniff to interview
10 again, and I was hired as a flight attendant, and I stayed
11 with Braniff from 1966 through '69. In March of '67, I
12 transferred out to Travis Air Force Base, and I flew the
13 military contract flights flying troops into Vietnam.
14 Q. About this time frame, '68, '69, did you meet somebody
15 and get married to them?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 Q. Was that a long marriage?
18 A. No, that was a rather short marriage.
19 Q. Okay. As a result, did you have a son born to you?
20 A. Yes, I did. My son Christopher was born, and when he
21 was two months old, his father and I separated.
22 Q. Okay. And when was that?
23 A. That was in 1969.
24 Q. All right. What employment have you had since you --
25 since 1969 and had your son?
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1 A. Oh, let's see, I have done many things. I have worked
2 for the Welfare department. I've been a waitress. I've been
3 a kitchen help. I have been a secretary. I have been a file
4 clerk. I was a book manager for a library, and I guess that
5 covers that range.
6 Q. Okay. And how long was that that you were doing those
7 types of jobs?
8 A. Well, that was until about '78.
9 Q. And where were you living at that time?
10 A. I was living in Baleo, California, Fairfield,
11 California.
12 Q. Did you get a job in 1978 that had something to do with
13 airplanes?
14 A. Actually, what I did, in 1975, Emily Wurner had been
15 hired by Western. She was the first woman to be allowed to
16 fly for the commercial carriers, and I was looking for a
17 career so that I would be able to support my son, put him
18 through college and such, and a friend of mine suggested that
19 I might take pilot training.
20 Q. And did you?
21 A. Yes, I did. So I went down to the local Nappa County
22 Airport, and I started taking my flying lessons. I got my
23 private license there, and the same friend had gotten then
24 hired by American Airlines and had moved to Dallas. So he
25 told me that if I would come down to Dallas that he would --
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1 and bring along a certain amount of money that he would
2 continue my flying lessons. So I left my son with his father
3 and went to Dallas. Unfortunately, Alex could not -- did not
4 have time to give me the flying lessons, but I ended up taking
5 flight training at Beecham Field there in Fort Worth where I
6 got my commercial, my instrument and my multi-engine rating.
7 Q. Did there come a time --
8 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we approach?
9 THE COURT: You may.
10 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
11 bench.)
12 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I know that counsel wants
13 to get as much personal to give the jury some personal
14 context, but this is just irrelevant.
15 MR. BECRAFT: I'll speed it up, Judge.
16 THE COURT: Okay.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
18 (The following proceedings were had in open
19 court.)
20 Q. Ms. Kuglin, listen to my question, can you tell us
21 about -- where are you employed now?
22 A. I'm currently on a personal leave of absence from
23 Federal Express.
24 Q. Okay. And how long have you been working for FedEx?
25 A. I have been working for FedEx since 1985.
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1 Q. All right. Where were you working before that?
2 A. I was working for Royal Airlines in Shreveport,
3 Louisiana.
4 Q. And what were you doing for Royal Airlines?
5 A. I was flying their airplanes. I was first a co-pilot
6 and then a captain on the Beech 99 and then on the Bondarondi
7 (spelled phonetically).
8 Q. So you moved from Royal to FedEx?
9 A. Yes, I did.
10 Q. So when did you start to work for Royal?
11 A. I started to work for Royal, that was after my
12 employment as a corporate pilot in Lafayette, Louisiana, so
13 that was in 1980 -- '80, '81.
14 Q. So you were -- before Royal, you were flying also?
15 A. Oh, yes. I flew corporate in Lafayette, Louisiana for
16 an oil company for six months, and prior to that I had been
17 instructing for two years. After I received all my ratings, I
18 instructed for two years. I flew sky divers on the weekend to
19 build time, and those were my aviation jobs. Trying to build
20 my time so that I could get hired by FedEx.
21 Q. So the late '70s, you were training?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Flying sky divers, then you went to work for a company
24 as a corporate pilot?
25 A. Yes.
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1 Q. And then you moved from, I guess, '80 or '81 to '85,
2 you were flying as a pilot for Royal?
3 A. Royal, right.
4 Q. And then FedEx?
5 A. And then FedEx. And my son -- I had mentioned earlier
6 that I had left my son with his father, but that was only for
7 a year. So during this time that I was building time, my son
8 was with me, and we moved around quite a bit.
9 Q. When was it that you moved to Memphis?
10 A. I moved to Memphis in June -- excuse me, June of '85.
11 Q. And you have lived here ever since?
12 A. Yes, I have.
13 Q. And for the last -- since 1989, have you lived in a
14 very specific spot in Memphis?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. What's the address?
17 A. I have lived at 200 Wagner Place, number 802, Memphis
18 Tennessee. It's right on the corner of Beale Street and
19 Wagner place.
20 Q. Ms. Kuglin, did -- have you read the indictment in this
21 case?
22 A. Yes, I have.
23 Q. You heard the -- you understand the indictment, right?
24 A. Yes, I do.
25 Q. It charges you with six counts of tax evasion?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. You heard Ms. Osborne come from the service center, and
3 she gave testimony in this case, and you sat right over there
4 and listened to it, correct?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. She said you didn't file returns from --
7 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't believe commenting
8 on other witness' testimony is proper, and I'm going to
9 object.
10 THE COURT: Objection sustained.
11 Q. Ms. Kuglin?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Let me back up, and I'll ask you this: When was it
14 that you started filing returns?
15 A. First job I had ever had was A&W Root Beer in Holton,
16 Kansas, and that would have been 1960, '61 when we first came
17 back from Africa.
18 Q. Do you have a recollection as to when it was you filed
19 your first tax return?
20 A. I would presume that it was probably -- although that
21 may have been with -- on my parents, so I don't know exactly
22 when the first return was filed.
23 Q. If somebody said '65, would you disagree with them?
24 A. Oh, no, not at all.
25 Q. And did you file returns in the late '60s, early 70's
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1 all the way up into the '80's.
2 A. Oh, yes, I did.
3 Q. Okay. Did you file returns in '91, '92?
4 A. I did.
5 Q. Why were you filing those returns during those years
6 that I have just named off?
7 A. Because I thought that I was required to.
8 Q. And was that based on any study of the law?
9 A. Oh, no, not at all.
10 Q. Did you ever prepare for these years, '65 through about
11 '91, '92, did you prepare your own returns?
12 A. Some of them, I did.
13 Q. All right. Did there come a time in which you had
14 others prepare your returns?
15 A. Yes, H & R Block did some of my returns. I had an
16 accountant here in Memphis do some of my returns.
17 Q. If we had -- I don't know the exhibit number, but you
18 have looked at the '92 return that the government has offered
19 into evidence, correct?
20 A. That's correct.
21 Q. There's an accountant listed on there as a return
22 preparer, right?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And that's Mr. Knapp?
25 A. That's correct.
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1 Q. He prepared your '92 return?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Did he prepare some of your returns before that time?
4 A. I believe he did, yes.
5 Q. For a number of years, whatever amount. Okay.
6 Have you ever attended any courses on tax all the way
7 up through about '91 or '92?
8 A. Not at all.
9 Q. Had you ever looked at the Internal Revenue Code?
10 A. I didn't even know what it looked like.
11 Q. Okay. Let me go straight to the matter, for the years,
12 '93, '94, '95, '96 through 2001, Ms. Kuglin, did you or did
13 you not file federal income tax returns?
14 A. No, I did not.
15 Q. Why?
16 A. For the last ten years, I have been asking the IRS
17 either through my own letters, through visits to the IRS and
18 finally through an attorney what section of the Internal
19 Revenue Code makes me liable for the individual income tax and
20 what law requires me to file the Form 1040. And to this day,
21 I have not had my questions answered, and so I decided then.
22 Q. When was it that you started changing your beliefs
23 regarding the filing of income tax returns?
24 A. Well, the journey that got me to this point to where we
25 are today actually started in 1992.
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1 Q. What happened then?
2 A. I was between flights, and as anybody who works for the
3 airlines or sales people, people who are gone, that when you
4 get home, there's a lot of mail, a lot of housework, a lot of
5 everything to do, and so I was cleaning house and turned on
6 C-Span, as you heard Mr. Becraft say earlier.
7 Q. Can I stop you right there?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. You said -- I brought up something with the jury, can
10 you kind of describe what you do, your daily routine when
11 you're flying for FedEx?
12 A. Oh, yes, I can.
13 Q. All right.
14 A. The routine is different. We as pilots bid every month
15 for the routings that we want to fly, and based on seniority
16 and what we can hold in the seniority level, then we have a
17 different schedule every month. Some of the schedules entail
18 getting up in the middle of the night, flying to the
19 destination, sleeping in the hotels all day, coming back into
20 Memphis at midnight that night and going back out again.
21 That's what we call the infamous hub terms. Those are the
22 flights going in and out every night. Other flights leave
23 Memphis around 2:30 in the morning, go to a destination, sit
24 for a few hours and then back into Memphis. Other flights are
25 international flights which are 15-day flights where we're
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1 gone a long period of time, and I did those flights when I was
2 a co-pilot and flight engineer predominantly. So every month,
3 the schedule is different, but we're away from home probably
4 anywhere from 200 to 400 hours a month.
5 Q. And basically while we're sleeping, you're working?
6 A. Basically.
7 Q. Now, sometime in 1992, I interrupted you a minute ago,
8 you were saying something about you were doing something at
9 home when something came to your attention about something,
10 taxes?
11 A. Yes, I was cleaning house, and I listen to the TV so I
12 can get things done, and I would on C-Span, and on C-Span that
13 day, they were covering the Libertarian National Convention,
14 it was in July of '92. And I had never heard of the word
15 Libertarian before. I had no idea what it meant. I had no
16 idea there was a political party called the Libertarian Party.
17 So it caught my interest, and there two gentlemen, Andre Maru
18 (spelled phonetically) Dick Body (spelled phonetically) who
19 were vying for the nomination for the presidential candidate,
20 and as I listened to the debates between these two gentlemen,
21 I started hearing things that I had never heard the other two
22 parties talk about. I had been member of both the Republican
23 and the Democrat parties at different times, but these
24 gentlemen were discussing the Constitution, they were
25 discussing the role of government in society and they were
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1 discussing also taxes. And I found it so interesting and so
2 novel that I had never heard any of this stuff before that I
3 called the 800 number and asked them to send me some
4 information and anybody who might -- I might contact in the
5 local area. So I got the information. Excuse me. And they
6 referred me, excuse me, to a gentleman by the name of Don
7 Winfield. Don Winfield at that time was the chairman of the
8 Tennessee State Libertarian party, and he was conducting
9 meetings here in Memphis. So I went to the meeting. It was a
10 small group, and I asked them basically what a Libertarian was
11 or what the word meant, what the philosophy was, and I learned
12 at that time that there were really two words, there were the
13 big L -- there was the big L for Libertarian, which was the
14 political move, and then there was the little l Libertarian,
15 which was the philosophy of the Libertarian movement, and I
16 found out from that that the Libertarian philosophy was
17 basically the same philosophy of the founding fathers, the
18 philosophy that generated the Bill of Rights, the Constitution
19 and the Declaration of Independence, and this philosophy was
20 that in a civil society the initiation of force and the
21 initiation of fraud are not acceptable activities, that we as
22 citizens are absolutely responsible for our actions and we are
23 required to also hold those in power responsible for their
24 actions. I also learned that the role of government in a
25 society is to protect the rights of life, liberty and the
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1 pursuit of happiness for people.
2 Q. Now, this -- so you became interested in the
3 Libertarian party as a result of hearing this on the TV and
4 meeting Mr. Winfield?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Can you just briefly tell the jury what was your
7 association with the Libertarian party from that point until
8 about '95 or '96, just what you did?
9 A. Okay. Let's see. I was elected chairman. The state
10 Libertarian party, the first meeting that I went to, they were
11 looking for somebody and I was interested and I thought it
12 would be good learning the information about the Libertarian
13 party. I was also directed to an organization called the
14 advocates for self-government, and the advocates are located
15 in Atlanta. They are really the educational arm of the
16 Libertarian party, and from them I ordered a lot of
17 information, lots and lots of books. I have a room in my
18 house that the entire wall is a book shelf of videos, books,
19 tapes, flyers and such that I ordered from the advocates and
20 from other places. Don and I went to conventions. Don had
21 seminars. I organized a group in Memphis called the Advocates
22 for Self-Government supper club and once a month, people who
23 were interested would get together and we would discuss the
24 social political ideas of the Libertarian party and of the
25 United States.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: I'm listening to this TV back
2 here, I was wondering if the court could inquire as to
3 whether the jury can hear Ms. Kuglin?
4 THE WITNESS: Can you hear me all right?
5 THE COURT: They can hear fine. She is
6 speaking into her mic, I think everybody can hear well.
7 You can turn off the screen, if you want to.
8 MR. BECRAFT: I may not know how to do it,
9 Judge.
10 THE COURT: It has got an on/off button. I
11 think the juror can handle that. Thank you.
12 Q. Did you learn anything about taxes by attending these
13 various meetings where you went --
14 A. Well, initially --
15 Q. -- regarding the Libertarian party.
16 A. I'm sorry.
17 Q. You told us you went to a lot of Libertarian meetings,
18 did you learn or begin to learn anything about federal income
19 taxes while you were going to these various meetings?
20 A. I think the first thing that I heard which struck me or
21 made me take notice was that I kept hearing the fact that the
22 income tax was a voluntary tax. Now, I had been paying my
23 taxes, I had been filling out my 1040 forms, and Mr. Becraft
24 asked me earlier why I had been doing it at that time, and I
25 said because I thought I had to. Another factor was that I
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1 was afraid if I didn't that something bad would happen to me.
2 So when I started hearing that it was a voluntary system, it
3 just took me surprise. I couldn't understand how it could be
4 a voluntary system. And they said it was a voluntary
5 compliance.
6 Now, the words voluntary and compliance to me don't
7 match very well. Voluntary, I looked up in the dictionary,
8 and it -- basically, it was something that wasn't mandatory,
9 it was something that you chose to do, that you -- compliance
10 was completely different. It was something that you had to
11 do. So I was confused by this term, and I -- somebody at one
12 of the seminars suggested that I call the IRS and ask them if
13 the income tax was a voluntary tax. So I did. I called up
14 the IRS, and I said, you know, I would like to know if the
15 income tax is voluntary because if it is, I want to
16 unvolunteer right now. And they said, no, it's voluntary
17 compliance, and I said what does voluntary compliance mean,
18 and they said you have to do it. And I said that doesn't
19 sound very voluntary to me. Well, the conversation didn't get
20 very far. So I decided I needed to look somewhere else, and I
21 kept asking around, reading, trying to find some understanding
22 of this conflict of terms. And I finally met a gentleman, I
23 don't remember his name anymore, heard him at a seminar that I
24 heard him speak at, and he said his understanding was that as
25 American citizens, we are responsible for reading the tax
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1 code, for understanding what it says, for determining whether
2 or not there's a tax that applies to us. If it is, if we
3 determine that we are liable for one of the taxes in that
4 code, then it is our civic duty to fill out the documents
5 which relate to that tax.
6 Now, once we filled out the documents and
7 self-assessed, it's now our responsibility to comply with our
8 assessment. And I learned that as American citizens, we are
9 responsible for self-assessing. And once we self-assess, then
10 we must comply. But first of all, we have to determine
11 whether or not we're liable for one of the taxes. So that
12 straightened out the different -- the conflict in those words
13 for me.
14 Q. Okay. But -- one of the first things you kind of ran
15 into when you got involved in this -- on your personal
16 endeavor to learn something about the tax laws, you heard
17 these statements about voluntary?
18 A. Yes, I did.
19 Q. Now, down to your left --
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. -- on the floor, there is that blue box, can I request
22 that you pull out the files that bear the numbers 5 through 15
23 and then also 22? Do you have them?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Okay. Now, can I direct your attention to the one that
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1 is -- has the number on it of five?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Okay. Can you identify that for me, please?
4 A. Yes. This is entitled Internal Revenue investigation.
5 It's dated Thursday, February the 3rd, 1953, House of
6 Representatives Subcommittee on Administration of the Internal
7 Revenue laws of the Committee on Ways and Means, Washington,
8 D. C.
9 Q. Is that something that you read and relied upon that
10 related to your understanding of tax laws?
11 A. Oh, yes, it is.
12 Q. Do you have a judgment or recollection as to when it
13 was that you might have seen or read this document?
14 A. This would have been early on prior to the time that I
15 stopped filing, somewhere between '92 and '95.
16 Q. Okay. But no later than April the 15th of 1996?
17 A. Oh, no, not at all.
18 Q. And what was it in this particular document that was
19 important for you?
20 A. Well, the -- I can probably quote it better than I can
21 find it. What was happening at this time is there was an
22 investigation of the Internal Revenue Service for corruption
23 within the service, and at this investigation was Mr. Avis who
24 at that time was the -- let's see, Mr. Avis, he, I believe,
25 was the head of the -- of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
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1 Division of the IRS. And as the committee was asking some
2 questions, they raised a question in reference to where there
3 would be some offices or counsel that would be -- that they
4 would contact, and Mr. Curtis who was one of the Congressmen
5 asked the question -- made the comment an alcohol tax matter
6 that would go to the appeals section, and he was interrupted
7 by Mr. Avis, and Mr. Avis said there is no such thing, that is
8 where the structure differs, and he went on to say, let me
9 point this out now, your income tax is one hundred percent
10 voluntary tax. Your liquor tax is a one hundred percent
11 enforced tax. Now, the situation is as different as night and
12 day. Consequently, your same rules just will not apply.
13 Q. Now, what's your understanding that that passage that
14 you just read us from, what does it come from?
15 A. Well, this comes from the government. This comes from
16 a congressional hearing, that comes from a man who is at the
17 head of an agency, and he's telling me here that the income
18 tax is one hundred percent voluntary tax.
19 Q. Okay. And it was your understanding that you were
20 reading from a government document?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Okay. Let's kind of flip that over and set it aside
23 for right now.
24 A. Okay.
25 Q. And let me direct your attention to the one -- the
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1 document that has a number six on it.
2 A. All right, I have it.
3 Q. And can you identify that for us, please?
4 A. Yes, this is -- it says '79 annual report from the
5 Commissioner of the Internal Revenue.
6 Q. And what was important about that particular document
7 in reference to your beliefs?
8 A. Well, I find that throughout this document, there was
9 some six times where the word voluntary was mentioned, and it
10 says -- let me read the several places. Let's see, the whole
11 sentence, there is no doubt that better taxpayer assistance,
12 more sensitive responsiveness to taxpayer compliance,
13 complaints and problems and simpler tax forms and instructions
14 are of great importance in achieving a high level of voluntary
15 compliance with our tax laws. Later on, it says, to put these
16 figures in context in the same tax years individuals
17 voluntarily reported nearly 1.1 trillion in income and paid a
18 total of 142 billion dollars in taxes.
19 The next paragraph, the report lends considerable
20 weight to the conclusions drawn from past studies that
21 voluntary reporting is highest when incomes are subject to tax
22 withholding. And the next paragraph, in fairness to the
23 millions of taxpayers who voluntarily file, report their
24 income and pay the tax, we must strengthen current compliance
25 efforts. And I believe there's one more, it says the -- let's
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1 see. The great abuse we're finding in this area, if allowed
2 to continue unchecked, could result in serious decline in
3 taxpayers' perception of the fairness and evenhandedness of
4 our administration of the tax system and consequently in their
5 voluntary compliance. So here we have six places where the
6 Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service talked about the
7 income tax or the tax system being a voluntary system.
8 Q. Take a look at the file that has the number on it
9 seven -- seven and eight.
10 A. You want me to set this aside?
11 Q. Yes.
12 A. Put it back in the file. Which number was that?
13 Q. Seven.
14 A. Seven.
15 Q. And can you identify the document for us, please?
16 A. Yes, this is a 1992 1040 form.
17 Q. Copies of parts of the '92 instruction booklet?
18 A. Yes, it is.
19 Q. Is that something you read and relied upon?
20 A. Yes, it is.
21 Q. Direct our attention to that particular document, the
22 '92 instruction booklet bearing the number seven on it, what
23 was it?
24 A. What was the document?
25 Q. What was on that document that you found?
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1 A. It says right here -- excuse me, I'm sorry, it says a
2 note from the commissioner. Dear Taxpayer. Thank you for
3 making this nation's tax system the most effective system of
4 voluntary compliance in the world.
5 Q. Let me direct your attention to another one, the next
6 one, number eight. Is that something similar except for '93?
7 A. Let me get this here. I did have a binder with all of
8 these, and somehow it disappeared last night when I left it
9 here at the court, so I'm not sure where it is. '93, yes.
10 THE COURT: Let me talk to people at side.
11 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
12 bench.)
13 THE COURT: Okay. That was a very
14 inappropriate aside. What is she talking about? You
15 didn't come to me this morning and say something is
16 missing. What is missing?
17 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor. I left all of
18 our books up here last night.
19 THE COURT: Where did you leave them?
20 MR. BECRAFT: Just right there.
21 THE COURT: Is something missing?
22 MR. BECRAFT: Well, no, no -- we don't know
23 where it went. After we left court, I left all these
24 exhibits up here so I wouldn't have to bring them back and
25 forth. She has a white notebook that she has had her
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1 boyfriend looking for ever since. We walked down to
2 Gordon Biersch's last night. My suspicions is it got left
3 down there, but it was all her notes in it, but we have --
4 for our exhibits, we have got so much redundancy built
5 into it that she has misplaced her notebook, but, you
6 know -- so we're just going through the ones that she has
7 got.
8 THE COURT: The problem with the inference is
9 that somehow she left it here, and Mr. Murphy is here and
10 it disappeared, that's the problem with the inference is
11 that she's blaming it on the government. Frankly, I'm not
12 the government, I'm the judiciary. I know we didn't do
13 anything with it.
14 MR. BECRAFT: I will ask a question about it.
15 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy, we don't have to say
16 anything about it, but I want to make sure that there is a
17 not a problem. If she thinks she is missing something, we
18 need to look for it.
19 MR. BECRAFT: We have, Your Honor. We haven't
20 located it, but we have got so much spare copies that
21 we're proceeding with the box that we have got. It
22 poses --
23 THE COURT: That's no problem. That's fine.
24 (The following proceedings were had in open
25 court.)
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1 THE COURT: That's the first I had heard about
2 anybody leaving something in court and it not being here
3 the next morning. I wish they had told me this morning.
4 We try to lock things up every night, and, frankly, we do.
5 We lock up the courtroom. In fact, we even lock up the
6 jury room, have to unlock it in the morning, but I wanted
7 to make sure there wasn't something that we had
8 inadvertently moved around, and we will look for it,
9 although I don't think --
10 THE WITNESS: May I address the court?
11 THE COURT: That's okay, I just wanted to make
12 sure we didn't lose something.
13 THE WITNESS: No, I just meant it was just I
14 had them all in file, and so I was just fumbling around a
15 little bit. I didn't mean to imply that there was
16 anything that -- you know, it's possible that I had taken
17 it with me and left it somewhere.
18 THE COURT: Sure, that's okay. I just wanted
19 to make sure that we didn't lose anybody, okay.
20 THE WITNESS: No, no.
21 THE COURT: It is possible for the federal
22 government to lose something, I agree with you on that.
23 THE WITNESS: I have everything here, it's just
24 not as easy for me to get to as my own copy.
25 THE COURT: No problem.
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1 Q. You had the same exhibits organized for yourself in
2 your own little folder?
3 A. Yes, I did.
4 Q. Which right now cannot be located?
5 A. That's correct.
6 THE COURT: If we find it, we will give it to
7 you.
8 THE WITNESS: If you don't mind me fumbling
9 around, I won't need it.
10 THE COURT: That's no problem at all.
11 MR. BECRAFT: My personal conclusion is it's
12 somewhere on Main Street.
13 THE WITNESS: Yes.
14 Q. We have been distracted, let's go back to that exhibit
15 number, what is labeled number 8?
16 A. It's number 8.
17 Q. Kind of hit it fast. Is that another statement like
18 the one you just read?
19 A. Right, it is 1993, 1040, it says you are among the
20 millions of Americans who comply with the tax law voluntarily.
21 Q. Okay. Let me direct your attention to the one that has
22 the number nine on it.
23 A. All right.
24 Q. Or skip that one and go to number ten.
25 A. All right. I have number ten.
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1 Q. Was that something you read and relied upon?
2 A. Yes, it is.
3 Q. What was important about it?
4 A. Well, the title is Withholding Is Not Required.
5 Employers and employees are volunteers in a tax scheme. It
6 says employers are not required to have money withheld from
7 their earnings.
8 Q. Okay.
9 A. Employees, I'm sorry.
10 Q. Okay. Now, listen to my number, I directed your
11 attention to number ten.
12 A. I'm sorry, you are absolutely correct, I pulled out the
13 wrong one. Number ten.
14 Q. What is your understanding of what that document is?
15 A. This document is -- at the top, it has the Internal
16 Revenue Service logo, and then it says mission. The purpose
17 of the IRS is to collect the proper amount of tax revenues at
18 the least cost to the public and in a manner that warrants the
19 highest degree of public confidence. In our integrity,
20 efficiency and fairness, to achieve that purpose, we will
21 encourage and achieve the highest possible degree of voluntary
22 compliance in accordance with tax laws and regulations. We
23 will advise the public of their rights and responsibilities.
24 Q. Now, let me direct your attention to -- there's a
25 series of similar documents that are labeled or numbered 13,
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1 14 and 15, can you pull those out for us, please?
2 A. I also had my documents highlighted, so it is going to
3 take me a little while to find.
4 Q. Now, you just got through talking about Exhibit Number
5 10, the mission statement of the IRS, right?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. All right. Do 13, 14 and 15, those documents bearing
8 those numbers, do they kind of relate to this general topic of
9 the mission of the IRS?
10 A. Yes, they do.
11 Q. Okay. And is it similar to -- is that mission of the
12 IRS in those documents similar to the one in number 10?
13 A. Let me find this here right here. Yes, it is. The tax
14 system is based on voluntary compliance and taxpayers complete
15 and return the forms with payment of any tax owed.
16 Q. Is there something on that -- is that number 13?
17 A. This is number 13.
18 Q. Is there something at the top of the page that would
19 indicate a date?
20 A. Yes, it says 4-1 of '97.
21 Q. All right. And is it fair to say that the next two
22 exhibits are basically the same type of document, but for
23 later years?
24 A. Yes, they are, and they are for 4-1-98. Documents come
25 out of 26 Code of Federal Regulations, Chapter 1. And the
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1 third one is for April 1st of '99.
2 Q. Okay. Of course, these are later in time, but sometime
3 shortly after these documents would have been published and
4 before April 15 of, say, 2000 or 2001, had you read those
5 documents?
6 A. Yes, I had.
7 Q. Did you rely upon them?
8 A. Yes, I did.
9 Q. For the belief that there's statements from the
10 government about voluntary compliance?
11 A. Absolutely.
12 Q. Now, these documents right here, 13, 14 and 15, what is
13 your understanding as to their real nature, what are those
14 documents?
15 A. These are 601, 602 is tax form and instructions, it's
16 about completing the forms.
17 Q. All right. Is that regulations?
18 A. Yes, it is.
19 Q. Let me direct your attention to -- can you pull out 22?
20 Can you identify the exhibit number or the document that is
21 labeled 22 for us, please?
22 A. Yes, the document that is labeled 22 is a -- it's from
23 the Supreme Court reporter. It's a case entitled Walter Flora
24 versus the United States of America, and it's dated March --
25 well, re-argued November 12th, 1959, decided March the 21st of
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1 1960.
2 Q. Okay. I have to ask you some questions that relate to
3 a promise that I made to the court. Ms. Kuglin, is it your
4 understanding that during your testimony of this case that
5 what you're going to be telling the jury is your beliefs about
6 the law, correct?
7 A. That's correct.
8 Q. All right. So if we kind of get rolling along here and
9 you say the law, the law, the law, are you telling us your
10 belief about the law?
11 A. Yes, it is my belief. Just my belief of the law.
12 Q. And you understand that later on, the court is going to
13 be telling the jury what the law is?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. So you're not attempting to tell the jury what the law
16 is?
17 A. No, I'm not.
18 Q. Having said about, let's roll back to that document
19 number 22, did you say it is called the Flora Supreme Court
20 case?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Okay. Did you read that at some time when you first
23 started studying the tax laws?
24 A. Yes, I did.
25 Q. Okay. Direct your attention to -- what was it that was
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1 important in that particular case that you noted?
2 A. This is on this document, it was at page six of 47, and
3 there's a statement which the court returned in their
4 decision. It says our system of taxation is based upon
5 voluntary assessment and payment, not upon distraint.
6 Q. What did that mean to you?
7 A. That basically substantiated the things that I had read
8 before about voluntary -- that the tax system was voluntary,
9 that, as I stated before, we as citizens are to understand the
10 tax code, as best we can, assess ourselves, and then
11 voluntarily comply with the rules and regulations if it
12 applies to us.
13 Q. So would you have read this case and relied upon it at
14 some time before, oh, 1996 or 1997?
15 A. Oh, yes.
16 Q. Would it have been before that time?
17 A. Yeah. Oh, yes.
18 Q. Give us your best judgment or recollection as to when
19 you were going to these meetings, when was it that you started
20 hearing this stuff about voluntary?
21 A. It was at the meetings, I first started hearing it, and
22 as I said before, I started to dig into it and accumulate
23 documents. At these conventions and meetings that you go to,
24 there is a lot of people who bring copies, forms and things
25 like that which, you know, talk about the different aspects of
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1 it. And what the speakers always tell you to do is not to
2 rely on what they have said, but to go and research the
3 documents, go to the library, find the documents, substantiate
4 what they have basically said, and that's why I got the
5 documents and what I started doing.
6 Q. Now, you said you got a lot of your tax information at
7 Libertarian party meetings?
8 A. Yes, and conventions and other places.
9 Q. Was the Libertarian party, the speakers there, were
10 they people that -- were the only speakers ones that were
11 speaking about taxes?
12 A. Oh, no, no, there were other -- I went to other
13 seminars that were being held. Don Winfield put on seminars
14 and he had speakers come. I go to a convention every August
15 called the ARIS Convention in Aspen and sometimes the speakers
16 there are discussing the tax issues.
17 Q. But are they talking about something beyond or other
18 than taxes?
19 A. Oh -- they do, yes, they talk about the -- let me see
20 how to put it.
21 Q. Do they have speakers about politics?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Economics?
24 A. They talk about politics, economics, the role of
25 government in society, how we can improve our society, what
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1 the founding fathers intended for our society, how the tax
2 system was developed and just a wide range of subjects.
3 Q. Well, so by -- between '92 and '93 and all the way up
4 through '94, were you digging into this topic of how do the
5 federal income tax laws operate?
6 A. Absolutely. I had -- when I -- some of the material I
7 had gotten from the Advocates for Self-Government, several of
8 the books, and I believe that they were in regard to the
9 Constitution. I got a series of cassette tapes on the
10 Constitution. I was very interested in finding out how the
11 founding fathers looked at the tax issues and how they
12 determined what type of tax system would -- was going to be in
13 the country.
14 Q. Let me stop you right there.
15 A. Sure.
16 Q. Just for -- you mentioned tapes and I have shown this
17 before, what do I have in my hand?
18 A. You have a series of cassette tapes done by Knowledge
19 Products. They're outside of Nashville, Tennessee or, I'm
20 sorry, Chattanooga.
21 Q. And narrated by Walter Cronkyte?
22 A. Yes. They have different series, one is on economics,
23 one is on religions of the world, different wars of the world,
24 just -- there's different series of those tapes, and they're
25 narrated by different very prominent people. And I find them
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1 to be very informative and very credible.
2 Q. Now, you listened to these tapes and learned something
3 about the United States Constitution, correct?
4 A. Yes, I did.
5 Q. Did you read any terms or engage in any study that
6 related to the constitutional provisions that relate to
7 taxation?
8 A. Yes, I did.
9 Q. Okay. Explain to us what it was that you were reading.
10 A. Okay. I ordered a tax code -- I'm sorry, I didn't mean
11 tax code, I looked over here. It's bigger than this. I
12 ordered a copy of the Constitution, and I was really surprised
13 when I got it, because the Declaration of Independence, the
14 Bill of Rights and the Constitution are in a book about this
15 small, and I thought, boy, I have never seen this, you know,
16 why did I not get this book in school. And I started reading
17 it, and I ordered the set of tapes so that it would help me
18 understand this, because I had read several places in the
19 Constitution that related to taxes --
20 Q. Can I stop you right there?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. So you had the tape series, the Constitution itself.
23 Were there any other documents, that in order to understand
24 the constitutional aspects of federal taxation, any other
25 types of things that you read?
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1 A. Yes, I did. After I had read the information they had,
2 there were court cases that I started reading.
3 Q. Okay. What were -- what were the names of those court
4 cases to your understanding?
5 A. The first case was the -- that I was directed to, and
6 you'll have to understand that I took --
7 Q. Now, listen to my question. Just give the names of the
8 questions.
9 A. The first case was the Pollock case. The second case
10 was the Brushaber case. The third case was Flint versus Stone
11 Tracy. The fourth case was Redfield versus Fisher. Fifth
12 case was Sims versus Ahrens, and the final case in regard to
13 this was Jack Cole versus McFarland.
14 Q. Okay. So in these materials that you have listed off
15 for us, the Constitution itself, the audio tape series, those
16 cases, do they relate in some way to your understanding about
17 at least the constitutional nature of federal income taxes?
18 A. Yes, they did.
19 Q. Give us -- tell us what you learned by listening to the
20 audio tapes, reading the cases, looking at the Constitution,
21 reading anything else that you did.
22 A. Well, I found out that the founding fathers were very,
23 very interested in the tax issue. The revolution had
24 basically -- the straw that broke the camel's back was a three
25 cent tax on tea, and the whole revolution basically was trying
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1 to get out from under the long arm of the British government,
2 and after the revolution, there was the Articles of
3 Confederation were compiled, and the Articles of Confederation
4 are similar to the Constitution, much looser than the
5 Constitution. And the Articles of Confederation, one of the
6 things it did not allow for was for the national government to
7 be able to levy taxes, and part of this was because the
8 citizens of each of the states, the states had the power to
9 tax within their own borders and they were, very, very
10 hesitant to allow a central government to have the power of
11 competing with them in the taxation arena. So the Articles of
12 Confederation did not allow for that.
13 However, situations arose where there was some national
14 emergencies that really needed the federal government to
15 intervene, and at this time, the national government, as it
16 was called then, had very, very limited powers to protect from
17 the enemy without, to adjudicate disagreements, force and
18 fraud within the society, but without the ability to lay
19 taxes, they could not really fight a war, and so the -- there
20 was a convention convened in Philadelphia in order to revise
21 the Articles of Confederation to allow the national government
22 to be able to require the states to pay a portion of the
23 monies necessary for a war or something like that. What ended
24 up out of that was the Constitution. They actually wrote an
25 entirely new document. In those cassette tapes, there's some
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1 very, very interesting information on the debates that went on
2 about the tax issue. This was -- this was something very,
3 very serious for the founding fathers, and how they would
4 decide who got taxed, who got to do the taxing and such like
5 that. I found out that generally the strong arm of taxation
6 for -- in the past, kings, governments and such like that had
7 been customs taxes, indirect taxes, and that -- excuse me, I
8 need to take a drink.
9 Q. You want me to rephrase?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. Okay. What was it that you learned by studying these
12 documents? You were telling us about your studies of the
13 Constitution, relationship to federal taxation, what was it
14 that you learned by engaging this study that had an effect
15 upon your beliefs?
16 A. Right. I found out in studying this that there were
17 two types of -- basically two types of taxes which were
18 created under the Constitution. There were the direct taxes
19 and indirect taxes. Now, Article 1, Section 8 of the
20 Constitution says basically that Congress shall have the power
21 to -- excuse me, let me get it out. I'm a little nervous
22 here.
23 THE COURT: Actually, I need to take about a
24 five-minute break.
25 THE WITNESS: That would be great.
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1 THE COURT: Is that okay?
2 THE WITNESS: That would be fine. Thank you.
3 THE COURT: We're going to take a short break,
4 and that way I can get something taken care of in the back
5 that I need to actually sign, and I will be right back.
6 Five minutes. That will also give you a short break.
7 We're going to stay really much past 5:00. We're going to
8 go right to 5:00, and we're going to stop at 5:00. We're
9 going to come back at 9:00 tomorrow, just like we did
10 today. 8:30, come back at 9:00 tomorrow, so that will be
11 our schedule. See you in five minutes.
12 (Recess taken at 4:10 until 4:15 p.m.)
13 THE COURT: You all set?
14 THE WITNESS: Yes, thank you.
15 THE COURT: Sure. I'm sorry we -- I tried to
16 check on having -- see if the cleaning folks could have
17 possibly gotten that book. I would have had them check
18 earlier this morning --
19 THE WITNESS: That's all right. We can handle
20 it this way. You know, it will just be a little bit more
21 effort on my part, but that's fine.
22 MR. BECRAFT: I bet we left it at Gordon
23 Biersch's, that's my bet, Judge.
24 THE COURT: I wish -- we might make an effort
25 to try to take care of everybody.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Judge, it's really no problem,
2 because she has made so many copies of the exhibits that
3 we have redundancy built in.
4 THE COURT: I think I have done what I should
5 do. I will check on everything I can and I will continue
6 to do that.
7 THE WITNESS: Don't be worried about it because
8 we will be fine. Thank you.
9 THE COURT: Well, Mrs. Parker, I'm going to let
10 you actually -- we'll be quite and let you go get the
11 jury.
12 (Jury in at 4:17 p.m.)
13 THE COURT: Anyway, we're ready to proceed.
14 Thank you.
15 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court.
16 Q. Ms. Kuglin, I have an idea as to where we were before
17 the break. You were telling us -- I had posed some question
18 about from all this material that you read and studied, you
19 know, you had reached a certain belief about the taxes powers
20 of the United States under the United States Constitution, I
21 think you were explaining what you had learned or what you
22 believed in that respect when we broke.
23 A. That's correct.
24 Q. All right. I asked the same question all over again.
25 A. All right. And I said that in the Constitution there
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1 are three places that has a reference to taxes. Article 1,
2 Section 8 of the Constitution states that the Congress shall
3 have the power to lay and collect taxes, excised, imposed and
4 duties, to provide for the common defense and for the general
5 welfare. But all duties imposed and excises must be uniform
6 throughout the United States. In other words, if you have a
7 gas tax in Vermont of 50 cents, you have to have a gas tax in
8 California of 50 cents. They have to be uniform throughout
9 the country. That Article 1, Section nine of the Constitution
10 addresses a different type of tax. It says no capitation or a
11 direct tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the census
12 and the enumeration herein before ordered to be taken.
13 Now, in Article 1, section 8, they were discussing what
14 is known as indirect taxes. Indirect taxes are those, excised
15 imposed taxes which can be passed on to somebody else. In
16 other words, if you are a business person and you have a
17 certain business expense or you have a federal -- a tax that
18 you have to pay, you can pass that on to somebody else.
19 Direct taxes were taxes that couldn't be passed on, they were
20 basically taxes that were placed upon the property, fruits of
21 labor and such like that. And then later on, you have the
22 16th Amendment, which we'll get into, I believe, a little
23 later.
24 Q. Now, did you read something -- you mentioned earlier
25 this afternoon about some cases that you read. Did they --
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1 those cases themselves relate to this issue of, you know, the
2 constitutional nature of federal income taxes, and did they
3 play some role in your beliefs about your requirement to file
4 returns?
5 A. Oh, absolutely.
6 Q. Okay. Can you explain to the jury what this Pollock
7 case was about?
8 A. Well, after the -- let me back up just a moment for
9 the -- back to the war between the states and to the direct
10 tax. There was a couple of things I wanted to explain on the
11 direct tax. There was some limitations on direct taxation.
12 The federal government could tax excise taxes or indirect
13 taxes, but they did have a limit on direct taxes. One of the
14 limitations on those direct taxes was that they could only be
15 levied in states of declared emergency and that the tax must
16 end within two years after that state of emergency ended. The
17 other requirement was that the cost of the state of -- of the
18 state of emergency needed to be computed, divided among the
19 states based on their inhabitance and the bill sent to the
20 states. I think all of us learned in school about no
21 taxation -- no taxation without representation. Well, that's
22 where this came from, that the percentage of the bill for the
23 state of emergency that was sent to any individual state was
24 done so based on the number of inhabitants. Now, one thing I
25 found very interesting was that the Congress could not
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1 directly tax the individuals in the states, that the bill was
2 sent to the individual states, and it was up to the states to
3 determine -- to figure out how they were going to pay their
4 share of the bill. Some states, if they had enough money in
5 their coffers to pay their share of the bill, the citizens of
6 the states might never ever know that the tax had been paid.
7 Other states, if they didn't have enough money would -- could
8 decide how they wanted to tax their citizens. For instance,
9 in the State of Tennessee, they might decide to tax real
10 estate, might decide to tax the number of windows you have in
11 a house, the number of fireplaces or such like that. But that
12 was left up to the state. That was not a rule the federal
13 government had, so I just wanted to clarify on the direct
14 taxes. And as I started reading more and more -- I was going
15 back to the war between the states, there was a tax, direct
16 tax levied for raising the money for the war between the
17 states, and this was done according to constitutional
18 mandates, and the bill was sent to the states. The tax ended
19 not two years after the war, they took a little extra year to
20 do that, but it did end three years after the war, and from
21 that time on, there really was no income tax, direct tax like
22 by the federal government until about 1894 that Congress
23 decided that they needed a little bit more money. I don't
24 think that's very unusual for us. We hear that all the time,
25 they want a little bit more money. And so there was an income
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1 tax of 1894 was passed. And you want me to continue?
2 Q. Well, my question to you is that you mentioned --
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. -- this Pollock case.
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. I would like to know what you learned by reading that
7 document.
8 A. Okay. The Pollock case was really as a result of the
9 income tax of 1894. Mr. Pollock worked for Farmers Loan and
10 Trust Company, and when the income tax was instituted, the
11 directors of the company began taking -- paying taxes out of
12 the profits of his stocks and his bonds. And in 1895, people
13 were still very familiar with the Constitution. Most people,
14 you know, had read it and were familiar with it. And so he
15 felt that the income tax of 1894 was not a constitutional tax,
16 that it could not be levied on the income off of his stocks
17 and bonds, so he took the case to court, he and some other
18 people, and it ended up all the way up at the Supreme Court
19 level. And in that Supreme Court decision, the majority of
20 the judges or the majority ruling of that case was that the
21 income tax was a tax on property and that because it had not
22 been levied in relationship to uniformity, or I'm sorry, let
23 me back up.
24 Q. Let me ask you this -- why don't you pull out --
25 A. Thank you.
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1 Q. There's a file folder in that blue box, there's a
2 number 16.
3 A. Okay. I have 16. Mr. Pollock, yes.
4 Q. You just stuck something in your hand?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Is that file folder 16?
7 A. This is file folder 16, yes.
8 Q. Okay. Is that something you read and relied upon?
9 A. Yes, it is. It is the 339 pages of Farmer -- Pollock
10 versus Farmers Loan and Trust.
11 Q. All right.
12 A. And I can continue on with what I was saying if you
13 would like me to.
14 Q. You mentioned that that is an extremely long case, 339
15 pages?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 Q. Did you read it all?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Have you studied it?
20 A. Yes, I have. I have read it several times.
21 Q. Is it a little harder to understand than a novel?
22 A. Yes, it is, but not too much harder. You have to read
23 it slowly, and if you read it slowly, then it begins to fall
24 into place.
25 Q. Now, what was the refined essence of what you learned
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1 by reading that document that you have in your hand?
2 A. Okay. As I was -- I was tempted to say a little
3 earlier that the majority of the judges ruled that the tax --
4 income tax of 1894 was a direct tax and because -- on property
5 and that because it had not been apportioned that it was not
6 constitutional.
7 Now, they defined the direct tax as a tax on property.
8 Interestingly enough, there was a dissenting position in this
9 case, and this dissenting position was written by a new judge
10 on the court by the name of Justice White, and in his
11 dissenting position, Justice White said no, the income tax is
12 not a direct tax, it's an excise tax and, therefore, it must
13 be uniform across the country.
14 Q. Now --
15 A. And so the case ruled the income tax of 1894
16 unconstitutional.
17 Q. Did you read any studies that related to what happened
18 after the Pollock case?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Was that type of stuff that was covered in this tape
21 series here?
22 A. Yes, in that tape series, and also I had read some
23 books that referred to, and there were other cases. There was
24 the next case that I'm going to talk about, had referred to
25 Pollock and some of the decisions in the Pollock case.
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1 Q. Okay. Let me direct your attention to that file
2 folder, 17.
3 A. Did you want me to lay this aside?
4 Q. Yes, lay 16 aside.
5 A. All right. Let me just clarify this, you just want the
6 stack of exhibits that we're using right here or --
7 Q. Yeah, that will be fine, or you can turn around and put
8 them up there. We're through with them right now, if you need
9 space.
10 A. Okay.
11 Q. Now, you have pulled out of the blue box file folder
12 17?
13 A. That's correct.
14 Q. Okay. Can you tell us what that is?
15 A. Yes, this is another court case, Supreme Court printed
16 out of the Supreme Court Recorder, entitled Frank R. Brushaber
17 versus Union Pacific Railroad Company.
18 Q. Now, did you read this case?
19 A. Yes, I did.
20 Q. And can you tell the jury what you learned, how this
21 had some impact or view or -- impact upon your beliefs
22 regarding federal income taxes?
23 A. I want to back up just briefly, after the Pollock
24 decision, Congress was not real happy with this decision. And
25 other people were not real happy with it, and so they were
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1 garnering inform -- they were garnering support to attempt to
2 do another tax, income tax, and finally, in 1913, they --
3 Congress garnered enough support to pass what we know as the
4 16th Amendment, and the 16th Amendment, I would like to read
5 that, if I might, what it said about -- 16th Amendment said
6 that Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on
7 incomes from whatever source derived without apportionment
8 among the several states. Basically, what the amendment was
9 wanting to do is to get rid of the apportionment requirement
10 which the Pollock case had assigned to the income tax when it
11 defined it as a direct tax. So after they passed the 16th
12 Amendment, another situation -- another situation arose
13 similar to Mr. Pollock's situation. And this one was a Mr.
14 Brushaber,and Mr. Brushaber worked for the Union Pacific
15 Railroad Company, and again, he owned -- I'm sorry, he did not
16 work for the Union Pacific Railroad, he owned stock in the
17 Union Pacific Railroad Company and, again, they began
18 withholding taxes out of the profits of his stocks. So he
19 took this to the court -- excuse me a moment. Again, this
20 went all the way up to the Supreme Court. Now, interesting
21 factors, I told you before on the Pollock case that the
22 dissenting decision was written by a Justice White. By the
23 time the Brushaber came along, Justice White had become the
24 chief justice of the Supreme Court, and he decided to write
25 this opinion himself. And in the opinion, he said that the
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1 Pollock case was incorrect, that income tax was not a direct
2 tax and that it needed not to be apportioned, that, in fact,
3 by virtue of its name, the term the income tax was an indirect
4 tax, and the requirement under Section 1, Article 1, Section 8
5 of the Constitution says that indirect taxes must be levied
6 uniformly across the country. So the -- the -- one other
7 thing that came out of the Brushaber case was that the 16th
8 Amendment -- many people feel that the 16th Amendment was
9 declared unconstitutional at that time. It was not, and
10 Justice White did not declare it unconstitutional. He simply
11 defined that the constitutional restrictions of direct taxes
12 by apportionment, indirect taxes by uniformity still applied,
13 that had not been changed, but that the term income taxes was
14 an excise tax.
15 Q. Well, Ms. Kuglin, this is kind of -- you know, of what
16 significance is a case that declares the federal income tax to
17 be an excise tax, of what significance is it to you about
18 filing returns?
19 A. Well, an excise tax -- and in order to find the
20 definition of what exactly an excise tax was, I had to do a
21 little bit more research.
22 Q. Let me stop you there, what was that, what was this
23 research?
24 A. Well, the research that I did -- but the main research
25 was a case entitled Flint versus Stone Tracy.
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1 Q. Did you read that document?
2 A. Yes, I did. May I take it --
3 Q. Yes, it is file number 18.
4 A. Okay.
5 Q. You can lay the other aside behind you.
6 A. I need to put this back.
7 Q. You have file number 18 in front of you?
8 A. Yes, I do.
9 Q. Can you identify that for us, please?
10 A. Yes. This case is entitled Flint versus Stone Tracy,
11 and it was decided in -- let's see the date on this is -- this
12 is in about 1925, I believe, it was an earlier case, and it
13 was in regard to excise taxes, and one of the -- or the
14 decision in this case, one -- the decisions in this case that
15 defined what an excise tax was, because it was rather
16 confusing at that time. And in Flint versus Stone Tracy, the
17 court said that excise taxes are those taxes laid upon the
18 manufacture, the sale and the consumption of commodities
19 within the country. They're taxes laid upon the licensing of
20 certain occupations and also upon corporate privileges. Now,
21 the thing that was really interesting about the Flint versus
22 Stone Tracy Company for me in regard to the income tax is that
23 my earnings from FedEx, I'm a pilot, I'm not a manufacturer of
24 commodities, I -- my job is not a job that requires a special
25 government privilege to do, and I'm not a corporation. So in
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1 light of the fact that Justice White in the Brushaber case
2 said that the income tax was actually an excise tax, and now
3 in Flint versus Stone Tracy, I'm told that excise taxes are
4 those laid upon manufacturers, upon licenses and upon
5 corporations. So I'm beginning to really question what is
6 going on here, because I know that I'm told that the income
7 tax is the tax I'm liable for on my wages, and every -- these
8 documents that I have come across so far tell me a different
9 story.
10 Q. Let me get you to -- pull out all at once files number
11 19, 20 and 21.
12 A. Are we finished with five through 11?
13 Q. Yes.
14 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach, Your Honor?
15 THE COURT: You may.
16 A. What number?
17 Q. 19, 20, and 21. Do you have them in your hands?
18 A. I do.
19 Q. Now, let me -- turn to file number 20.
20 A. Okay. File number 20.
21 Q. Can you identify that for me, please?
22 A. I can. This is a case that was heard in 1925. It
23 was -- it's entitled Sims versus Ahrens, and this case was
24 heard by the Supreme Court of our neighboring state, Arkansas.
25 This was decided in Little Rock.
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1 Q. What significance about this particular document
2 regarding your tax beliefs?
3 A. Well, in the rendering of the decision in regard to the
4 ability of a legislature or a legislative body to tax, it says
5 the legislature has no power to tax for revenue purposes those
6 occupations that are of common right. It goes on to say that
7 the legislature does have the power to declare as a privilege
8 and tax for state revenue purposes those occupations which are
9 not of common right. What this showed to me is that further
10 substantiated that the income tax is an excise tax. It's tax
11 on commodities, corporations and licenses, but here Flint
12 versus Stone Tracy is saying that the legislature does not
13 have the power to tax occupations of common right. Well, my
14 job as a pilot is an occupation of common right, anyone can do
15 what I did, go out to the local airport, start taking flying
16 lessons, building the flying time and become a pilot. So this
17 just substantiated for me one more piece of the puzzle that
18 was starting to fit into place and starting to build a
19 foundation which eventually was going to lead to my decision.
20 Q. Let me direct your attention to that file, number 21,
21 can you identify that for us, please?
22 A. Yes, this is Redfield versus Fisher. This was a case
23 decided by the Supreme Court of Oregon over on the West Coast
24 and it's dated October 24th, 1930.
25 Q. What was it that you learned by reading that case that
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1 related to your tax beliefs?
2 A. I learned about privileges and what are privileges, and
3 the court in its ruling, one of the most significant things
4 that it said was that the individual, unlike the corporation,
5 cannot be taxed for the mere privilege of existing. Said the
6 corporation is an artificial entity receiving its -- excuse
7 me, owing its existence and its charter powers to the state,
8 that the individual's rights to exist and own property are
9 natural rights. The enjoyment therefore -- it's a little
10 difficult the way they say it, it says the enjoyment of which
11 an excise tax cannot be imposed. And what this confirmed for
12 me a little bit more was that my job, my occupation was that
13 of common right and that I have a natural right to existence
14 and that a tax cannot be imposed on that right.
15 Q. Let me direct your attention to the file folder that
16 bears the number 19. Is that something you read and relied
17 upon?
18 A. This is something I read and definitely relied upon.
19 Q. Okay. Tell us about it.
20 A. This case is probably my favorite case, and perhaps
21 it's because this case actually was heard in the Supreme Court
22 of Tennessee, the Volunteer State. And this was Jack Cole
23 Company versus Alfred T. McFarland, commissioner, this is a
24 recent case, this is not -- the other cases were 1920s, 1930s
25 and prior to that. This was a 1960s case, and so it gave me,
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1 you know, some recent substantiation in the puzzle that was
2 beginning to form for me. And the important part of this case
3 that the court stated was that the realizing and receiving of
4 income and earnings or earnings is not a privilege that can be
5 taxed. It says since the right to receive income or earnings
6 is a right belonging to every person, this right cannot be
7 taxed as a privilege, and that was like one of the final
8 pieces in the puzzle as far as understanding why my right to
9 earn a living in the form in which I chose was not a privilege
10 that could be taxed.
11 Q. When was it that you engaged in this process of reading
12 and studying these cases that you have just mentioned?
13 A. I'm sorry, say that again.
14 Q. Okay. What's the time frame when you were reading this
15 stuff?
16 A. Oh, the time frame in this was '92, once after I had
17 first heard about the issue of tax, the truth in taxation
18 movement in the Libertarian party, and 1990 through '95.
19 Q. Well, definitely before April 15th of 1996?
20 A. Absolutely.
21 Q. You had read all these cases?
22 A. Yes, I had.
23 Q. Can you give us a refined essence of your conclusion
24 that you drew from reading and your studying of the
25 Constitution, its taxing powers and the series of cases that
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1 you have just described?
2 A. From the Constitution, I learned that there were two
3 forms of taxes, direct taxes and indirect taxes. Indirect
4 taxes had to be levied uniformly across the country. Direct
5 taxes were those taxes which were laid upon property and such
6 like that and they have to be apportioned and the bill sent to
7 the state, not the individual. Pollock, in the dissenting
8 case, Justice White, identified income taxes as falling in the
9 category and class of taxes known as indirect taxes and
10 therefore must be uniform. Brushaber in the Justice White
11 reconfirmed this. Flint versus Stone Tracy had defined for me
12 what an excise tax was, and I realized that my occupation did
13 not fall under the categories of manufacturing, corporations
14 or licenses. Redfield versus Fisher identified that as a
15 natural human being, an individual that had the right to make
16 a living could not be taxed and then, let's see Jack Cole
17 versus McFarland was the clincher, I had a right to earn a
18 living, I and every other American citizen has a right to earn
19 a living and that right cannot be taxed, and that really was
20 the final, I guess, piece of the puzzle that said, you know,
21 something is amiss here. And I decided at that point in time
22 that I was going to really take a stand on this and start
23 seriously asking questions. I had been doing a lot of the
24 research, but I hadn't really been asking questions about it.
25 And the -- of course, the IRS, each year -- I had been paying
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1 into taxes through my employer throughout all of this time,
2 and I -- up until '92 I had been filing my 1040 forms. But I
3 made the decision that I was not going to file a 1040 form,
4 and then I would start asking some very serious questions of
5 the organization who I thought should have the answers.
6 Q. Let me get you to pull out file folders 1 through 4A.
7 THE COURT: Counsel, it sounds like we're
8 getting ready to be more specific on some questions, is
9 that right?
10 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, that's correct.
11 THE COURT: I think I would rather have all of
12 this on the same day so that it will be more easily
13 followed.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, we're here at the
15 pleasure of the court.
16 THE COURT: Well, I think that's -- I wish that
17 was true, but, anyway, that's a different thing.
18 THE WITNESS: You have made it very
19 pleasurable. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: We're here because we have a case
21 to try, and that's what -- I think we better do that.
22 That will make more sense tomorrow because otherwise we're
23 going to start this portion of the testimony and then Mr.
24 Murphy is going to start examining, and if we break it up,
25 it will be confusing, we don't want to do that.
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1 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to start at
2 9:00 o'clock. That's a pretty good start time. You have
3 to be here at 8:30, hopefully have had your snack and we
4 will be ready to go. We should be ready to go right at
5 9:00. I don't think anybody is going to come about any
6 more repairs on my house tomorrow morning, although if
7 they do, I will stay and talk to them, I got to tell you
8 that. Is everybody okay on their -- we have no electrical
9 problems here, right, everybody is okay, and you don't
10 have any insurance problems, you got all your repairs
11 taken care of? All right. We're all working on it.
12 Well, don't talk about the case among
13 yourselves. Don't let anybody talk with you about it.
14 You heard a lot of references to cases and Supreme Court
15 references and that sort of thing, and I know actually for
16 the people who are really computer driven and get home and
17 get on that computer, it is tempting, and I'm just going
18 to remind you don't try to look anything up. That would
19 be very inappropriate. I will give you all the
20 information that you need from the law side in printed
21 form and also orally when we have the case submitted, and
22 the government and the defense will argue the facts, so
23 don't do that. Don't speak to anybody on either side or
24 anybody who is associated with any side. You should avoid
25 them. And if anybody tries to talk with you, of course,
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1 you should report that to one of the court security
2 officers, a member of my staff or directly to me.
3 And, again, continue to not watch anything on
4 television, read anything in the newspaper or listen to
5 anything on the radio that might be about this case or
6 cases like it. Well, continue to keep an open mind. We
7 have still only heard, frankly, a portion of the case and
8 you need to keep an open mind until you have heard
9 everything in the case, the final arguments of counsel,
10 the final instructions on the law and, of course, have had
11 a chance to go back to the jury room and then discuss the
12 evidence among yourselves, and then make up your mind.
13 Ladies and gentlemen, thanks very much. We
14 will let you excused, we will see you at 8:30 tomorrow.
15 We will start in here at 9:00. Thank you.
16 (Jury out at 4:50 p.m.)
17 THE COURT: I have a couple of questions I want
18 to ask you. I'm going to let you keep your materials, and
19 Mrs. Saba will re-check, because if we find something, we
20 will get it to you. I have a feeling that -- I mean
21 usually they do not remove anything from the courtroom,
22 and usually when we leave it, it is locked except for the
23 custodial folks.
24 THE WITNESS: My mind, I could have very
25 well --
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1 THE COURT: Oh, I understand, and it's possible
2 to mislay something.
3 All right. I need to ask a couple of questions
4 about the instructions. One question, I just want to ask
5 Mr. Murphy, it is very clear to me on Counts 2, 3, 4, 5,
6 6, 7, 8, 9 -- I'm sorry, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, that you are
7 relying on the failure to file -- the information on the
8 Form W-4?
9 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
10 THE COURT: As the affirmative act?
11 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
12 THE COURT: That's perfectly clear. And what
13 I've been trying to figure out, you probably knew what I
14 was trying to figure out -- and we will let you have a
15 seat if you like -- is what is the affirmative act in
16 Count 1, and I'm not sure -- it can't be a failure to file
17 and it can't be a failure to pay.
18 MR. MURPHY: Judge, what it is going to be --
19 and I don't mean to interrupt -- what it is going to be is
20 that '95, what do you call it, W-4?
21 THE COURT: There's a '95 W-4 also?
22 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, and that was
23 introduced --
24 THE COURT: That was, that was. It's just not
25 stated and I wanted to be sure. So we're relying on W-4s
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1 throughout?
2 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
3 THE COURT: Okay. That was the first question.
4 The second question was, is the government going to oppose
5 the giving of the lesser included offense charge? You
6 know, we usually don't do that, and I think there's some
7 authority that says that we don't have to give that. In
8 other words, I don't have to give lesser included offense
9 language, but -- but what does the government want to do?
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, you know, I have been so
11 busy getting ready for this thing, I haven't really
12 thought about it. Part of the problem you have got is
13 some of the case law that -- I have read some cases on it,
14 you can have a failure to -- failure to file and evasion
15 are two different crimes.
16 THE COURT: They're different crimes.
17 MR. MURPHY: Because you can have an evasion
18 with the filing.
19 THE COURT: Well, sure, you can.
20 MR. MURPHY: Bogus tax.
21 THE COURT: False information contained in the
22 return, misstatement of various -- all sorts of things can
23 be done in a return.
24 MR. MURPHY: Sure.
25 THE COURT: That create a false filing. A
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1 failure to file is different, of course.
2 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
3 THE COURT: In the Alamo case, we gave both
4 failure to file charges and other charges. It was not a
5 7201 case. Well, will you think about that?
6 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
7 THE COURT: I kind of need to know that fairly
8 early.
9 MR. MURPHY: I will let you know first thing in
10 the morning.
11 THE COURT: I'm not real sure about that. And
12 then on some of the things like the Privacy Act and so
13 forth, I haven't heard anything, we haven't gotten all the
14 way through the material, you know, I mean I view this as
15 a pretty straightforward good faith question, good faith
16 defense, and whether the jury agrees or not is a jury
17 question.
18 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
19 THE COURT: But what is your position on this?
20 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, I don't think the
21 jury ought to be instructed on all this other law they
22 have cited in the jury instructions for this reason: It
23 doesn't matter what the law is. What matters is her good
24 faith belief.
25 THE COURT: That's correct. That's correct. I
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1 think you're right on that. I'm not going to take the
2 final arguments on that right now. But that -- that's
3 kind of been the focus. I'm trying to get a set of
4 instructions that we can work from.
5 MR. MURPHY: Right.
6 THE COURT: I'm going to go back and refer to
7 the W-4s throughout, and that's where I'm going to be on
8 that. I suppose you could argue other things, and so I'm
9 not going to -- I'm giving a little more instruction on
10 what is an affirmative act of evasion. I'm just going to
11 give a little more instruction on that and make it
12 perfectly clear that omissions are not acts of evasion.
13 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
14 THE COURT: All right.
15 MR. MURPHY: And I have I have no objection to
16 that.
17 THE COURT: It's a little helpful to me.
18 Are we going to have any witnesses after --
19 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I think we have got
20 one witness that -- we were going to bring one in, but I
21 think we have got enough stipulation on that or at least
22 Mr. Murphy is not going to object, and I was going to meet
23 with one other witness tonight, but, you know, I might
24 after -- he wouldn't be -- his name is Don Winfield, he
25 wouldn't be but about 30 minutes, but there's a distinct
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1 possibility I might just say forget him.
2 THE COURT: Well, I don't want to get into your
3 thought process.
4 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. I'm just telling the
5 court.
6 THE COURT: I think you're warning Mr. Murphy
7 and me that we may be to the jury pretty quickly, and I do
8 appreciate that. Okay. Gentlemen and ladies, we will see
9 you tomorrow at 9:00 o'clock.
10 MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Your Honor.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Judge.
12 THE CLERK: All rise.
13 (Court adjourned at 4:55 p.m.)
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
WESTERN DIVISION
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
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Plaintiff, )
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VS. ) NO. 03-20111-Ml
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VERNICE KUGLIN, )
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Defendant. )
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TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE HONORABLE JON PHIPPS MCCALLA, JUDGE
AUGUST 6, 2003
VOLUME III
BRENDA PARKER
OFFICIAL REPORTER
SUITE 942 FEDERAL BUILDING
167 NORTH MAIN STREET
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 38103
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A P P E A R A N C E S
Appearing on behalf of the Plaintiff:
TERRELL L. HARRIS, ESQ.
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
SUITE 800 FEDERAL BUILDING
167 NORTH MAIN STREET
MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 38103
By: JOSEPH MURPHY, ESQ.
Appearing on behalf of the Defendant:
LOWELL H. BECRAFT, JR.
209 LINCOLN STREET
HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA 35801
ROBERT G. BERNHOFT, ESQ.
207 EAST BUFFALO STREET
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 53202
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BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 499 11
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MR. MURPHY: ........................ 568 19
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. BECRAFT: ....................... 627 13
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E X H I B I T I N D E X
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Exhibit Number 28 2-3-53 Document 506 16
Exhibit Number 29 1997 Annual Report 507 9
Exhibit Numbers 30 1040 Instructions 1992 507 24
Exhibit Number 31 1040 Instructions 1993 508 1
Exhibit Number 32 1997 26 CFR 5601.602 508 22
Exhibit Number 33 1998 26 CFR 5601.602 508 24
Exhibit Number 34 1999 26CFR 5601.602 509 1
Exhibit Number 35 Cole v. McFarland Case 509 23
Exhibit Number 36 1975 1040 Instructions 518 23
Exhibit Number 37 IRS Bulletin 538 11
Exhibit Number 38 1993 Form 2555 Instruction5 13
Exhibit Number 39 1993 Form 2555 538 15
Exhibit Number 40 1916 Treasury Decision 544 9
Exhibit Number 41 October 18, 1995 Letter 558 4
Exhibit Number 42 November 25, 1995 Letter 558 6
Exhibit Number 43 Flora Case 571 15
Exhibit Number 44 1992 Tax Return 574 9
Exhibit Number 45 1988 Form 1040 576 7
Exhibit Number 46 1990 W-4 Form 578 13
Exhibit Number 47 Blank Form 1040 580 12
Exhibit Number 48 October 31, 1995 Letter 583 24
Exhibit Number 49 June 16, 1997 Letter 584 21
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Exhibit Number 50 June 16, 1997 Letter 585 12
Exhibit Number 51 June 22, 1999 Letter 585 20
Exhibit Number 52 June 28, 1999 Letter 586 25
Exhibit Number 53 July 6, 1999 Letter 587 13
Exhibit Number 54 October 30, 2000 588 11
Exhibit Number 55 Tax Returns 601 6
Exhibit Number 56 CFR Passages 605 5
Exhibit Number 57 1993 Instructions 621 1
Exhibit Number 58 1995 1040 Instructions 625 24
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1 WEDNESDAY MORNING & AFTERNOON
2 AUGUST 6, 2003
3 The trial in this case resumed on this date,
4 Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 9:00 o'clock a.m., when and
5 where evidence was introduced and proceedings were had as
6 follows:
7
8 ____________
9
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, Ms. White is not here, but
11 she has gone to get some exhibits.
12 THE COURT: Do you need to wait on her?
13 MR. MURPHY: No, we don't need to wait on her.
14 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, could we take up a
15 matter, an evidence question before we bring in the jury?
16 THE COURT: Sure.
17 MR. BECRAFT: I anticipate that Mr. Murphy has
18 got a lot of objections to some of the proposed exhibits
19 that we're going to offer. With reference to that
20 category of exhibits, I'm proceeding with this in mind,
21 and I would like the court to either approve or
22 disapprove. It may take some arguments, and I think it is
23 going to be more beneficial for us to argue the bulk of
24 these motions outside the presence of the jury maybe
25 before a break or after a break or sometime after the
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1 defendant gets off the stand.
2 THE COURT: Have you shown the materials to Mr.
3 Murphy?
4 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I gave the government
5 premarked exhibits.
6 MR. MURPHY: Yes.
7 THE COURT: I think the answer is yes. Do we
8 have objections.
9 MR. MURPHY: Judge, as I said yesterday, and
10 just generally, my objections generally fall into three
11 categories. There are Supreme Court cases and IRS
12 materials, and I would be of the opinion that those are
13 admissible.
14 THE COURT: Are admissible?
15 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
16 THE COURT: All right.
17 MR. MURPHY: And then there are, for lack of a
18 better word, tax protester type materials that may or may
19 not have extensive legal citations. In fact, one of
20 those, it talks about jury nullification and urges people
21 to nullify verdicts. Clearly, some of the text of that
22 may come in, but the document itself wouldn't, and I think
23 the defendant would be allowed to read from it, but I
24 think we need to know in advance what portion she is going
25 to read. And the last group of materials that they seek
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1 to offer are letters from a CPA and an attorney, I believe
2 it is, that represented Ms. Kuglin, and our position would
3 be that those are clear hearsay. They're not -- they
4 don't fit the state of mind exception.
5 THE COURT: Are they letters that she claims to
6 have relied on?
7 MR. BECRAFT: Yes.
8 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, here is the problem.
9 I don't think she can claim to rely on those letters,
10 because at the time they were in the midst of a
11 controversy over the tax matter, and if you look at -- if
12 you look at, I think it's 803, the state of mind
13 exception, it clearly says that you can't offer
14 something -- a statement of belief to prove that belief.
15 And I would submit that's what you're doing in this case.
16 It's 803(3), Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: Oh, I'm not looking for that. I'm
18 looking for the good faith -- bases for good faith. I
19 don't know whether or not a person can rely on -- are
20 these -- I just have to look at the two letters, whatever
21 they are, and see whether they're something on which a
22 person can rely, and I haven't seen those.
23 MR. BECRAFT: Would the court like to look at
24 them now?
25 THE COURT: Sure.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Either my copies or hers. Ms.
2 Kuglin, have you got 43, 44, 45, 46?
3 THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
4 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach the witness, Your
5 Honor?
6 THE COURT: Why don't you hand them to me, I'm
7 the one that has to look at them? Oh, okay. You're
8 right, it doesn't matter. I don't think this letter from
9 Thomas Roberts states an opinion in which a person can
10 rely. This is the one dated November the 26th, 1997.
11 This one of -- I don't think this one of December the 8th,
12 1997 also states an opinion on which a person can rely or
13 even suggest that there's an opinion attempting to be
14 stated on which a person can rely. I don't think this one
15 of January the 20th, 1997 also states an opinion upon
16 which a person could rely from a professional. They just
17 talk about request for documents which are not opinions on
18 which a person can rely. Well, the letter from Mr. Pope
19 also does not state an opinion upon which a person can
20 rely, as far as I can tell.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, can I explain the
22 letters?
23 THE COURT: Excuse me?
24 MR. BECRAFT: And the purpose?
25 THE COURT: Well, they have to fall into an
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1 exception. These are hearsay. And -- and -- clearly, so
2 as a general proposition, they're not admissible.
3 Sometimes a person can obtain an opinion, for example,
4 from -- well, from a CPA, and the CPA can state that they
5 have determined that no tax is owed on a particular -- or
6 as to a particular individual, and that they state that
7 that as a CPA in a professional capacity and advise the
8 client that they need not pay any tax on this particular
9 point.
10 MR. BECRAFT: These are not offered as opinion
11 letters, Your Honor.
12 THE COURT: Well, that's what I understood,
13 they're not opinion letters. Had they been opinion
14 letters, they would be in a different category, that's
15 true.
16 MR. BECRAFT: May I offer additional
17 information to the court on this point?
18 THE COURT: Sure, sure.
19 MR. BECRAFT: I had lined up to deal with the
20 authenticity question. These letters come from Florida,
21 and I had a secretary in an office that was going to come
22 up and prove the mailing of the letters. I don't think
23 the government is making an objection, we have agreed,
24 although the court is hearing about this for the first
25 time, that the question doesn't relate to authenticity.
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1 What we're offering them for is not for opinion or
2 anything else, but what -- the point that we're offering
3 them for is that at Ms. Kuglin's instructions, these
4 gentlemen -- they're tentatively marked 43, 44, 45, 46,
5 just the numbers that appear on the documents, they're
6 offered for the purpose of showing that Ms. Kuglin said or
7 asked questions through her lawyers to the Internal
8 Revenue Service to answer, and she also makes statements,
9 there is letters -- there's statements in here we're
10 willing to pay, the only thing we want to do is we want to
11 have answers to our questions. For example, you know,
12 just to demonstrate to the court, the one that is labeled
13 43 that is dated November the 26th of '97 by Tom Roberts,
14 it says specifically kind of at the bottom of the page --
15 THE COURT: I have read it already, sure. Our
16 client is not refusing to pay and, in fact, will pay any
17 lawful tax owed once the Internal Revenue Service complies
18 with our request as outlines in this document and, of
19 course, it begins earlier, since our client has never been
20 given documents by the IRS, which clearly state specific
21 taxes the IRS claims -- see, that's not how it works,
22 unfortunately, or however you want to look at it. In our
23 system, the IRS doesn't send them a bill, you send them in
24 materials which are reported.
25 I need to go take a phone call in the back,
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1 apparently, and we will come back and look at this, but I
2 think probably -- well, we will come back and talk about
3 it for a second.
4 (Recess taken at 9:15 until 9:20 a.m.)
5 THE COURT: All right. Anything else from the
6 United States on these letters?
7 MR. MURPHY: No, sir, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: Anything else from the defense?
9 MR. BECRAFT: Yes, Your Honor. These four
10 letters, there is a series of documents that I consider to
11 be the core of the defense. First is the documents that
12 have already been admitted in evidence, it's the exempt
13 Form W-4 dated December, 1995, that is authored by Ms.
14 Kuglin. Thereafter, in order of importance about exhibits
15 that we're going to cover this morning are two documents
16 that she submitted herself in October and November of
17 1995. Subsequent to that time, we had this series of
18 letters Ms. Kuglin was asked or asked these people, Tom
19 Roberts and Mr. Pope to write letters on her behalf to the
20 Internal Revenue Service asking her fundamental questions
21 and, likewise, at the same time offering to pay.
22 Now, under -- that being the case, it is our
23 position that it goes to her state of mind, which is the
24 most important factor that I think the jury has got to
25 decide in this case. She read these letters. She said
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1 that she would make an offer -- she would pay the IRS, she
2 had no objections to paying the tax, she just wanted her
3 questions answered. That, Your Honor, goes to reliance,
4 state of mind as well as intent, and these -- these
5 letters are real important for the intent question, what
6 was her frame of mind. She wanted her questions answered,
7 she was willing to pay, and to me, that -- those are real
8 important facts that demonstrate a lack of intent to
9 commit tax evasion.
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if you look again at
11 803(3), this is being offered as a statement of belief to
12 prove the belief, and it's not admissible. We're -- where
13 these letters emanated from was an IRS proceeding to levy
14 on the defendant's property, and what that -- what that
15 would tend to do, I would submit to the court, is create a
16 situation where there was a motive to lie, and the
17 reliability factor that you typically have in a hearsay
18 statement, because it's on the spot type of thing just
19 wouldn't apply, and, therefore, we would submit that they
20 ought not to come in. They're just hearsay, there's no
21 way around it.
22 THE COURT: Well, the exception that's asserted
23 by the defense is 803(3), as I understand, and the
24 government simply argues that it doesn't apply. That rule
25 as to hearsay exception says the following are not
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1 excluded by the hearsay rule even though the declarant is
2 available as a witness; three, then existing mental,
3 emotional or physical condition. A statement of the
4 declarant's then existing state of mind, emotion,
5 sensation or physical condition such as intent, plan,
6 motive, design, mental feeling, pain and bodily health,
7 but not including a statement of memory or belief to prove
8 a fact remembered or believed unless it relates to the
9 execution, revocation, identification or terms of
10 declarant's will. So this particular exception to the
11 hearsay rule does not apply to the letters submitted from
12 Mr. Roberts and from Mr. Pope. Objection by the United
13 States is sustained.
14 All right. Anything else?
15 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor, you wanted
16 me to advise the court what our position would be as to a
17 lesser included offense.
18 THE COURT: Yes, I did.
19 MR. MURPHY: And our position is going to be
20 that the jury should not be charged with the lesser
21 included offense given the nature of the charge in this
22 case.
23 THE COURT: Anything from the defense on that?
24 MR. BECRAFT: Well, I offered one, I offered a
25 lesser included instruction.
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1 THE COURT: Right, but --
2 MR. BECRAFT: I think under the facts of this
3 case, the indictment alleges, if part of the offense is
4 committed by a willful failure to file. My position is
5 that terminology -- just by the plain terms of the
6 indictment itself includes the lesser included offense and
7 willful failure to file, 7203.
8 MR. MURPHY: But, Judge, if you look at the
9 defense they're offering, as I understand it, what the
10 witness has testified to, she had no duty to file a tax
11 return, and that's just not consistent with the defense
12 that's offered.
13 THE COURT: Well, there is discussion about the
14 inclusion of lesser included offense in pattern jury
15 instruction 8.07 of the Sixth Circuit pattern jury
16 instructions, and this does not appear to be a case where
17 the court should include the lesser included offense
18 instruction, so I'll sustain the position by the United
19 States.
20 There's some discussion of this in the notes
21 contained with -- or the comments contained with 8.07, and
22 I do agree with the United States that this is not --
23 certainly not required and it's not appropriate in my
24 determination in this case. That takes care of that
25 point.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: One other matter, Your Honor,
2 before the -- we dealt with the letters. The only other
3 point is that should we, on a piece-meal basis, handle the
4 rest of the exhibits or should we take them up outside the
5 presence of the jury was my offer?
6 THE COURT: Well, you know, the -- I haven't
7 looked at each of the -- Supreme Court cases and materials
8 from the Internal Revenue Service can be used. I mean
9 they're published materials, they're available for
10 everybody, and the law allows an individual to rely on
11 Supreme Court decisions, it allows individuals to rely
12 upon IRS materials, and so those can be used.
13 As to materials by other people or entities,
14 they fall in the same problem as any other type of
15 hearsay, and unless it is a learned treatise on tax law,
16 certainly read from and not necessarily have been
17 admitted, but refer to that sort of material, but it has
18 to meet some test to show that it is -- that it falls in
19 the an exception of the hearsay rule. Otherwise, we would
20 get up and read from the Marvel Comics or the Wall Street
21 Journal either one, and it would not be -- although parts
22 of the Journal -- part of the Journal are judicial notice
23 materials like the interest rate portions, but articles in
24 the newspaper would not be admissible themselves. So I
25 think that -- we know that they will not be admissible.
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1 Now, that's our situation. If -- how much material do we
2 have like that?
3 MR. BECRAFT: Well, Your Honor, I slipped to
4 the court a proposed exhibit list. I have committed a
5 grave error by numbering mine in advance. Bad habits stop
6 slowly, Your Honor. But you can take a look at the
7 exhibit list, and what I will do -- I think it's something
8 we can probably take care of in short order outside the
9 presence of the jury is all I'm saying. I could lay the
10 foundation for some of these documents. I'm not going to
11 offer a lot of these. I will take into consideration what
12 the court has already said and move some of that in, but
13 there's some that I think probably require a separate
14 consideration, separate arguments that I anticipate coming
15 from Mr. Murphy.
16 THE COURT: Well, you have a lot of things,
17 these various opinions, interesting question about using
18 the ones that are very old, but I think you can clarify
19 them. CFR, there's no question about that, is there, Mr.
20 Murphy?
21 MR. MURPHY: No, sir, Your Honor, I believe
22 that's admissible.
23 MR. BECRAFT: And we have some forms, but then
24 there's a lot of other material that is not IRS and
25 everything else.
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1 THE COURT: We have covered the things that you
2 listed as 43, 44, 45, 46. Ms. Kuglin's own correspondence
3 to the agency typically not admissible as a general
4 proposition because everybody can write their own material
5 and then would be able to introduce into evidence, but
6 sometimes it's received because there's no opposition, as
7 an admission, for example. So I don't know what the
8 government will say about those things.
9 MR. BECRAFT: I'll do whatever the court wants.
10 I will move them into evidence as we take them up.
11 THE COURT: Why don't we deal with them as they
12 come up? I did get the list though, thanks.
13 Are we ready?
14 MR. BECRAFT: We are, Your Honor.
15 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: Yes, Your Honor.
16 (Jury in at 9:40 a.m.)
17 THE COURT: Everybody can be seated. I'm sorry
18 we're starting a little late. The -- we did take up some
19 documents that -- as to which objections could be dealt
20 with in advance and ruled on those rather than our doing
21 those at side bars. There are going to be some other
22 documents that as they come up, we will probably try to
23 deal with at side bar. If we can't do it quickly, we will
24 take another break and deal with them. That way, we're
25 not causing you to have to sit out here while we're trying
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1 to sort through the objections under the Rules of
2 Evidence.
3 The Rules of Evidence do dictate which type
4 documents can be received and the reasons that they can be
5 received, and it does take a little bit of time to go
6 through each document to make sure they can come in or
7 not. I think we're ready to proceed.
8 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court.
9 THE COURT: Go right ahead.
10 DIRECT EXAMINATION (CONTINUED)
11 BY MR. BECRAFT:
12 Q. Ms. Kuglin, yesterday we had finished a particular
13 topic, and I would like to move on to a different aspect of
14 your testimony.
15 Between 1992 and early 1995 or maybe late 1995, can you
16 describe for us what you were doing in reference to generally
17 studying the income tax laws?
18 A. Well, after I had reviewed the cases and the
19 constitutional restrictions on taxation and the other study
20 materials I had, I had come to the conclusion that there was
21 definitely a question about whether or not I was liable for
22 the income tax. So I decided it was time that I really delve
23 into the tax code itself and the 1040 form, which is a
24 document that the IRS has asked Americans to complete.
25 Q. Let me stop you right there. Do you have in front of
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1 you a document that's called file folder one?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Okay. Now, is this something that during that time
4 frame that I just mentioned, is this something that you read
5 and relied upon?
6 A. Yes, it is. As I was going to the different
7 conventions and listening to different speakers, I picked up
8 fliers, information, newspaper articles and such like that
9 which substantiate or which discuss -- did not substantiate,
10 but discussed and raised questions which became kind of a road
11 map for the rest of my study.
12 Q. Is there something that you read in this -- identify
13 for me, please, this number one.
14 A. The first exhibit or this first document is entitled
15 Who Is Required To File A Tax Return. It's written by a lady
16 by the name of Claire Kelly, and she was a columnist who had
17 done a lot of research in the arena of taxation.
18 Q. And what was the general theme that you gathered from
19 this and how did it relate to your beliefs?
20 A. The general theme was much of what I had discussed
21 yesterday in regard to direct taxes, indirect taxes. She
22 quoted Supreme Court cases such as the Brushaber case, the
23 McFarland case and just a little bit more explanation as to
24 the fact that the source of income was very, very important in
25 deciding whether or not that income fell in the category of
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1 direct taxes which the federal government could only levy a
2 portion -- excuse me, through apportionment and send the bill
3 to the state, and that -- which was considered the source
4 which fell under excise taxes or indirect taxes which had to
5 be uniform throughout the state.
6 Q. Now --
7 A. Or the country.
8 Q. Could I get you to identify the next document that has
9 a two on it?
10 A. This document is entitled Who Is a Taxpayer? And this,
11 again, is an article written by Claire Kelly. You want me to
12 continue?
13 Q. Yes, tell us what you gathered from reading that
14 document.
15 A. One of the first things -- it starts out by saying the
16 revenue laws are a code or a system of regulation, a tax
17 assessment and collection. They relate to taxpayers and not
18 to nontaxpayers and what this placed in my mind was the idea
19 that not every one is a taxpayer, and the article goes on to
20 say that the income is allaying of an excise tax upon a
21 taxable event, that the income tax law or -- that was
22 initially debated in 1909 and then passed in 1913 was actually
23 originally named the corporation tax of 1909. And it goes --
24 the article goals on and quotes some of the court cases that I
25 talked about yesterday, Redfield versus Fisher, and explained
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1 that there are taxpayers and there are tax payers. Taxpayers
2 are those which are entities of the government, corporations,
3 trusts and things like that, and then there are individuals
4 who are tax payers. They pay the indirect taxes, the gas
5 taxes, the wheel taxes and such like that. So it gave me a
6 much clearer understanding that not everybody is considered a
7 taxpayer.
8 Q. Let me direct your attention to the next document that
9 has a three on it.
10 A. This document is entitled -- excuse me -- this document
11 is entitled Deceptive IRS Code Words, and it was published by
12 an organization entitled the Free State Constitutionists. And
13 this talks about the words income, the word person, the word
14 taxpayer, shall and must. And it discusses the fact that the
15 common everyday usage of certain words is not necessarily the
16 legal usage of that word. And I would say an example that I
17 found in my personal life that if somebody in my generation,
18 somebody walked up to me and said, Ms. Kuglin, you are bad.
19 Well, I didn't have a very good feeling because I considered
20 that to be a derogatory statement towards me. The younger
21 generation, someone comes up to me and says, Ms. Kuglin, you
22 are bad, then I understand that they're not being derogatory
23 to me, they actually are paying me a compliment, and so we
24 have to understand what the semantics of words mean, and
25 that's what this document really laid out for me. The idea
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1 that income is determined by where the source is, that the
2 named person can mean an individual, it can be a corporation,
3 it can be a trust, a savings and loan association, a
4 homeowners association. The person can either be a live being
5 or it can be an artificial entity, and -- so you have to
6 understand the context in which the code or the regulations
7 use the term person. Taxpayer, again, as Claire Kelly defined
8 taxpayer could either mean a taxpayer, corporation, entity or
9 person, or it could be a tax payer, somebody who voluntarily
10 pays their -- you know, pays the indirect tax, sales taxes and
11 such. Then they come to the word shall and must. Now,
12 typically, we think that the word shall is mandatory. But
13 there are court cases, and it covers -- let me read through
14 here just quickly. Well, I'm not placing my eyes right now on
15 the court cases that talk about this, but it said that the
16 words must and shall are applied in relationship to a
17 liability or a requirement. In other words, if you have a
18 liability, then you must. But then if there is no liability
19 or requirement for specific tax, but a person voluntarily
20 decides that they want to go ahead and pay it, then it is used
21 in the term may. Yes, you may be -- you may do whatever you
22 want to. If you feel that you want to pay a tax that you have
23 no liability for, there's nothing that stops you.
24 Q. Let me move on the next exhibit, number -- it has a
25 number on it, 5 or 4A.
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1 A. 4A. This is a newspaper --
2 Q. You acquired this during your early days in which you
3 began your study?
4 A. Yes, yes, I did.
5 Q. And you read it?
6 A. Yes, I did.
7 Q. Did you acquire certain information by reading the
8 document?
9 A. Yes, I did. This was really an advertisement for
10 another document. I did not order the document, but what
11 struck me was that this was in USA Today, a fairly prominent
12 paper, it was an advertisement that an attorney at law took
13 out, a man by the name of James Knowles, and it says that
14 James Knowles spends his year penetrating the owners Internal
15 Revenue Service Code to find that most likely you don't have a
16 liability to pay a set of taxes. He's a member of the
17 California bar and has practiced law for 34 years, since his
18 graduation from prestigious Hastings School of Law.
19 The importance of -- or what I found in this
20 information was that it wasn't -- I was not the only person
21 asking or beginning to question my liability status, that
22 there were attorneys, there were people who were publishing
23 this information and asking the questions in national
24 newspapers and such like that.
25 Q. Let me direct your attention to a document that is
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1 labeled 4A.
2 A. This document is entitled Must You Pay the Income Tax.
3 And this -- I'm not quite sure how I attained it, but it was
4 from the Mutual Assistance Plan, which is an organization out
5 in Pima, Arizona at that time, and this was during the same
6 time period as I was trying -- gathering information trying to
7 find clues to the answer of the liability of income tax. And
8 it states: Liability is established by voluntary assessment.
9 Now, some of the cases that were mentioned in this -- and this
10 article actually directed me to the -- to finding the
11 Brushaber case, the Flint versus Stone Tracy case and some of
12 the others. And it says that before World War II, payments or
13 profit received by individuals in even exchange for their
14 labor were not connoisseured to be subject to income taxes.
15 And, of course, we know in Brushaber, it says -- Brushaber
16 defined the word income because Congress had not defined it.
17 As a matter of fact, in the debates, congressional debates on
18 the 16th Amendment, which are very fascinating, I would
19 encourage everybody to read, Congress -- the legislature could
20 never come up with a definite definition of the word income as
21 applicable taxes, and it was understood that they were
22 considered to be excise taxes and, therefore, fell under the
23 uniformity clause.
24 Q. Let me direct your attention to -- let's go back to
25 something we covered yesterday, the document that has a 5 on
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1 the front.
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. I believe you talked about that yesterday.
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Is this something you read and relied upon?
6 A. Yes, it is. It was one of the first documents I got.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, at this time, I would
8 move for the admission of the document she has in her hand
9 that I have a big 5 on in the lower right -- left corner.
10 MR. MURPHY: No objection, Your Honor.
11 THE COURT: It is received as the next numbered
12 exhibit.
13 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, can I approach and
14 give it to the clerk?
15 THE COURT: Yes, it will be 28.
16 (Exhibit Number 28 was marked. Description:
17 2-3-53 Document.)
18 THE WITNESS: Your Honor, is it all right if I
19 put these papers right here?
20 THE COURT: Sure, that's no problem at all.
21 Q. Yesterday, you talked about the document that I have a
22 big 6 on.
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Is this something you read and relied upon?
25 A. Yes, it is.
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1 Q. Does it appear to you to be an official document?
2 A. It does. Actually, this is a copy of the official
3 government document.
4 MR. MURPHY: I have no objection, Your Honor.
5 THE COURT: All right. We will make that 29, I
6 think.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: 29.
9 (Exhibit Number 29 was marked. Description:
10 1997 Annual Report.)
11 Q. Do you have in your hand the ones that have 6, 7 and
12 8 -- 7, 8 and 9, I'm sorry. No, 7 and 8.
13 A. 7 and 8, I was getting a little confused here.
14 Q. Correct me if I'm wrong, these are parts of the '92 and
15 '93 instruction book for Form 1040?
16 A. Yes, they are.
17 Q. You relied upon them and you covered the substance of
18 them yesterday?
19 A. Yes, on the fact that it was a voluntary tax system.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I move for the
21 admission of these two.
22 MR. MURPHY: I have no objection, Your Honor.
23 THE COURT: It's 30 and 31.
24 (Exhibit Numbers 30 was marked. Description:
25 1040 Instructions 1992.)
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1 (Exhibit Number 31 was marked. Description:
2 1040 Instructions 1993.)
3 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach the witness, Your
4 Honor?
5 THE COURT: You may.
6 Q. Can I get you to take a look at the document that had
7 the -- the series of documents that have 13, 14 and 15 on
8 them?
9 A. I have them.
10 Q. Those are official government documents, is that
11 correct?
12 A. Yes, they are copies of the 26 CFR, Chapter 1.
13 Q. And we discussed those yesterday?
14 A. Yes, we did.
15 Q. And you relied upon them?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I move for the
18 admissions of the documents that has 13, 14, and 15 on
19 them.
20 MR. MURPHY: No objection, Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: Certainly. They will 32, 33, 34.
22 (Exhibit Number 32 was marked. Description:
23 1997 26 CFR 5601.602.)
24 (Exhibit Number 33 was marked. Description:
25 1998 26 CFR 5601.602.)
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1 (Exhibit Number 34 was marked. Description:
2 1999 26CFR 5601.602.)
3 Q. Ms. Kuglin, yesterday, we talked about a document,
4 number 19, it's a court case.
5 A. Excuse me.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I have it up here.
7 May I approach?
8 THE COURT: You may.
9 MR. BECRAFT: I stuck it in my stack.
10 Q. Let me hand you a document that has a big 19 at the
11 bottom of it.
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Is that one of the documents or court cases we
14 discussed yesterday afternoon?
15 A. Yes, it is.
16 Q. You read and replied upon it?
17 A. Yes, I did.
18 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I move for the
19 admission of that case.
20 MR. MURPHY: No objection, Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: It will be the next numbered
22 document, which is 35.
23 (Exhibit Number 35 was marked. Description:
24 Cole v. McFarland Case.)
25 Q. Now, Ms. Kuglin, let's move on to a little something
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1 else. Either yesterday afternoon or this morning, you
2 mentioned something about the Internal Revenue Code, and can
3 you describe for us -- I'm looking at something on your --
4 within reach of your left hand, that's kind of either a blue
5 or purple cover, is that something that you bought?
6 A. Yes, it is.
7 Q. And what was it?
8 A. This is entitled -- this is the July, 1994 edition of
9 the complete Internal Revenue Code.
10 Q. And when did you -- would you have acquired that at
11 least in the latter half of '94?
12 A. Yes, sir.
13 Q. Were there certain studies in which you engaged that
14 related to the Internal Revenue Code?
15 A. There were, and on the documents that I had commented
16 on earlier, two of the sections of the code which were
17 specifically specified in those documents as sort of being a
18 road map to the understanding of this issue on liability were
19 two of the sections, 6001 and 6011 of the code. So I wanted
20 to buy a code so I could actually look into it and begin to
21 try to find out for myself whether there was validity to the
22 arguments that I had been hearing.
23 Q. Well, tell us what you did.
24 A. Well, the 1040 form has -- let me get my 1040. I had a
25 1040 form as everybody else does or generally every one else.
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1 Q. Let me stop there. It sounds like you're reaching for
2 a document, would that have a big 23 on it? Is that what
3 you're doing? Oh, okay. Go ahead.
4 A. This is just my prop here. And so in trying to find
5 out or answer my own questions, there's an instruction page on
6 the 1040 form.
7 Q. Can you identify that document that you have in your
8 hand a little bit more completely?
9 A. Yes, I will. This is the 1995 Form 1040.
10 Q. Instruction booklet?
11 A. Instruction booklet, that's correct.
12 Q. What in there was of importance to you?
13 A. The instruction page entitled the Privacy and Paperwork
14 Reduction Act Notice.
15 Q. Tell us about that.
16 A. Well, it says the Privacy Act of 1974 and the Paperwork
17 Reduction Act of 1980 say that we -- say that when we ask you
18 for information, we must first tell you our legal right to ask
19 for the information and why we are asking for it and how it
20 shall be used. We must also tell what could happen if we do
21 not receive it and whether or not your response is voluntary.
22 Now, I -- as I was interested in all the other issues,
23 I wanted to find out what this Privacy Act was all about, how
24 it came about and --
25 Q. Let me stop you right there, did you do some study in
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1 that area to find out what the Privacy Act was?
2 A. Yes, I did.
3 Q. Can you tell us what you did?
4 A. Yes. I got the -- went to the law library and read --
5 excuse me, read the case on the Privacy Act. I found out that
6 the whole purpose of the Privacy Act was because the
7 government or the agencies were sending out a lot of forms. I
8 think they dream up forms in their sleeps, and people were
9 beginning to get confused as to whether or not the forms that
10 were being sent out were required to be returned, whether they
11 were necessary and believed that one OSHA regulation had
12 almost 400 forms, and so people were going to their
13 Congressmen and saying, look, we need some kind of idea or get
14 a handle on this river of paperwork that's coming out. So in
15 1974, the -- Congress passed legislation that basically said
16 any agency of the government which was asking for information
17 or producing information gathering documents must comply with
18 the requirements which I just read, what the authority is to
19 require the document, what the purpose is, what could be done
20 with it and whether or not it was voluntary or mandatory and
21 any repercussions that could happen if the document was
22 mandatory.
23 Q. After you studied this matter that you thought was the
24 Privacy Act itself, what did you do in reference to the income
25 tax?
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1 A. Well, it says further down in the instructions, the IRS
2 complies with the requirement of telling the authority. It
3 says our legal right to ask for the information is the
4 Internal Revenue Code's Section 6001, 6011, and then later on,
5 they added the 6012. So I thought, well, these are the
6 regulations that require me to file the 1040 form. I think I
7 probably ought to read what those sections say.
8 Q. Is that one of the reasons why you obtained the
9 Internal Revenue Code?
10 A. Yes, it is.
11 Q. Well, tell us what you did after that.
12 A. Well, after I got my Internal Revenue Code, I started
13 to get acquainted with it. I found out that there were --
14 there was not just an income tax in the Internal Revenue Code,
15 that this book itself covered over 85 different taxes, that
16 the code is divided out into different sections. You have the
17 income tax, you have estate tax, gift tax, employment taxes,
18 excise taxes, alcohol, tobacco and firearms and procedures.
19 And I found out, turning to the initial section, that the
20 section under income tax has about almost 1600 sections in
21 that part of the code. Now, there's almost, I believe, if I
22 go to the end here, there's over 9000 sections of this code.
23 Only about 1600 actually apply to what the IRS defines as the
24 individual income tax.
25 Q. Now, bearing in mind what you read a minute ago, the
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1 Privacy Act notice appearing in the 1040 instruction booklet,
2 and once you obtained the Internal Revenue Code, can you lead
3 us through what you did when?
4 A. Yes. I went to 6001, because it said that that was the
5 regulation which gave the IRS the authority to ask me to fill
6 out the 1040 form, and what that section, in essence, says is
7 that every person liable for any tax under this title shall
8 keep such records, render such statements, make such returns
9 and comply with such rules and regulations as the secretary
10 from time to time may prescribe. It then goes on to say that
11 whenever the secretary feels it necessary, he may upon -- he
12 may require any person by notice upon such person to make such
13 returns, render such statements and keep such records as the
14 secretary deems sufficient to determine whether or not such
15 person is liable for any tax.
16 Now, when I went to the section, I was expecting it to
17 probably say something like every American who earns wages is
18 liable for the income tax or the individual income tax and,
19 therefore, must fill out the 1040 form. But that, as you can
20 tell, is not what it said. It said every person, and as we
21 discussed before, the term person could mean an individual or
22 corporation or trust, so it didn't give me really any idea as
23 to whether or not I was one of the persons that this section
24 talked about. Again, it says any person liable for any tax
25 under this title. Well, this entire book is called the title.
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1 There are sections and subsections, but this is the title. So
2 what that 6001 said, any person liable for any one of the 85
3 taxes under here would be required to fill out the form.
4 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, could we approach?
5 THE COURT: You may.
6 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
7 bench.)
8 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to interpose an
9 objection. She is just rambling on and on and on.
10 MR. BECRAFT: I will ask questions.
11 MR. MURPHY: It is supposed to be questions and
12 answers.
13 THE COURT: Objection sustained. The process
14 needs to proceed in accordance with 611.
15 (The following proceedings were had in open
16 court.)
17 Q. Ms. Kuglin?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Let me ask a question and give us an answer, okay?
20 A. All right.
21 Q. Now -- you read the Internal Revenue Code, Section
22 6001?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And had directed your attention to that section,
25 correct?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. Can you identify what it was that directed your
3 attention to Section 6001?
4 A. Yes, it was the 1040 form, the Privacy Act information
5 in the 1040 form.
6 Q. The privacy notice itself?
7 A. Right, the statement in the instructions 1040 booklet.
8 Q. Okay.
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Can I direct your attention to a document that you
11 should have up there that has a big 23 on it? I would like to
12 identify it as being a 1975 document relating to your --
13 A. Right in front of me, yes.
14 Q. Can you identify number 23 for us, please?
15 A. Oh, yes, this was after I had read the Privacy Act, I
16 had -- actually, I had looked back at some other forms. I had
17 found that I had a 1975 1040 form. The Privacy Act was passed
18 in 1974. I had been audited in 1975 and I had kept the
19 documentation for that. Inside of that form was also a
20 Privacy Act notification, and this was the time that I had
21 initially read it when I was completing my 1040 form. At that
22 time in 1975, it really did not make sense to me, and it just
23 began making sense or becoming important in my thought process
24 after I had read some of the articles and the questions of the
25 6001 and the 6011 had come up.
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1 Q. That document that you have in front of you, it's your
2 excerpts of official government documents?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. What you kept in reference to the 1975 1040 instruction
5 booklet?
6 A. That's correct.
7 Q. And that's something you kept for your own personal
8 business affairs, is that correct?
9 A. That's correct.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I would move for the
11 admission of the document that has a big 23 on it.
12 THE COURT: Without objection, it will be
13 received as 36.
14 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could approach.
15 THE COURT: All right. Let me take a look at
16 the document.
17 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
18 bench.)
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, the only thing I object to,
20 the government language is fine, but her filling out the
21 tax return, I don't think that comes in.
22 MR. BECRAFT: I don't have any problem with
23 extracting it, Judge.
24 MR. MURPHY: You need to turn your mic off.
25 MR. BECRAFT: I thought I had it off, I'm
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1 sorry.
2 THE COURT: Let me get the --
3 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if they want to put a
4 photocopy in of the front and the back --
5 MR. BECRAFT: Excise --
6 THE COURT: This is a 1975 return. How is this
7 relevant?
8 MR. BECRAFT: What's relevant, Your Honor, is
9 this right here, this is a government document. I think
10 the government's objection is -- I didn't want to in
11 advance tear out those pages. I think those pages are
12 something that you can excise with ease.
13 MR. MURPHY: Yeah, just make a photocopy.
14 MR. BECRAFT: I have got photocopies.
15 THE COURT: You want me to take this page out?
16 I'm not sure -- it just comes out.
17 MR. BECRAFT: I'm satisfied.
18 THE COURT: Okay.
19 (The following proceedings were had in open
20 court.)
21 THE COURT: The government portion of the form
22 is received as Exhibit 36.
23 (Exhibit Number 36 was marked. Description:
24 1975 1040 Instructions.)
25 Q. Ms. Kuglin, do you need that document? Do you need --
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1 A. No, I don't.
2 Q. All right. So after you compared the Privacy Act
3 notice that appeared in the 1975 1040 instruction booklet,
4 what was your next step?
5 A. Well, the next step after I had read through the
6 section on 6001, I still did not have a clear definition of
7 whether or not I was a person that fit under this liability
8 requirement for the tax imposed. The next section that was
9 referred to in the Privacy Act notice was Section 6011. So I
10 turned to 6011, and it says general requirement of return
11 statements or less. It goes on to say when required by
12 regulation prescribed by the secretary, any person made liable
13 for any tax imposed by this title with respect -- or with
14 respect to the collection thereof shall make a return or
15 statement according to the rules and regulations -- excuse me,
16 according to the forms and regulations provided -- prescribed
17 by the secretary.
18 Well, now, this -- the first section has said that any
19 person liable, but it really didn't identify me as a person
20 liable. The second section 6011 said any person made liable,
21 but again we have got the words person, and for any tax under
22 this title, but it didn't identify how I was made liable for
23 the tax.
24 Q. What was so important in your mind about being liable
25 for a tax?
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1 A. Well, in the Privacy Act notice it had -- it said --
2 had mentioned the word liable for the tax and that these were
3 the -- 6001, 6011 were the regulations in which I could
4 determine this.
5 Q. Okay. Was it your understanding that being liable for
6 a tax had some relationship to being required to file a
7 return?
8 A. Absolutely.
9 Q. Okay. What did you believe about someone who was not
10 liable for a tax?
11 A. Well, if a person was not liable for the tax, then the
12 rules and regulations did not apply to them.
13 Q. A person that would not be liable for a tax, would he
14 be in your view required to file a return?
15 A. No, he would not be.
16 Q. Did you make any effort to determine other sections of
17 the Internal Revenue Code and their relationship to the word
18 liable?
19 A. I did. Since 6001 and 6011 were the sections that
20 supposedly made me liable and that I could not find that it
21 had, I had, in going through my code, as most reference
22 documents are, there is an index in the beginning of the book,
23 and so I thought, well, if I look under the terms income or
24 tax or liability, which was what I was looking for, that I
25 would find perhaps some indicators where I could see how --
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1 examples of this liability. So I found under this section
2 of -- let me get it, liability, I found liability for tax.
3 And the first entry --
4 Q. Let me stop you right there. When you say you found
5 something, a liability for tax, can you put it into context,
6 what are you reading from?
7 A. I'm reading from the index to the code.
8 Q. Okay.
9 A. I'm trying to find if there's a section in the code
10 that explains how a person is liable, how they're made liable,
11 since I didn't find it in the 6001, 6011 section.
12 Q. When you turned to that index, what was your purpose?
13 A. My purpose was to find some words or some reference
14 to -- in regard to liability, maybe I could find how a person
15 was made liable and who was made liable.
16 Q. What did you do?
17 A. Well, after I found this liability for tax, the first
18 entry was alcohol taxes, and it said Section 5005 and 5041, so
19 I turned to Section 5005, and Section 5005 entitled Persons
20 Liable for Tax. Well, this, you know, seemed like I was in
21 the right place, I was trying to find out if I was a person
22 liable for the tax. And it says in general, the distiller or
23 importer of distilled spirits shall be liable for the taxes
24 imposed thereon by Section 5001. Well, this was very clear to
25 me, I thought, they know how to tell a person who is liable.
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1 This was not confusing like the 6001 and 6011, it says the
2 distiller or importer shall be liable. Since it referred me
3 back to 5001, I went to Section 5001, it says imposition, rate
4 and attachment of tax, rate of tax, in general. There is
5 hereby imposed on all distilled spirits produced in or
6 imported into the United States a tax at the rate of $13.50 on
7 each proof gallon and a proportionate tax at the like rate and
8 on all fractional parts of a gallon. Now, that again was very
9 clear to me, I knew exactly what they were talking about, who
10 they were talking about and what tax they were talking about.
11 I also found it interesting that this Section 5001 is
12 in subtitle E of the tax code which is entitled Alcohol,
13 Tobacco and Certain Excise Taxes, and as I went through the
14 section a little bit more, it talks about tobacco taxes and
15 other types, and it's basically the same format. The
16 manufacturer, the wholesaler is made liable and -- for the tax
17 imposed.
18 Q. What conclusions -- by engaging in this study of some
19 other tax, what conclusions did you draw?
20 A. Well, I drew the conclusion that when -- in the
21 arena -- and I found this in the arena of the excise tax, that
22 it was very easy for the IRS to specify exactly who's liable,
23 what tax they're liable for, what the amount of tax is and
24 there was no fussiness about it.
25 Q. Did you study anything beyond what you just mentioned,
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1 the alcohol tax?
2 A. I did, because the alcohol tax is not in subtitle A
3 and, of course, the tax that the IRS says that the 1040 form
4 is applicable to is -- excuse me -- is the individual income
5 tax, which is in Section 1 of subtitle A. So I decided to
6 look through the index of the code, starting first with
7 liability for tax, to see if there was any section that fell
8 under the first, say, 1600 sections of the code, which are
9 applicable to individual income tax, and as I'm going down
10 through the list, I see aviation, fuel tax, banking,
11 employment taxes, highway motor occupational taxes, tobacco,
12 all these other taxes, and I get all the way down here right
13 underneath wines, it has an entry, withholding tax, and I
14 thought, well, I know that my employer is withholding money
15 out of my check, and right next to it I see Section 1461.
16 1461 falls into the criteria of the sections of subtitle A --
17 MR. MURPHY: Judge, can we approach?
18 THE COURT: You may.
19 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
20 bench.)
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
22 rambling, narrative nature of this testimony, it's
23 improper.
24 THE COURT: It's really -- we do have to follow
25 question and answer format.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: I'll do it, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: I didn't say anything earlier to
3 the witness or the jury, but it's time that I told them
4 that we are required to follow question and answer format.
5 MR. BECRAFT: I will do it, Your Honor.
6 THE COURT: Okay.
7 (The following proceedings were had in open
8 court.)
9 THE COURT: Ladies and gentlemen, we are
10 required to follow a question and answer format, and
11 typically narrative testimony is not allowed. That
12 doesn't mean that the person can't answer a question with
13 a full sentence or maybe a paragraph, but it does have to
14 follow a fairly short answer -- question and answer
15 format. The reason for that is that under Rule 611 of the
16 Rules of Evidence, it's contemplated that we will use that
17 format so that the opposing party can have an opportunity
18 to raise objections to improper questions or questions
19 that are not allowed by the rules and, frankly, so that
20 all of us can more readily follow the testimony. It's
21 been found, typically, that the better format is a
22 question and answer format, so we have been discussing
23 that, and I thought by saying that and explaining a little
24 bit to the witness, because you wouldn't necessarily know
25 that, that it would be helpful to all of us. So we have
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1 to have a question followed by an answer that is
2 responsive to the question, and then the next question.
3 We're going to try to do that.
4 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
5 THE COURT: Thank you.
6 THE WITNESS: I have been accused of the gift
7 of gab.
8 THE COURT: Well, we're going to hopefully
9 solve the question or problem by making it a little
10 briefer.
11 THE WITNESS: Okay.
12 THE COURT: A little briefer.
13 Q. Now, you were going through that index to the Internal
14 Revenue Code looking for some other section that referenced
15 liability, a section that might fall within the range of the
16 income tax sections of the code, is that correct?
17 A. That's correct.
18 Q. Were you able to find such?
19 A. Yes, I did.
20 Q. Okay. After you found -- tell us what you found.
21 A. I found 14 -- Section 1461, it says liability for tax
22 withheld.
23 Q. Now, you found that in the index?
24 A. Yes, I did.
25 Q. Did you do something in response?
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1 A. I looked -- well, I checked to make sure that it was in
2 the first 1600 sections of the subtitle A, individual income
3 tax.
4 Q. By chance, did you happen to turn to that section?
5 A. Yes, I did.
6 Q. After you turned to that section in the Internal
7 Revenue Code, can you explain what you did?
8 A. I read the section.
9 Q. And did you learn something from it?
10 A. Yes, I did. The section says every person required to
11 deduct and withhold any tax under this chapter is hereby made
12 liable for such tax.
13 Q. Now, did you do any -- once you read that code section,
14 did you kind of look -- read anything else that related to it?
15 A. I -- I drew a conclusion that the person that was
16 liable for the tax was a person -- was somebody who was
17 required to hold and -- deduct and withhold for that tax
18 and --
19 Q. And did you make any effort to determine who that was?
20 A. Yes, I went on, and further on in the section, it talks
21 about the -- excuse me.
22 Q. Let me -- did you study 1461, the code section that you
23 just mentioned to determine who that party was that was
24 liable?
25 A. Yes, I did.
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1 Q. Okay. And can you tell us what you learned?
2 A. Yes, I learned that this 1461 is in the code section,
3 which is entitled withholding on foreign taxpayers, and the
4 beginning of the section, I turned to the beginning of the
5 section, which is chapter 3, because -- and it says the
6 withholding tax on nonresident aliens and foreign
7 corporations, so this led me to understand that Section 1461
8 was applicable to the withholding agents of nonresident aliens
9 and foreign corporations.
10 Q. Now, this was one section that you had located inside
11 the Internal Revenue Code that related to the income tax,
12 correct?
13 A. That's correct.
14 Q. And it used the words in the statute itself liable,
15 correct?
16 A. That's correct.
17 Q. What, if any, effort did you make to determine whether
18 or not there were any other similar sections inside the
19 Internal Revenue Code in reference to the income tax?
20 A. I --
21 Q. Were there any others that you found?
22 A. Yes, there were others that I found. There were -- as
23 far as a person made liable and liable for the tax, this
24 Section 1461 was the only section under subtitle A.
25 Q. Okay. So you found others in reference to other types
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1 of taxes?
2 A. That's correct, in alcohol, tobacco, excises and the
3 other sections of the code, yes, but in this particular code,
4 in the first 1600 sections of the code, which is individual,
5 subtitle A, I found nothing else.
6 Q. So what conclusions did you draw as a result?
7 A. Well, the conclusion that seemed logical to me was, as
8 the tax code was saying, that the only person liable for the
9 individual income tax under subtitle A was the withholding
10 agent for foreign -- I'm sorry, for nonresident aliens and
11 foreign corporations, and my income as a pilot did not fall
12 under that category.
13 Q. Did you consider yourself a nonresident alien?
14 A. No, I didn't, I'm an American citizen.
15 Q. Did you consider yourself a foreign corporation?
16 A. No, I didn't.
17 Q. Were you making payments of income to nonresident
18 aliens or foreign corporations?
19 A. No, I was not.
20 Q. All right. With that in mind, did you believe or have
21 any belief as to whether you were required to file a federal
22 income tax return?
23 A. Well, this indicated to me based on the Privacy Act
24 saying that 6001 and 6011 were the regulations that required
25 me to complete the form, that I was not a person required to
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1 file that form based on 1461.
2 Q. Now, let me direct your attention to -- there should be
3 a document in front of you that has a big 24 on it.
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Do you have it in front of you?
6 A. I do.
7 Q. Okay. Is that a document that you obtained somewhere
8 in this time frame between '93 and maybe late '95?
9 A. Yes, it is.
10 Q. Is that something that you read?
11 A. I did.
12 Q. Okay. Tell us what you gathered by reading that
13 particular document?
14 A. Well, by reading the document, it starts out with 26
15 CFR 1.1-1, tax on individuals, and the discussion in the form
16 is about something known as an OMB number and a cross
17 reference.
18 Q. Okay. Did you engage in or make any effort -- you
19 mentioned this term OMB, what that might mean?
20 A. Yes, I did. I did some research and found out that the
21 OMB numbers were numbers required on the forms and that the
22 Congressional Act, the Paperwork Reduction Act was the
23 legislation which required these numbers to be put on forms.
24 Q. You mentioned congressional legislation, the Paperwork
25 Reduction Act. What, if any, effort did you make to determine
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1 what that was and what it required?
2 A. Again, went down to find the law, and read it and
3 got -- made myself familiar with what the requirements of the
4 Paper Reduction Act was.
5 Q. Tell us what you learned as a consequence.
6 A. I learned that similar to the Privacy Act, Congress and
7 agencies had been producing a lot of paperwork, a lot of forms
8 and people were getting confused as to which forms that were
9 required. So by 1980 -- I believe it was 1980, the --
10 Congress passed the Paperwork Reduction Act. What this act
11 said was that every agency -- I need to back up about the law
12 a little bit, if I might.
13 Q. Okay. What is it about the law that was important to
14 you?
15 A. The way the laws are promulgated, the -- Congress
16 passes a law, the law is then given to the agency which is
17 responsible for developing the regulations to fit that law,
18 and those regulations have to be published in what is called
19 the Federal Registry, which is the citizens newspaper advising
20 us of what the government is anticipating to do with us, and
21 once those -- the public has the ability to comment --
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we approach?
23 THE COURT: You may.
24 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
25 bench.)
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1 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm getting a little
2 concerned that we're going beyond talking about her
3 beliefs into what the law is, and I don't believe that's a
4 correct statement of the law.
5 MR. BECRAFT: I anticipated that in advance,
6 and I told the jury yesterday, correct me if I'm wrong,
7 but I think I brought that issue up when we were going
8 through voir dire, but I know that I did it in my opening
9 statement, and I know that I --
10 THE COURT: I think Mr. Murphy is right, we're
11 sort of trying to tell what the law is. I will just
12 remind the jury that at the end of the case, I will give
13 the instructions as to the law, and whatever the witness
14 or the lawyers say about the law is not the controlling
15 law in the case, that the law is what the court gives them
16 as the law, and that may help us.
17 She can -- you can ask her what she believed
18 the law to be and why did she believe it, and the jury is
19 going to have to decide the ultimate question, but Mr.
20 Murphy is correct on this.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
22 (The following proceedings were had in open
23 court.)
24 THE COURT: Ladies and gentlemen, it's a point
25 that we need to always keep in mind that if a witness or a
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1 lawyer attempts to tell you what the law is, you should
2 not accept the law from them. It's my job to give you the
3 accurate statement of the law, and you should not be in
4 any way confused about a statement that a lawyer or a
5 witness might make about the law.
6 THE WITNESS: Right.
7 THE COURT: I know in this case we're going
8 into an inquiry as to what Ms. Kuglin's beliefs were, and
9 you're going to have to make some decisions about whether
10 or not they are good faith and there will be various
11 criteria that you can use in making that determination.
12 So a defendant is allowed to state what she believes the
13 law was, obviously, and why she believed that, but her
14 statement about what the law is not to be considered by
15 you as in any way reflecting what the law, in fact, is. I
16 will give you those statements. We may need to remind you
17 of that a couple of times during the trial.
18 THE WITNESS: I apologize.
19 THE COURT: Actually, we're going to take a
20 short break and discuss what we talked about a little bit,
21 it might make us a little more efficient in the
22 presentation, and it's not inappropriate to make sure that
23 we know exactly how we're going to proceed. We're going
24 to take a 15-minute morning break. We didn't get a break
25 earlier. We actually started pretty early in here, and
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1 I'm going to see some lawyers who have been waiting to see
2 me on a matter that was just brought to my attention just
3 about 30 minutes ago, and they have been waiting that
4 whole period of time, so we will take our morning break a
5 little early. Remember, today is a day where we take a
6 lunch break from about 12:30 to 2:00, and I think we're
7 going to finish all the proof probably today, it's hard to
8 be sure, but I think we will. Don't discuss the case
9 among yourselves. Don't let anybody talk with you. We
10 will see you in 15 minutes.
11 (Jury out at 10:25 a.m.)
12 THE COURT: We will let y'all take your break
13 so everybody gets a restroom break.
14 (The court took up another matter.)
15 (Recess taken at 10:30 until 10:45 a.m.)
16 THE COURT: Bring the jury in.
17 (Jury in at 10:46 a.m.)
18 THE COURT: You can be seated. I think you can
19 all tell, I'm still trying to deal with insurance agents
20 during the break. It doesn't go any better for me than
21 you guys. I'm sorry it has taken a little bit more time,
22 but I'm trying to deal with some problems that I need to
23 get taken care of too. Sorry. I found out also if I
24 tried to deal with them after 5:00 o'clock or before 8:30,
25 it doesn't work either.
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1 Gentlemen, ladies, you may proceed.
2 MR. BECRAFT: May it please the court.
3 Q. Ms. Kuglin, let me give you a direction here, can you
4 pull out the documents that have a big 26 and big 27 and big
5 28 and big 29 on them? Do you have those in front of you?
6 A. I have them in front of me.
7 Q. The one that has the numbers -- well, how about also
8 25, do you have that in front of you?
9 A. I do now.
10 Q. Okay. Now, can you describe the one that has the
11 number 25 on it for me, please?
12 A. Yes, this is entitled the Internal Revenue Cumulative
13 Bulletin 1985-1 January through June.
14 Q. Do you have a recollection or judgment as to whether or
15 not that is a document that you read and relied upon at some
16 stage before, say, April the 15th of 1996?
17 A. Yes, it is.
18 Q. Okay. How was your attention directed to that
19 document?
20 A. My attention was directed to this document through the
21 Paper Reduction Act.
22 Q. Did you have an understanding -- give us a brief
23 description as to your understanding and belief about what the
24 Paperwork Reduction Act was?
25 A. My brief understanding about the Paperwork Reduction
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1 Act was that it was a legislative action by Congress in order
2 to get a handle on the number and amount of information
3 gathering forms that the agencies and the government were
4 promulgating.
5 Q. Okay. And did you have any understanding as to whether
6 or not there was some type of a requirement imposed on
7 government agencies in reference to this paperwork and OMB
8 numbers?
9 A. My understanding is that when -- before a regulation
10 could be enforced, before an information gathering document
11 could be authorized, both the regulation and the document had
12 to be submitted to the office of management and budget for
13 approval.
14 Q. And what was your understanding about how something was
15 approved by office management and budget?
16 A. My understanding about how these documents were
17 approved was that the office of management and budget,
18 otherwise known as the OMB for short would read the
19 regulation, determine that it was a valid regulation, they
20 would then review the information gathering form which was
21 attached to that regulation or form, and once they had
22 determined that both the regulation and the form were
23 appropriate that they would affix an OMB number to that form,
24 and that the OMB number on that form could only -- that form
25 could not be cross referenced to another regulation.
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1 Q. Now, do you have -- I think I noticed earlier in the
2 day that you had a '95 1040 instruction booklet there with
3 you?
4 A. Yes, I do.
5 Q. Can I ask this simple question? Did you make an
6 inquiry back when you were studying this Paperwork Reduction
7 Act as to what OMB control number appeared on the Form 1040?
8 A. Yes, I did.
9 Q. Okay. Do you have that in front of you?
10 A. Yes, I do.
11 Q. Do you have a Form 1040 in front of you?
12 A. Yes, I do.
13 Q. Did you make such an examination back whenever you were
14 doing this in '93, '94, '95 as to what OMB control number
15 appeared on the Form 1040?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 Q. What did you learn?
18 A. I learned that the OMB number on the Form 1040 is OMB
19 number 1545-0074.
20 Q. Now, let me direct your attention to the exhibit that
21 has a big 25 on it.
22 A. I have got that.
23 Q. Okay. Tell us what you did once you obtained that
24 document, Exhibit Number 24 or big 25?
25 A. I knew through the Paperwork Reduction Act that every
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1 agency was required to publish a cross reference or an index,
2 cross referencing the regulations with the approved
3 information gathering forms.
4 Q. Now, briefly identify 26 and 27 for us, please.
5 A. 26 and 27 is entitled 1993 instructions for form 2555.
6 Q. And 27 is?
7 A. 27 is form 2555.
8 Q. All right. Are these documents that you read and
9 relied upon, say, sometime prior to April 15th of '96?
10 A. Yes, they are.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, could I move for the
12 admission of those next three?
13 MR. MURPHY: No objection.
14 THE COURT: Yes. They're received as 37, 38
15 and 39.
16 THE COURT: Can I ask you a simple question?
17 Wait just one second. We keep a running list, ladies and
18 gentlemen, and if the deputy is not here, I maintain a
19 duplicate list, that's why we have to do that, and
20 sometimes folks don't know that I have to do that.
21 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I wrote down a note,
22 the one that says 25, put 37 on it.
23 THE COURT: Oh, okay. Let me see 25.
24 THE WITNESS: Did I not pass them to you?
25 THE COURT: No, ma'am, that's why I do that.
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1 Make sure I have got them all. I don't think so. I have
2 got 26 and I have got 27.
3 THE WITNESS: Oh, I'm sorry, 25 is the one I
4 have.
5 THE COURT: Yes, ma'am, that's what we're
6 looking for. All right. There we go.
7 MR. BECRAFT: 26 will have 38, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: I have got it now. Thanks so much.
9 And I will hand it back in just a second, let me make a
10 notation.
11 (Exhibit Number 37 was marked. Description:
12 IRS Bulletin.)
13 (Exhibit Number 38 was marked. Description:
14 1993 Form 2555 Instructions.)
15 (Exhibit Number 39 was marked. Description:
16 1993 Form 2555.)
17
18 THE COURT: You may proceed.
19 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: Thank you.
21 Q. Now, Ms. Kuglin, you have in front of you Exhibits 37,
22 38 and 39, correct?
23 THE COURT: I have still got 38 and 39.
24 Q. Can we proceed without that?
25 A. Yes, we can.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: If the court doesn't mind.
2 THE COURT: No, that's fine.
3 Q. These three documents you acquired before April the
4 15th of 1996, and you looked at them and studied them, what
5 was it that you concluded by your examination of them?
6 A. I looked at the cross reference, the cumulative
7 bulletin, and it lists the 26 CFR part of the section and then
8 the current OMB number for the form applicable to that, and
9 the first entry on that index is 1.1-1, which I was familiar
10 with, was the individual income tax, and I looked to the
11 right, and the form -- the number -- the OMB control number
12 for the form applicable to that is 1545-0067.
13 Q. Now, did you have some mental operation at the time as
14 to whether or not that was the form that related to the Form
15 1040?
16 A. Well, the Form 1040 has an OMB number of 1545-0074.
17 Q. And this one had a different number?
18 A. Yes, it does. The last four numbers are 0067.
19 Q. Okay. Did you make any effort to determine what form
20 it was that that related to?
21 A. Yes, I did. I went down to the IRS, and I asked them
22 whether or not or how I could find out what form that was. I
23 may have called the IRS, as far as how to find out the form
24 number, and then they told me that it was Form 2555, and I
25 went down to the IRS office and picked one up.
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1 Q. So you picked up both the form itself as well as the
2 instructions?
3 A. Right. It may have been the Post Office.
4 Q. Okay.
5 A. But I acquired the Form 2555.
6 Q. So tell us what that meant to you in reference to some
7 obligation on your part to Form 1040?
8 A. Well, since this was a document that was required by
9 the Paperwork Reduction Act for the agencies to give us an
10 idea of what forms are approved for specific regulations, that
11 listed here the only form that is listed for 1.1-1, individual
12 income tax, is the 0067 form, that that was the form that I
13 would be responsible for completing.
14 Q. Let me -- can you pull out from the exhibits the
15 document that has a big 28 on it?
16 A. I have that document.
17 Q. All right. Somewhere around the time frame in which
18 you were examining or studying the prior three exhibits, did
19 you obtain that document?
20 A. Yes, I did.
21 Q. Okay. Can you tell us what it is?
22 A. It's entitled TD, which is my understanding treasury
23 decision. Treasury decision under Internal Revenue laws of
24 the United States, volume 18, January to December, 1916.
25 Q. And is the document that you have in front of you
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1 Treasury Decision 2313?
2 A. Yes, it is.
3 Q. Let me kind of back up, and I want to ask a broad
4 question about what you have done to locate documents and
5 cases. Before you made these studies of the tax laws, had you
6 ever even gone to a law library before?
7 A. Not before I started my study, no, I had never walked
8 into one.
9 Q. Had you ever even really studied any law whatsoever
10 before '92?
11 A. No, I had not.
12 Q. Since then, between 1992, the time that you heard Andre
13 Maru (spelled phonetically) on TV and, say, like all the way
14 up through April 15th of 1996, you started studying the law,
15 what you perceived and understood to be the law --
16 THE COURT: We have an equipment failure, wait
17 just a second.
18 THE REPORTER: Could you repeat the last
19 question?
20 Q. Had you gone to a law library before '92?
21 A. No, I had not.
22 Q. Did you go to the law library after '92?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. How frequently?
25 A. I went each time I needed to find a copy of a case, and
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1 I would sometimes go just to read through and get familiar
2 with some of the older tax laws and such like that.
3 Q. All right. What law library did you visit?
4 A. The University of Memphis has a very good law library.
5 Q. There on Central?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 Q. Have you also attended meetings where you have gathered
8 some of these same type of documents that was available?
9 A. Yes, I did.
10 Q. And did you obtain documents from the Internal Revenue
11 Service itself?
12 A. I obtained like a 2555 from either the Internal Revenue
13 Service or the Post Office, somebody who had the forms
14 available.
15 Q. Now, by the time that you're looking at this Form 2555,
16 you had done what you just described, visited the library,
17 read a whole lot of material, obtained it from various
18 sources, including the government and the IRS and the law
19 library, correct?
20 A. That's correct.
21 Q. You had certain beliefs at that stage as to whether or
22 not you were required to file an income tax return, is that
23 correct?
24 A. That was correct. I was beginning to really question
25 whether or not the 1040 was the appropriate form.
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1 Q. All right. And once you made this comparison, you had
2 Exhibit Number 37 in your hand which listed some OMB control
3 numbers and you had Exhibit Number 26 and 27 in your hand,
4 what conclusions did you draw?
5 A. Well, I drawed -- I drew the conclusion, after seeing
6 Form 2555 which had the OMB control number 0067, which the
7 cross reference said was the appropriate information gathering
8 form for the individual income tax, 2555, and the heading of
9 that form is -- excuse me -- the title on that form is foreign
10 earned income.
11 Q. Now, looking at the one that has Exhibit Number 28 on
12 it.
13 A. You'll have to tell me which form, since they have
14 changed the --
15 Q. No, this one --
16 A. -- the numbers.
17 Q. This one should only have 28 on it.
18 A. I have got that. Treasury Decision 2313.
19 Q. Right. Now, were you obtaining documents like that
20 from a wide variety of sources?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Did you obtain that before -- sometime before April
23 15th of 1996?
24 A. Yes, I did.
25 Q. Okay. Is that something you read and relied upon?
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1 A. Yes, I did.
2 Q. And it related to your formation of your beliefs about
3 whether or not you were required to file an income tax return?
4 A. That's correct.
5 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I move for the
6 admission of the document that has the big 28 on it.
7 MR. MURPHY: No objection, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: Exhibit 40.
9 (Exhibit Number 40 was marked. Description:
10 1916 Treasury Decision.)
11 Q. Tell what it was you learned by reading that?
12 A. Well, this was in regard to the taxation of nonresident
13 aliens and foreign corporations.
14 Q. Do you need the document back?
15 A. That would probably be helpful.
16 Q. Look at that document and give us the refined essence
17 of what you learned from it?
18 A. Well, initially, it talks about the Brushaber case in
19 which it says that they hereby held that the income accruing
20 to nonresident aliens in the form of interest and from bonds
21 and dividends of the stock of domestic corporations is subject
22 to the income tax imposed by the Act of October 13, 1913. In
23 other words, the 16th Amendment.
24 Q. Is there anything in there that relates to the filing
25 of Form 1040?
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1 A. Let me read on. There is one mention of a form, and it
2 says that -- it's at the end of quite a long paragraph, so I
3 will just summarize the paragraph, it talks about nonresident
4 aliens and such, and it says that sum will be sufficient to
5 pay the normal tax of one percent imposed by law and shall be
6 made on an annual return of 1042. There is another form, form
7 1008 for deductions applicable to nonresident aliens and other
8 agents and representatives.
9 Q. Did you reach any conclusion as to whether or not what
10 they were talking about in that treasury decision had any
11 application to you?
12 A. I did not. There's another mention of a form on the
13 third page.
14 Q. Let me direct your attention --
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. There's a page that has 53 at the top.
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. Okay. And then using that page at the very bottom
19 going over to page 54.
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Is that a section that you read and relied upon?
22 A. Yes. The responsible heads, agents or representatives
23 of nonresident aliens who are in charge of the property owned
24 or business carried on within the United States shall make
25 full and complete return of the income tax form on the Form
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1 1040, and I missed that as I was reading it.
2 Q. Okay.
3 A. My other form was highlighted.
4 Q. Let me ask you this question: What was going through
5 your mind at this stage about whether or not you were required
6 to file a Form 1040?
7 A. Well, the documents that I had in front of me, which
8 were government documents and the cross reference, which is
9 required by every agency to be completed, indicated to me that
10 the only form that had been approved by the office of
11 management and budget for the individual income tax was the
12 form 1545-0067, entitled foreign earned income. It confirmed
13 for me what I had found in the tax code under 1461. The only
14 section under subtitle A, individual income tax, which makes
15 any person liable for the tax on subtitle A, which is
16 nonresident alien -- I'm sorry, the withholding agent for
17 nonresident aliens and foreign corporations, and I realized
18 that I did not fit in either one of those categories and,
19 therefore, that Form 2555 was not applicable to me.
20 Q. Now, let me -- you did some other studies, and let me
21 direct your attention to Exhibit Number 41, if I may. Big
22 thick one.
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Is that something that you read, studied and relied
25 upon?
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1 A. Absolutely. That was a long read.
2 Q. Okay. Just tell us what you learned by reading that
3 document.
4 A. This document is entitled Jurisdiction Over Federal
5 Areas Within the United States, a report of the
6 interdepartmental committee for the study of jurisdiction over
7 federal areas within the states. This was submitted to the
8 attorney general and transmitted to the president on June of
9 1957. President Eisenhower was interested in finding out what
10 the jurisdictional limitations of the federal government was,
11 and he asked the state's attorney general to compile a
12 document.
13 Q. Can you give us the refined essence of what it was that
14 you learned by reading that document?
15 A. Yes, I found out that federal jurisdiction extended
16 into the state territories in one of three ways they could
17 have acquired that. One of the ways was that land within the
18 states could be sold to the federal government and, therefore,
19 they would acquire jurisdiction over that, that land could be
20 ceded by the legislature under certain prescribed methods to
21 the federal government for its military grounds, other
22 facilities, and that federal jurisdiction applied to those
23 areas. And that the third way that the government could
24 receive federal jurisdiction within the states was when a
25 territory became a state, the government could retain
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1 jurisdiction over some of that land.
2 Q. Now, was this -- is this an official government
3 document to your understanding?
4 A. To my understanding, it is.
5 Q. Did what you read -- what you read in that work, did it
6 have an impact on your beliefs regarding your requirement to
7 file Form 1040?
8 A. Yes, it did because -- yes, it did.
9 Q. Okay. What was it?
10 A. Well, it said to me that because the federal government
11 had not acquired jurisdiction over where I lived, the area
12 that I lived or over the place that I worked, employment, that
13 this was not subject -- that I was not subject -- a person
14 subject to that jurisdiction in regards to the income tax, and
15 with all of the other -- substantiated the other court cases
16 and things that I had read. Also, I looked in the index to
17 find out what the jurisdiction of the federal government in
18 the realm of income tax was, and the only thing I could find
19 in the index was in reference to the state's ability to tax
20 people that were on federal land. There was no reference
21 whatsoever of the ability of the federal government to
22 directly tax property that I owned.
23 Q. Now --
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we approach?
25 THE COURT: You may.
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1 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
2 bench.)
3 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object. We're
4 getting back into the long narrative.
5 MR. BECRAFT: If I can tell the court, I'm
6 through offering exhibits. I am at the stage now where
7 we're getting ready to go into the long stretch, what she
8 did with the IRS, letters you wrote, those Don Roberts'
9 letter and we're wrapping up.
10 MR. MURPHY: I'm going to object to any mention
11 of the Roberts' letters at all.
12 THE COURT: There's no indication that there
13 were no opinions which she relied, so they're just
14 hearsay.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. Just to tell the court
16 where I'm headed, we have concluded all her beliefs.
17 THE COURT: Are we going to finish before
18 lunch?
19 MR. BECRAFT: I'm hoping maybe 15 minutes for
20 me and then it depends on Mr. Murphy.
21 THE COURT: All right.
22 (The following proceedings were had in open
23 court.)
24 MR. BECRAFT: Before I proceed, can I get an
25 exhibit?
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1 THE COURT: We have to let Mrs. Parker have a
2 chance to replug her equipment in.
3 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach the witness with a
4 couple of exhibits, Your Honor?
5 THE COURT: You may.
6 Q. Ms. Kuglin, there has been offered into evidence, I
7 don't know the exhibit number for it, but the '92 return, is
8 that correct?
9 A. That is correct.
10 Q. And that was prepared by an accountant, is that
11 correct?
12 A. That's correct.
13 Q. Mr. Napp?
14 A. Yes, sir.
15 Q. Did you file a '93 return?
16 A. No, I did not.
17 Q. And at the time that you -- where were you living then,
18 in '93?
19 A. I was living where I am now, 200 Wagner Place.
20 Q. Shelby County, Tennessee?
21 A. Yes, sir.
22 Q. Downtown Memphis?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And where did you work?
25 A. I worked at Federal Express.
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1 Q. Out at the airport?
2 A. That's correct.
3 Q. Also in Shelby County?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And I think we got evidence here that -- you were
6 either sent checks from or there was an account that you had
7 at the Credit Union where FedEx just deposited your paycheck
8 into the account?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Did that happen from '92, '93, forward?
11 A. I believe that that is the case. I'm not quite sure
12 when I set up automatic deductions. I was flying
13 international at that time, and it was convenient.
14 Q. Now, there's a '90 Form W-4 that's submitted into
15 evidence, and do you recall that it says, you know, you're
16 taking your normal exemptions?
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. Now, we don't have anything here for '93, '94, but were
19 you subjected to withholding in '93 and '94?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. And do you have a judgment or recollection as to
22 approximately what the rate of withholding was for you during
23 '93 and '94?
24 A. I'm not sure of the total amounts, I believe it was
25 specified yesterday it was about in the 30 or $40,000 ranges.
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1 Q. You don't have any contentions, whatever those
2 figures --
3 A. Yeah.
4 Q. -- they're correct?
5 A. That's correct.
6 Q. Did you file a '94 return?
7 A. No, I did not.
8 Q. Did you file a '95 return?
9 A. No, I did not.
10 Q. Were you subjected to withholding in '95?
11 A. Yes, I was.
12 Q. So what did you do ultimately regarding this problem of
13 withholding from your pay?
14 A. Ultimately, by December 30th of 1995, I come to the
15 conclusion that there was -- I had found significant enough
16 information to really question the fact that I was required to
17 file the Form 1040, the question that whether or not it was an
18 appropriate document and a required document.
19 Q. Okay. Now, let me direct your attention to -- can you
20 take a look at those exhibits in front of you and pull out 47,
21 the one that has 47 on it and the one that has 48?
22 A. Can you tell me the name of -- in this pile?
23 Q. I believe so.
24 A. The ones that you just gave me?
25 Q. No, not the ones that I just gave to you. In the stack
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1 that you had when you began your testimony this morning.
2 A. All right.
3 Q. I believe they're your letters bearing your signature
4 in October of '95 and November of '95. Do you have them?
5 A. I have these letters.
6 Q. Before we get into the substance of that, did you have
7 any conversations with anybody at the IRS sometime in 1995
8 that related to your investigations of the tax laws?
9 A. Yes, I did. I had an acquaintance --
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, can we approach?
11 THE COURT: You may.
12 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
13 bench.)
14 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't know that her
15 conversations with the IRS are relevant. It's hearsay.
16 MR. BECRAFT: I was merely pinpointing a time.
17 I'm not going to -- I'm going to expressly disinvite her
18 to relating what they said, Your Honor, and mention that
19 she had a meeting in July, that she reached certain
20 conclusions. They have an effect upon the other reasons
21 why she wrote those letters in October and November.
22 Although we do have a date of the meeting with the IRS,
23 not that I'm going to offer it, Your Honor. I just
24 mention that in passing.
25 THE COURT: Okay.
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1 (The following proceedings were had in open
2 court.)
3 Q. Just to make a point -- just to make a point, did you
4 have some type of actual sit down face-to-face meeting, not in
5 reference to yourself, but in reference to someone else, in
6 reference -- with some IRS agents in the summer of '95?
7 A. That's correct, yes, I did.
8 Q. Let's not get into the substance of that, okay. Now,
9 what was your -- what was going through your mind at that
10 stage after that meeting?
11 A. I had -- the thing that was going through my mind based
12 on the meeting was that contrary to the information on the
13 documents which said that I could go to the IRS and ask the
14 questions that I had in regard to my liability under the
15 individual income tax --
16 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we approach?
17 THE COURT: All right.
18 (The following proceedings were had in open
19 court.)
20 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to
21 relevance. What does this have to do with her belief?
22 MR. BECRAFT: Her intent and belief led her --
23 I'm getting ready to offer those two letters, October and
24 November of '95 that she wrote to the Internal Revenue
25 Service, Your Honor.
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1 THE COURT: Do you have any objection?
2 MR. MURPHY: I don't have any objection to the
3 letters, Judge.
4 MR. BECRAFT: I will speed it up, I'll move to
5 the --
6 THE COURT: Move to the letters. Good.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Thank you.
8 (The following proceedings were had in open
9 court.)
10 Q. Ms. Kuglin, let me direct your attention, let's just go
11 to the heart of the matter, to the letter that, I believe you
12 wrote in October of '95. It has a big 47 on it.
13 A. I have got that letter.
14 Q. Okay. Now, does it have a date on it?
15 A. Yes, it does. It is October the 18th, 1995.
16 Q. All right. And take a look at the next one.
17 A. That one is dated November 25th of 1995.
18 Q. All right. Are those letters that you composed?
19 A. Yes, they are.
20 Q. All right. Do they relate to your tax liens or tax
21 positions?
22 A. They relate to the questions that I wanted to ask, yes.
23 Q. Okay. And to whom are they addressed?
24 A. They were addressed -- the October the 18th letter was
25 addressed to the Internal Revenue Service, Memphis, Tennessee.
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1 Q. What with the other one?
2 A. The other one was addressed to the Internal Revenue
3 Service in Memphis, attention of James Gaither, chief
4 collection branch.
5 Q. All right. Did you sign those letters and mail them to
6 the IRS?
7 A. Yes, I did, and I have certified copies of the receipt.
8 Q. So you sent them certified to the IRS?
9 A. Yes, I did.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I move for the
11 admission of the documents that have 47 and 48 on it.
12 MR. MURPHY: Judge, there's some attachments
13 on, I believe it's 48 that I'm taking the position that
14 aren't admissible.
15 THE COURT: Let me take a look at them and we
16 will go over them at side bar.
17 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
18 bench.)
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I believe it's 48, there's
20 an attachment, I don't know if it is from the IRS, it says
21 someone is not liable to file a tax return. The names are
22 blacked out. Judge, I don't think that ought to come in.
23 There's two of them.
24 THE COURT: Let's make sure we're --
25 MR. BECRAFT: Of course -- yeah, those are it.
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1 THE COURT: These are letters which are from --
2 of an individual in Delano, California, that the name is
3 blacked out, the taxpayer's name is blacked out, and the
4 taxpayer in Ogden, Utah, and the name is also blacked out
5 on that, so these are hearsay documents, and they're
6 not --
7 MR. BECRAFT: I would redact them, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: Subject to any --
9 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have a problem with
10 the exhibit.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Can I tear them?
12 THE COURT: Let's see if we can't find a staple
13 remover.
14 MR. BECRAFT: I will pull those apart without
15 those pages.
16 THE COURT: Sure.
17 MR. BECRAFT: And I see a stapler right there.
18 I will pull out those two appending documents, and now we
19 can staple it back.
20 THE COURT: Okay. All right, gentlemen.
21 (The following proceedings were had in open
22 court.)
23 THE COURT: We will mark Exhibit 41 and Exhibit
24 42. 41 is an October 18, 1995 letter to the Internal
25 Revenue Service from Ms. Kuglin, and Exhibit 42 is a
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1 November 25th, 1995 letter with certain attachments, and
2 it's addressed to Internal Revenue Service to Mr. Gaither
3 from Ms. Kuglin.
4 (Exhibit Number 41 was marked. Description:
5 October 18, 1995 Letter.)
6 (Exhibit Number 42 was marked. Description:
7 November 25, 1995 Letter.)
8 Q. Ms. Kuglin, what was going through your mind at that
9 time, what did you believe about the necessity on your part to
10 file Forms 1040?
11 A. At that time, based on my research, based on the
12 government documents that I relied upon, the 1040 was not the
13 form that I had -- excuse me, let me start this again. I come
14 to the conclusion or the belief that there was no regulation
15 in the Internal Revenue Code that made me liable for the
16 individual income tax and that the 1040 form, there was no law
17 that required me to file that form for that particular tax.
18 Q. Looking at Exhibit Number 41, did you pose certain
19 questions in the letter?
20 A. This is the new 41 we're talking about?
21 Q. Yes. It will have a yellow sticker on it that says 41
22 now.
23 A. And would you repeat your question?
24 Q. Did you pose by means of that letter certain questions?
25 A. Yes, I did.
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1 Q. What were the questions that you posed to the Internal
2 Revenue Service?
3 A. The initial question was in regard to the OMB cross
4 reference number and the fact that the 1040 form had the
5 1545-0074 number on it, and the cumulative bulletin index
6 showed that the only form that had been approved for the
7 individual income tax was the 2555 form, foreign earned
8 income. I listed a court case that said for federal tax
9 purposes, federal regulations govern, and I discussed my
10 understanding of the requirement of the statutes and
11 implementing regulations in regard to determining liability
12 for any individual in regard to the taxes.
13 Q. Now, sometime later -- let me ask you this question:
14 Were the questions that you posed in that letter, were they
15 answered by the IRS?
16 A. No, they were not. And I, in the last paragraph of
17 that letter, I did make a note that if I did not receive
18 answers to the above requested information within ten days of
19 certified receipt date, it will indicate to me that even in
20 absence of receipt of a Form 2358C, which is a form that says
21 I'm not required to file, that you, the IRS, are in agreement
22 with my assessment that there is not a requirement for me to
23 return to you a completed Form 1040.
24 MR. BECRAFT: May I approach the witness, Your
25 Honor?
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1 THE COURT: Yes, you may.
2 Q. Can you hand me the next exhibit, November?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. Now, I have on the Elmo here your letter dated November
5 the 25th of 1995.
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Sent to the Internal Revenue Service. Was there
8 something that prompted this?
9 A. I did not get a response for my first letter, and I had
10 received a CP 515, 516, 517 and 518 letters which were
11 requests for a 1040 form to be filed.
12 Q. Now, let me direct your attention to the second page of
13 this letter. You sent it certified, right?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. And you got the certified return receipt here?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Now, the second page of this letter that I have got on
18 the screen, it's kind of light, but is this the series of
19 questions that you were posing at that time to this addressee
20 of this letter, Mr. Gaither?
21 A. Yes, they are.
22 Q. Okay. Describe those questions for us.
23 A. Well, my monitor is a little blurry.
24 THE COURT: You can focus it and make it a
25 little larger.
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1 A. That's fine. The first question that I posed --
2 actually, I said, therefore, if you feel I have been
3 misinformed regarding the above information, please provide me
4 with the following or give me an appointment with someone who
5 can. And this was based on Internal Revenue Code 6110. The
6 first question that I asked them to address was the statute
7 asking them for the statutes and implementing regulations
8 which required that I file a tax return. Two, I wanted the
9 statutes and implementing regulations which specifically
10 designate the exact tax for which I am liable for on the 1040
11 form. Third question, the statutes and implementing
12 regulations which authorizes the IRS to enforce number one,
13 the statutes and implementing regulations which authorizes the
14 IRS to compute taxes, penalty and interest based on income
15 reported to you by any employer -- I'm sorry, my employer,
16 banks, et cetera, as shown on page five of your letter. And
17 five, in lieu of one through four above, a letter 2358C
18 determination letter stating to me that I am no longer
19 required to file a tax return. I am receiving -- let's see, I
20 am reserving all of my rights in this matter. Respectfully
21 awaiting your reply, Vernice Braendli Kuglin.
22 Q. Did you receive any reply to this letter?
23 A. No, sir, I did not. Not to the questions on this
24 letter.
25 Q. What was so important -- what was going through your
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1 mind about the importance of being told about what statute
2 makes you liable for the federal income tax?
3 A. Well, under the Privacy Act, the 1040 form said, it
4 said that those -- the 6001, 6011 were the regulations under
5 which I was required to file the 1040 form. And in my
6 research, I had determined that that form was not applicable
7 to the individual income tax based on the cumulative bulletin
8 index and that the form 2555 entitled foreign and earned
9 income did not apply to me, and I was wanting the IRS to clear
10 up this confusion for me.
11 Q. And nobody from the IRS ever scheduled an appointment
12 with you?
13 A. No, they did not.
14 Q. Nobody called you and said, Ms. Kuglin, here is the
15 answer to your questions?
16 A. No, they did not.
17 Q. Okay. Let's say by December 30 -- well, Christmas of
18 '95, what did you think -- what went through your mind, here
19 you have sent two letters to the IRS asking them questions and
20 nothing has happened?
21 A. Well, by December of 1995, as a result of the fact that
22 I had asked the question what regulation -- excuse me, what
23 implementing regulation made me liable for the individual
24 income tax and what law required me to file Form 1040, I had
25 asked this question through letters, I had asked it personally
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1 to IRS agents, and I got no response, so it was indicative to
2 me or I came to the conclusion that since they had not
3 responded to me in regards to that question, that my research
4 and my data was accurate, and I made the decision at that
5 point in time to stop my withholding.
6 Q. Did you have a willingness, if answers had been
7 obtained by you to your questions, did you have a willingness
8 to go ahead and file returns and pay the taxes?
9 A. Absolutely. And even later on when I hired an
10 attorney, which I was told to do by the IRS agents, to write
11 my letters for me, I thought that perhaps if they were
12 ignoring my own letters that they would not ignore the letters
13 of an attorney, that I asked them to ask the same questions.
14 Q. Okay. Now, you filed December 31st, 1995 for the first
15 time an exempt W-4 form, correct?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 Q. Do you have that in front of you?
18 A. Yes, I do.
19 Q. Okay. Can you explain that to us, what you did?
20 A. Yes, this is a Form W-4, 1990 -- it is actually dated
21 1995. By December the 30th, 1995, I had made a decision that
22 I would stop my withholding until such time that I got an
23 answer to my two questions from the IRS. I went into my
24 employer, FedEx, anticipating that I might have a little
25 difficulty persuading them to accept my W-4 form, but when I
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1 got there, I realized -- I was actually told how to file this
2 form, and I filed an exempt W-4 form.
3 Q. I think the jury has, without getting into the
4 substance of that -- let me withdraw that and ask you to
5 summarize the position that you take in reference to that
6 exempt W-4 form dated December the 30th, 1995?
7 A. On the W-4 form, it says in number seven, I claim
8 exemption from withholding for 199 -- this said 1995, and I
9 certify that I meet both the following conditions for
10 exemption: One, last year I had a right to a refund of all
11 federal income tax withheld, because I had no tax liability;
12 and, two, this year, I expect a refund of all federal income
13 tax withheld, because I expect to have no tax liability. In
14 view of the fact that I had determined, based on all the
15 documentation that I received, that I was not a person who had
16 been not -- that had not been made liable in Section 6001 and
17 6011, that for the individual income tax that I qualified for
18 this as a person who had no liability.
19 Q. Let me ask you -- I don't think we need to pull them
20 out and look at them, but do you recall, we have got in
21 evidence here the other subsequent Forms W-4 that you
22 submitted to FedEx.
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Okay. Is it your recollection that they say exempt on
25 them as well?
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1 A. That is correct.
2 Q. Let me ask you some questions about that group. You
3 claimed exempt on all those later forms for a specific reason?
4 A. Yes, I did.
5 Q. Can you tell the jury what that specific reason was?
6 A. Okay. Can you go over the years that we're talking
7 about?
8 Q. Okay. You know, it's my recollection there's '97, '98,
9 '99 forms exempt W-4 --
10 A. Oh, yes, yes.
11 MR. MURPHY: I'm going to object. I think a
12 better way to do it would be to show her the exhibits.
13 THE WITNESS: I'm familiar with what he's
14 talking about.
15 THE COURT: Mr. Murphy is right, though, mainly
16 because you can't ask the lawyer a fact question.
17 THE WITNESS: Okay.
18 THE COURT: That is why they usually pass it
19 up. Why don't you pass it up, make sure that we have got
20 the document?
21 MR. BECRAFT: Judge, I don't know if I have the
22 numbers real handy.
23 Q. Oh, wait, I think I gave them to you. Do you see one
24 later?
25 A. Oh, yes, I do. Well, no, I have got a copy.
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1 Q. Let me withdraw these questions. Are you cognizant of
2 the fact that you claimed exempt on those forms?
3 A. Yes, I am.
4 Q. Let me ask the questions that don't relate to having
5 the documents in front of you. Can you tell the jury why you
6 did so?
7 A. I claimed that exemption because I had been asking
8 questions, via letters and visits to the IRS, for the
9 implementing regulation that made me liable for the individual
10 income tax and the law that required me to file a 1040 form.
11 I had not gotten responses to those letters, and based on all
12 of my research and study, understanding from the court cases,
13 especially Jack Cole versus McFarland that my right to earn a
14 living was a right of common occupation and, therefore, could
15 not be taxed under the individual income tax.
16 Q. Let me ask a couple of final questions, if I may, Ms.
17 Kuglin. You agree that for '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001,
18 you didn't send in 1040 forms to the IRS, right?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. On April 15th, after all those years, all the way up
21 through April 15th of 2002, did you have a belief that you
22 were required by law to file those forms? Did you have a
23 belief that you were required to file the forms?
24 A. What were the dates that you just gave me?
25 Q. For all the years covered in the indictment, '96
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1 through 2001, I think April 15th, after every year.
2 A. No, I was not under the belief that I was required to
3 file the Form 1040 form.
4 Q. Okay. In reference to filing, give us what your belief
5 was, very specifically.
6 A. My belief was that I was not a person that the
7 regulations had made liable for the individual income tax and
8 that there was no law requiring me to file the 1040 form.
9 Q. Now, in reference to all those exempt W-4 forms that
10 you submitted, starting also with the one dated December of
11 '95 and the subsequent ones, did you believe that any
12 statement that you had made on those was false?
13 A. I did not believe that. In fact, I attached to my --
14 first the 1995 one some documentation which substantiated my
15 belief.
16 Q. Did you believe that the statements that you submitted
17 those forms W-4 were --
18 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
19 leading.
20 THE COURT: Objection sustained.
21 Q. Okay. What, if any, belief did you have regarding the
22 truthfulness of your exempt W-4 forms?
23 A. I believed that it was true, I believed that I did not
24 have taxable income for the year -- the prior years. I
25 believed that I did not have taxable income for the years that
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1 I filed exempt.
2 Q. Ms. Kuglin, from 1993 all the way up through April of
3 2002, did you engage in tax evasion?
4 A. I did not. I always offered to pay my taxes that I was
5 liable for.
6 MR. BECRAFT: One moment, Your Honor, if I may.
7 THE COURT: All right.
8 MR. BECRAFT: Nothing further, Your Honor.
9 THE COURT: Cross examination?
10 MR. MURPHY: If I can have a minute to get my
11 stuff ready.
12 MR. BECRAFT: Well, I need a minute to pull
13 away my stuff.
14 THE COURT: That should work out fine.
15 THE WITNESS: Do you want these exhibits now?
16 MR. MURPHY: No, that's fine.
17 Thank you, Your Honor.
18 CROSS EXAMINATION
19 BY MR. MURPHY:
20 Q. Ms. Kuglin, I want to start with some of these cases
21 that you based your conclusions on. Now, you would go over to
22 the Memphis State -- when I was there, it was Memphis State --
23 it was the University of Memphis law library and study?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. And it's true that law library has all sorts of
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1 materials dating back, you know, a 150 years to the present,
2 correct?
3 A. That's correct.
4 Q. Okay. Now, this Pollock case that you were talking
5 about, that case was decided in 1880, wasn't it?
6 A. That's correct.
7 Q. And that case overruled the income tax prior to the
8 16th Amendment, correct?
9 A. What they said is that Congress had the right to levy a
10 direct tax on property.
11 Q. Okay. But that -- that case was prior to the 16th
12 Amendment, correct?
13 A. That was prior to the 16th Amendment, that's correct.
14 Q. The 16th Amendment is what gave us the modern income
15 tax, correct?
16 A. The 16th Amendment, yes, gave the Congress the power to
17 lay and collect income taxes from whatever source derived.
18 Q. Right, from all income, right, from whatever source
19 derived?
20 A. That's correct, that's what the amendment says, yes.
21 Q. Now, the Brushaber is an 1896 opinion?
22 A. No, Brushaber is 1913, I believe.
23 Q. 1913?
24 A. After the 16th Amendment was passed.
25 Q. Okay. You're correct, it's a 1913 case.
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1 A. Right.
2 Q. Now, the -- this Jack Cole case.
3 A. Yes, sir.
4 Q. Now, that's not a case that dealt with the federal
5 income tax, was it?
6 A. No, that was a case that dealt with state income taxes.
7 Q. Right. And they don't mention the federal income tax
8 in Jack Cole, do they?
9 A. No, they do not.
10 Q. Okay. And the Oregon case, what year was that?
11 A. I believe that was a 1925, 1930 case. I would have to
12 look at it.
13 Q. That case, they don't deal with the federal income tax
14 either, do they?
15 A. No, they deal with -- more defining the difference
16 between excises and occupations and individuals and
17 corporations.
18 Q. Okay. So the answer would be no, they don't deal with
19 the federal income tax in that case?
20 A. No, they do not.
21 Q. Now, the Flora case was decided in 1960, right?
22 A. I don't have the case in front of me, but I think
23 that's about right.
24 Q. I have got a copy of it.
25 MR. MURPHY: May I approach the witness, Your
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1 Honor?
2 THE COURT: You may.
3 Q. Is that a copy of the Flora case?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. What year was that decided?
6 A. Actually, that was 1960. I was thinking it was
7 earlier.
8 Q. Is that one of the cases you relied upon?
9 A. Yes, that was one of the cases that I relied on to get
10 some of the information, yes.
11 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, could we have this
12 marked as an exhibit, please?
13 THE COURT: Yes, Exhibit 43.
14 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: I got it.
15 (Exhibit Number 43 was marked. Description:
16 Flora Case.)
17 Q. Now, the Flora case was a case that involved the method
18 that you used to settle a dispute of the income tax, correct?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. Okay. Whether you could go to district court or tax
21 court?
22 A. That was correct.
23 Q. Okay. And, in fact, the Flora case is -- starts at
24 page 630 and ends at page 658, and there's only one line in
25 that case where they talk about the voluntariness of the
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1 income tax, correct?
2 A. I would say that is correct. I would have to read
3 through it again.
4 Q. Well --
5 A. But I'll accept that.
6 Q. I'll show you where it talks about that.
7 Okay. But as far as you know, there's no other
8 reference to it?
9 A. I will accept your -- that that is the case.
10 Q. Well, you studied the case.
11 A. I studied the case and I got information out of it, but
12 I don't know every line in every case. If you're saying
13 that's the only reference to it, then --
14 Q. You don't dispute that?
15 A. I will not dispute that.
16 Q. Okay. And it's one sentence, right?
17 A. I will accept that.
18 Q. Well, why don't we have you read it?
19 A. If you want me to know everything that is in every
20 case, I cannot do that today. I gleaned information -- I was
21 looking for supporting documentation for the answers of
22 questions I had.
23 Q. Okay. I have got a page from Exhibit 43 up there, and
24 it says our system of taxation is based upon voluntary
25 assessment and payment, not upon distraint. A full payment
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1 requirement will promote the smooth function of this system; a
2 part payment rule would work at cross-purposes with it.
3 A. Right. And I have no disagreement with that sentence.
4 Q. Okay.
5 THE COURT: Would you pull the page down so we
6 can see the top of the page where the case name is?
7 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
8 THE COURT: Thank you.
9 Q. Now, the Arkansas case that you cited is part of the
10 basis for your study. That case didn't deal with the federal
11 income tax, did it?
12 A. No, it did not. It dealt with an excise tax or a tax
13 that was being laid by the legislature of Arkansas.
14 Q. And, in fact, those courts that dealt with those state
15 cases, they weren't federal courts, were they?
16 A. No, they were not. They were the state Supreme Courts.
17 Q. Okay. Ms. Kuglin, you don't have the W-4s up there, do
18 you?
19 A. I have my -- the 1995 W-4.
20 Q. Okay. Can I have the 1995 W-4 form?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. You filed income tax returns and paid your income taxes
23 from sometime in the mid '60s up until 1992, is that correct?
24 A. That's correct.
25 Q. And I'm going to show you a document, can you tell us
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1 what that document is?
2 A. This says it is an individual income tax return Form
3 1040 for 1992 and has my name on it.
4 Q. Okay. Is that a copy of your 1992 tax return?
5 A. Yes.
6 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we would ask this be
7 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
8 THE COURT: 44.
9 (Exhibit Number 44 was marked. Description:
10 1992 Tax Return.)
11 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, that was
12 government's -- that was Exhibit Number 9 previously, I
13 thought.
14 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't think it is. I
15 don't think we admitted --
16 THE COURT: Number 9 was the certificate of
17 assessments, and this is the 1992 tax return. It appears
18 to be separate.
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I cannot find the W-4s, but
20 I have got some copies and I'm going to use some copies.
21 THE COURT: All right. You just need to --
22 sure. The W-4s should be Exhibit 15.
23 Q. Do you have those up there, ma'am?
24 MR. BECRAFT: If I may, Your Honor, I did hand
25 those to the witness during my examination. I thought 13,
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1 14 and 15 may be up there on the witness stand.
2 THE WITNESS: Well, let me look again.
3 THE COURT: Sure, Exhibit 15, and then --
4 THE WITNESS: What were they originally,
5 Larry -- Mr. Becraft?
6 MR. BECRAFT: Starts around 13. 15, I believe,
7 is a collective exhibit, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: Okay. You may proceed. You can
9 use your copy.
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, that's fine.
11 Q. Ms. Kuglin, we're going to use some copies.
12 A. All right.
13 Q. Can you take a look at Exhibit 44?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. In 1992, you had one dependent?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. Okay. And would you take a look at this document, it
18 appears to be a 1988 Form W-4. Do you recognize that
19 document?
20 A. Yes, it has my signature on it.
21 Q. Okay. And is that a W-4 you submitted out at FedEx?
22 A. Yes, it is.
23 Q. Okay. And what date did you submit it?
24 A. I submitted this on June the 7th of 1989.
25 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
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1 marked as an exhibit. Well, I don't think we need to do
2 that.
3 Q. Can you tell us -- let's have it marked as an exhibit.
4 THE COURT: 45.
5 MR. MURPHY: I had her testify about it.
6 THE COURT: That's no problem.
7 (Exhibit Number 45 was marked. Description:
8 1988 Form 1040.)
9 Q. How many exemptions do you claim on that W-4?
10 A. It says six exemptions on there.
11 MR. MURPHY: Now, if we can have this marked as
12 the next numbered exhibit.
13 THE COURT: Are we -- is this 45, or is this
14 46, the new one?
15 MR. BECRAFT: I wrote down 45.
16 THE COURT: I tell you what, let me take a look
17 at it and ask you -- this is Exhibit -- let's talk at side
18 bar.
19 MR. MURPHY: I think it is going to be 46.
20 THE COURT: I want to see 45, and, Mrs. Saba,
21 we need to get them all -- we just need to get them all
22 sequentially sorted. It looks like we're having a little
23 problem here.
24 THE WITNESS: I have 37 and 40 here also.
25 THE COURT: Let's pick them all up.
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1 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
2 bench.)
3 THE COURT: Is there a 45?
4 MR. BECRAFT: That's the -- no, no, 44 is
5 the --
6 THE COURT: 44 is the --
7 MR. MURPHY: There is not a 45.
8 THE COURT: 44 is the '92 tax return.
9 MR. MURPHY: It is right there.
10 THE COURT: 45, I think, is this.
11 MR. BECRAFT: Yeah, that's it, that's correct.
12 THE COURT: It is the 1988 W-4 form. This is
13 45. Okay. We're okay.
14 MR. BECRAFT: No objections to their admission.
15 (The following proceedings were had in open
16 court.)
17 THE COURT: Got them in order now?
18 MR. MURPHY: I think so, Judge.
19 THE COURT: I think so.
20 BY MR. MURPHY:
21 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you another document, what
22 document is that?
23 A. This is -- this is a 1990 Form W-4.
24 Q. Okay. And was that a W-4 you submitted to FedEx?
25 A. Yes, it is.
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1 Q. What date did you submit it?
2 A. I submitted this on 11-26 of 1990.
3 Q. And how many exemptions did you claim?
4 A. It shows 10 exemptions.
5 Q. Thank you. Now, at the time, was your son living with
6 you?
7 A. 1990, my son --
8 MR. MURPHY: Judge, we move this into evidence.
9 A. No.
10 MR. BECRAFT: Is that 46?
11 THE COURT: That's 46. And it's the W-4 for
12 1990.
13 (Exhibit Number 46 was marked. Description:
14 1990 W-4 Form.)
15 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass you another document. Can you
16 tell us what that document is?
17 A. Yes, that's a 1995 W-4 form.
18 Q. And is that your W-4 form?
19 A. Yes, it is.
20 Q. And what is the date on that form?
21 A. That's December 30th, 1995.
22 Q. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
23 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, could we have this
24 marked as the next numbered exhibit?
25 MR. BECRAFT: It has been admitted into
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1 evidence, Your Honor.
2 MR. MURPHY: We can't find it, Judge, and --
3 THE COURT: Mrs. Saba, we need Exhibits 13, 14
4 and 15.
5 MR. BECRAFT: I have it as Exhibit 17, Your
6 Honor.
7 THE COURT: It won't do any harm for us to mark
8 it as 47.
9 THE CLERK: 13, 14 and 15?
10 THE COURT: The collective W-4 forms are
11 Exhibit 15.
12 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I've got 15.
13 THE COURT: Okay. We're all right. We will
14 not mark the other document as 47.
15 MR. MURPHY: We will withdraw that, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: Okay.
17 Q. Okay. Now, this is your 1995 -- or 1996 W-4?
18 A. That's what it says. It has got 1996 crossed out and
19 1997 on there. One of the situations that would happen at
20 FedEx is they didn't always have the current year forms.
21 Q. Is that a form that you claimed exempt on?
22 A. It is a form that I claimed exempt signed on January
23 the 1st of 1997.
24 Q. Can you take a look at this form and tell me what that
25 form is? Now, I don't mean to interrupt you, but the top part
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1 of this form is not there.
2 A. Yes, this is a W-4.
3 Q. Does that appear to be a --
4 A. For 1996, yes.
5 Q. -- government document?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Is it similar to the document that you executed?
8 A. Yes, it is.
9 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we have this blank
10 form marked as an exhibit.
11 THE COURT: Yes, that will be 47.
12 (Exhibit Number 47 was marked. Description:
13 Blank Form 1040.)
14 Q. Ma'am, what I'm going to put up here this is this Form
15 1040.
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. You see the part where it says exemption from
18 withholding?
19 A. Yes, I do.
20 Q. Could you read that for us?
21 A. The -- from where it says withholding or the yellow
22 highlighted area?
23 Q. Why don't you read exemption from withholding?
24 A. It says exemption from withholding, read line seven of
25 the certificate below to see if you can claim exempt status.
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1 If exempt, only complete lines one, two, three, four and seven
2 and sign the form to validate it. No federal income tax will
3 be withheld from your pay. Your exemption expires February
4 18th, 1997. Note: You cannot claim exemption from
5 withholding if, one, your income exceeds $650 and it includes
6 unearned income, for example, interest and dividends; and two,
7 another person can claim you as a dependent on their return.
8 Q. Okay. In 1996, you earned interest, didn't you?
9 A. I did earn interest, yes.
10 Q. Okay. Can I get that exhibit back from you?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Look for something else. Now, is that your 1998 W-4?
13 A. That is signed by me on January 1st of 1998.
14 Q. Okay. And again, this is coming from Collective
15 Exhibit 15. Can you read the language from the 1998 W-4 that
16 begins up at the top with note?
17 A. It says: Note: You cannot claim exemption from
18 withholding, if, one, your income exceeds $650 and includes
19 unearned income, for example, interest and dividends; and,
20 two, another person can claim you as a dependent on their tax
21 return.
22 Q. And this information was on the form when you signed
23 it, correct?
24 A. Yes, it was.
25 Q. And you earned interest income in 1998, didn't you?
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1 A. I believe that the testimony yesterday was to that
2 effect.
3 Q. Okay. And it's true, isn't it, the 1995 W-4 has the
4 same sort of language up there at the top, doesn't it?
5 A. Yes, it does. I would presume it does.
6 Q. And you earned interest in 1995 too, didn't you?
7 A. I would have to defer to the testimony yesterday.
8 Q. Okay. Now, regarding your 1993 tax situation, the IRS
9 levied against the taxes that had been withheld from your
10 paycheck, didn't they?
11 A. They did not levy against the taxes that were withheld,
12 they did an additional levy.
13 Q. Okay. Well, but they got all that money, right?
14 A. Yes, I -- in 1993, withholding was taken out of my
15 check.
16 Q. And the IRS got al that money, right?
17 A. I'm presuming, yes, that FedEx sent it to the IRS.
18 Q. And you didn't get a refund of a dime of your money in
19 '93, did you?
20 A. No, I did not.
21 Q. Now, in 1994, the IRS got the withholding again, didn't
22 they?
23 A. Yes, they did.
24 Q. Okay. And did you get a refund of any of that
25 withholding?
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1 A. No, I did not file a 1040 form for a refund.
2 Q. So you didn't get a refund in '93, correct?
3 A. I did not file for a refund in '93, and I did not file
4 for a refund in '94.
5 Q. Let's back up a second and answer my question, you did
6 not get a refund of your taxes in 1993?
7 A. No, I did not.
8 Q. You did not get a refund of your taxes in 1994, did
9 you?
10 A. No, I did not.
11 Q. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Now, the IRS had a number of
12 contacts with you regarding your tax situation, correct?
13 A. That's correct.
14 Q. For example, on October the 31st of 1995, did you
15 receive this letter?
16 A. That letter looks familiar, yes.
17 Q. So do you believe you received it?
18 A. Yes, I do.
19 MR. MURPHY: Mark this as the next numbered
20 exhibit, Your Honor.
21 MR. BECRAFT: May I look at it, Your Honor? No
22 objections, Your Honor. I believe that's 48.
23 THE COURT: Exhibit 48.
24 (Exhibit Number 48 was marked. Description:
25 October 31, 1995 Letter.)
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1 MR. BECRAFT: One moment, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: All right.
3 Q. Now, that letter that you just said you received, that
4 was a letter from the IRS about your taxes, correct?
5 A. Yes, it was.
6 Q. Now, did you receive that letter from the IRS?
7 A. Yes, I did.
8 Q. Okay. And is that also a letter -- and you received
9 that June of 1997?
10 A. That was June 16th of 1997.
11 Q. And that's a letter about your taxes, isn't it?
12 A. Yes, it is.
13 Q. Okay. And about asking -- putting you on notice that
14 they have no record of your 1040 and indicating that they will
15 assess tax penalties against you, correct?
16 A. That's correct.
17 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, we ask this be marked
18 as the next numbered exhibit.
19 MR. BECRAFT: No objections, Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: 49.
21 (Exhibit Number 49 was marked. Description:
22 June 16, 1997 Letter.)
23 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you another document that's
24 dated July the 16th of '97, what is that?
25 A. This is another letter from the IRS, the Department of
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1 Treasury, dated July 16th, 1997. It says notice of
2 deficiency.
3 Q. And you received that letter?
4 A. Yes, I did.
5 Q. And this is giving you notice of a deficiency and the
6 payment of your taxes, correct?
7 A. That's correct.
8 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
9 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
10 THE COURT: 50.
11 MR. BECRAFT: No objections, Your Honor.
12 (Exhibit Number 50 was marked. Description:
13 June 16, 1997 Letter.)
14 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you a document dated June
15 22nd of 1999. And did you receive that letter?
16 A. This letter looks familiar, June 22nd, yes.
17 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if we could have this
18 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
19 THE COURT: 51.
20 (Exhibit Number 51 was marked. Description:
21 June 22, 1999 Letter.)
22 Q. Now, this letter that has been marked 51, this gives
23 you notice that you have got an appointment to talk to the
24 IRS, correct?
25 A. Yes, it does.
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1 Q. And you didn't ever go talk to them about this?
2 A. I did not go talk to them. I had an attorney respond
3 to this letter.
4 Q. Okay. But did you have an opportunity to sit down and
5 talk to the IRS about your tax situation?
6 A. Yes, I did.
7 Q. Okay. And you're not disputing that?
8 A. I'm not disputing that.
9 Q. Ma'am, I pass a document to you dated June 28th, 1999,
10 can you tell us what that is?
11 A. This is a letter that says final notice, notice of
12 intent to levy, notice of your right to a hearing.
13 Q. And that is addressed to you?
14 A. That is addressed to me.
15 Q. And this particular letter gives you notice that the
16 IRS is going to put a levy against you?
17 A. That's correct.
18 Q. Okay. And put a levy against you for your taxes that
19 you owe, correct?
20 A. That's correct. The taxes that they say I owe, yes.
21 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, could we have this
22 marked as the next numbered exhibit?
23 MR. BECRAFT: No objections.
24 THE COURT: 52.
25 (Exhibit Number 52 was marked. Description:
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1 June 28, 1999 Letter.)
2 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you another letter dated
3 July the 6th, 1999 from the IRS. Did you receive that letter?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Okay. And that letter is also a letter where there's
6 an attempt to set up an appointment to sit down and talk with
7 you about your taxes?
8 A. That's correct.
9 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, if we could have this
10 marked as the next numbered exhibit.
11 MR. BECRAFT: No objections, Your Honor.
12 THE COURT: Exhibit 53.
13 (Exhibit Number 53 was marked. Description:
14 July 6, 1999 Letter.)
15 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to pass to you another document. Did
16 you receive this document?
17 A. I'm not saying I didn't. This document doesn't seem as
18 familiar. I do know a copy was sent to Ray Pope who had my
19 power of attorney at that time in Florida.
20 Q. Okay. How about this reminder document?
21 A. This reminder document is familiar.
22 Q. Okay. And do you believe you received that reminder
23 document?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. And what this reminds you -- document reminds you of is
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1 that you, in fact, still owes taxes to the Internal Revenue
2 Service?
3 A. Yes, it tells me that the Internal Revenue Service
4 believes that I still owe them some taxes.
5 MR. MURPHY: If we could mark this as the next
6 numbered exhibit, Your Honor.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Let me take a look at it, Your
8 Honor.
9 No objections, Your Honor.
10 THE COURT: 54.
11 (Exhibit Number 54 was marked. Description:
12 October 30, 2000.)
13 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, we probably going to
14 need a side bar on this.
15 THE COURT: All right.
16 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
17 bench.)
18 MR. MURPHY: Judge, this is -- Ms. Kuglin
19 disputed part of the assessment and collection process,
20 and there's a tax court opinion, and I would submit that
21 it was issued within the time to file for 2001 and that
22 that would provide her with notice of her obligation to
23 file.
24 MR. BECRAFT: I don't understand where the
25 government is coming from. It bears a date of February
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1 25th, 2002. I expect that the answer from this witness is
2 that she had her attorneys -- she didn't find out about
3 that decision until right before this case got started, so
4 if the witness' response is no foundation, no receipt, I
5 object to its admission.
6 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm probably going to ask
7 her first if she took her case to tax court and if she
8 knows what the outcome of it is and when did she learn
9 that.
10 THE COURT: Okay.
11 MR. BECRAFT: If the answer is sometime after
12 April 15th of 2002, I would object, Your Honor.
13 MR. MURPHY: Well, I just don't think the
14 decision comes in then.
15 (The following proceedings were had in open
16 court.)
17 THE WITNESS: Your Honor, may I ask you a
18 question, please?
19 THE COURT: It would be better to let you ask
20 your lawyer a question.
21 THE WITNESS: All right. May I ask my
22 lawyer --
23 THE COURT: You can walk around there and ask
24 them.
25 THE WITNESS: This is a physiological question.
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1 I just want a restroom break.
2 THE COURT: Why don't we take an early lunch?
3 Anybody be upset if we take an early lunch today? I
4 didn't think so. I don't blame you. We will take an
5 early lunch, and then I will have a chance to talk with
6 the lawyers just a little bit about some things that will
7 come up later, and that will save us maybe time.
8 Ladies and gentlemen, you get a long lunch
9 today. Don't let anybody talk with you about it and we
10 will see all of you at 2:00. I will let the witness step
11 down, of course, and I will hold the lawyers here for a
12 moment, we're going to go over a couple of more things.
13 We will let you be excused. Thank you very much.
14 (Jury out at 12:10 a.m.)
15 MR. BECRAFT: Can she waive her appearance in
16 the courtroom for a few minutes, Your Honor, and we can
17 proceed in her absence?
18 THE COURT: Is it okay we talk about a few
19 questions on the --
20 THE WITNESS: That's fine.
21 THE COURT: In fact, I'm just going to talk for
22 a second about them, about the instructions.
23 THE WITNESS: I'm in good hands.
24 THE COURT: Thank you. I'm just going to ask
25 them a couple of questions.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: Go ahead.
2 THE COURT: Gentlemen and ladies, we do need to
3 make sure that we have all of the materials that are going
4 to be submitted by everybody. Can I get the materials
5 that I got from -- that I sent back in the back that have
6 the notations -- I need the defendant's marked up
7 exhibits -- instructions, proposed instructions. I might
8 have them here, let me look. I do have those proposed
9 instructions out here. Thanks.
10 Okay. Let me run through them real quick, the
11 defendant's proposed instructions, the government's
12 proposed instructions are pretty much out of Sand, and
13 they're not very unusual. The defendant did have a few
14 things that we need to talk about. I am going to try to
15 use just Defendant's 11. Some of these are not a problem,
16 but we're not going to include the instructions on lesser
17 included offense. I'm just using --
18 MR. BECRAFT: I'm sorry, Your Honor.
19 THE COURT: Lesser included offense.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Okay.
21 THE COURT: We have already talked about. I'm
22 just using the Sand instruction, which is not much
23 different really from the Devitt instruction on elements
24 of the crime charged.
25 And then we go over to willfulness. I will
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1 probably use Exhibit -- or number 11 as sort of a
2 transition into the willfulness discussion. I will
3 probably use -- I'm not real clear on this number 12. I'm
4 not so clear that the proof -- what the proof has been on
5 number 12.
6 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, could I respond and
7 withdraw?
8 THE COURT: You're going to withdraw it.
9 MR. BECRAFT: I kind of like to offer to the
10 court kind of a series of instructions, kind of basically
11 get you in your frame of mind on willfulness. I will just
12 tell the court what I'm primarily driving at is the long
13 one 18, I believe it is.
14 THE COURT: Okay. And I wasn't sure about 12,
15 so is that not one you're going to pursue?
16 MR. BECRAFT: No, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: Okay. Let me mark through it,
18 because I wasn't so clear about that. Let me make a note
19 about it then.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Let me kind of pull -- I will
21 just tell the court.
22 THE COURT: Sure.
23 MR. BECRAFT: Don't be concerned with 12, 13,
24 14, although 15 has relationship to one later on that I
25 think the court is already getting into anyway, but we can
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1 pull 15, 16, and I think the court said in reference to
2 17, at least in reference to introductory instructions
3 that you gave, you seemed to indicate to me that you were
4 going down that road.
5 THE COURT: I have already got some language
6 about that.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Yeah. Beyond that, that's --
8 THE COURT: You may want to look at that. I
9 did revise 18 just a little. Because we have to take out
10 for failing to file any tax return, because there's no
11 lesser included offense, so I assume that's -- you want --
12 that needs to go out, and I changed it and said if there
13 is any doubt in your mind as to this issue -- well, if
14 there's any reasonable doubt, that's the standard. I will
15 change that. Okay. We will use 18, if we can. 19 is
16 correct, no reason not to use that.
17 MR. BECRAFT: The court is going to give it
18 then?
19 THE COURT: Well, defendant is not presumed to
20 know the law, that's true. I mean they're not required to
21 be legal experts, so -- otherwise, it wouldn't make much
22 sense.
23 Then I go over to the next thing that would be
24 includable probably would be probably 29. You hae no
25 right to find the defendant guilty only for purposes of
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1 deterring others from committing crime. Well, that's
2 true, that's always true. I don't usually have to give
3 that, but that's all right. And I have some language from
4 one of the Supreme Court decisions which deals with 30,
5 but there's nothing wrong with 30, particularly.
6 MR. BECRAFT: All I'm asking, Your Honor, is
7 for the topic to be covered.
8 THE COURT: Okay.
9 MR. BECRAFT: The court can pick the language.
10 THE COURT: Okay. And it is true in 31 that
11 the commissioner does have the power to make a return and
12 assess your tax when no return has been filed. That's
13 already been discussed. I mean they have done that in the
14 case.
15 MR. BECRAFT: Well, Your Honor, let me withdraw
16 it, because I did have some exhibits on that, but as the
17 court saw, I kind of collapsed our exhibits and we didn't
18 cover that point, so, at least from our viewpoint, I'm not
19 insisting on it.
20 THE COURT: If you don't want it, it doesn't
21 need to be given. It's one of those things where it is
22 sort of surplus probably, and if you have withdrawn it,
23 there is no reason to worry about it.
24 And what I have done on the representations
25 question is I have basically said at one point that the
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1 defendant can reply on Supreme Court decisions, on IRS
2 publications and regulations and instructions, which is
3 true.
4 MR. BECRAFT: The court give an instruction
5 like that, and I consider that to be then, therefore,
6 covered or covering this requested instruction.
7 THE COURT: Right. And Mr. Murphy agrees
8 that's the situation, so I don't see any reason -- don't
9 you, Mr. Murphy?
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I don't have any objection
11 to that.
12 THE COURT: I think we have got everything
13 covered. I wanted to cover these, and I may have included
14 some things now that I can -- I will narrow it down a
15 little more. Mr. Murphy, the cross is going to take a
16 little while longer, right?
17 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor, but I -- you
18 know, I won't belabor it. I will make my points -- part
19 of the problem I was trying to find what I needed, and I
20 will get up here before we come back from lunch, and I
21 will get organized.
22 THE COURT: Well, that's no problem. We'll let
23 you have a chance -- that's a good thing to do.
24 I have got this sort of -- I fine tuned a
25 little bit some of the Sand materials, so what we will do
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1 is we will try to get you a copy of the draft material as
2 soon as possible after lunch.
3 All right. Gentlemen, ladies, thanks very
4 much.
5 (Lunch recess taken at 12:25 until 2:00 p.m.)
6 THE COURT: All right. The witness can come
7 back around.
8 MR. MURPHY: The government is ready, Judge.
9 THE COURT: Mr. Tuggle, we can bring the jury
10 in.
11 COURT SECURITY OFFICER: Yes, Your Honor.
12 (Jury in at 2:00 a.m.)
13 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Murphy, you may
14 proceed.
15 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir, Your Honor.
16 Q. Ms. Kuglin, I want to talk a little bit about some of
17 these documents that you contend you relied upon. You have
18 got the article by Ms. Claire Kelly?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Okay. I don't know that you need to look at it. You
21 can probably answer this without looking at it.
22 A. All right.
23 Q. But Ms. Kelly was not an IRS employee or government
24 official, was she?
25 A. That's correct.
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1 Q. Okay. And this is reprinted from a publication called
2 Justice Times dated January of 1979?
3 A. I believe so, yes.
4 Q. Did you get this as part of a package of materials you
5 bought to drop out of the tax system?
6 A. I cannot answer ten years later whether I bought this
7 material or whether I picked it up at a seminar. I picked it
8 up for information only.
9 Q. Okay. But Ms. Kelly is not a government official of
10 any type?
11 A. Not that I know of.
12 Q. Okay. Now, what you also relied on was a publication
13 called Deceptive IRS Code Words?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. Okay. And that was the document that said shall
16 doesn't mean shall?
17 A. That's correct.
18 Q. Okay. Now, that's not a government publication, is it?
19 A. No, it is not, and I should say that I did not rely on
20 the document itself. That document led me to other
21 information that I relied on.
22 Q. Okay. Okay. But that's not a government document?
23 A. No, it is not.
24 Q. And this advertisement from W. James Knowles, attorney
25 at law?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. He also doesn't hold himself out to be a government
3 official of any type, does he?
4 A. No, he holds himself out to be an attorney at law.
5 Q. Okay. But you don't know whether he is or not, all you
6 know is you saw an advertisement?
7 A. That's correct. I've not met the man.
8 Q. Must You Pay Income Tax, that's another article you
9 cited; that's not a government publication, is it?
10 A. No, it is not.
11 Q. Okay. And would you agree with the statement in that
12 article that, quote, money is taken from the productive sector
13 of society by the income tax to support the nonproductive
14 sector, foreign aid, give-aways in a bloated needless
15 bureaucracy. Would you agree with that statement made in that
16 document?
17 A. In reading all the material that I came across, I find
18 that there is information and there is knowledge --
19 Q. Well, what I asked is would you agree with that
20 statement in that document?
21 A. I do not necessarily agree with that statement in that
22 document.
23 Q. Okay. Turning to what was marked as Exhibit 28, this
24 is the Internal Revenue investigation.
25 MR. MURPHY: If I can approach, Your Honor.
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1 THE COURT: You may.
2 A. I believe I have it here. Oh, no, I do not. There we
3 go.
4 Q. Now, that Internal Revenue Code investigation that is
5 going on there, that wasn't an investigation that had to do
6 with income taxes, that had to do with the alcohol tax,
7 correct?
8 A. That had to do with the Internal Revenue Service, and
9 it was Mr. Avis who was the head of Alcohol, Tobacco and
10 Firearms at that time.
11 Q. Okay. But on Thursday, February the 3rd, 1953, when
12 these statements were made, what they were talking about was
13 politics and the alcohol tax department?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. Okay. And this statement about voluntariness of the
16 income tax, that's a one sentence deal, right?
17 A. Yes, he was showing the difference between the income
18 tax side of the IRS and the ATF side.
19 Q. Now, you also said you relied on what's been marked as
20 Exhibit 40. I'll pass you a copy of that.
21 A. Thank you.
22 Q. There you go, ma'am.
23 Now, that was treasury decisions from 1916, correct?
24 A. That's correct.
25 Q. Okay. You also, I believe, talked about a treatise
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1 that had to do with the federal income tax under the Act of
2 1913 that had to do with United States residents. We didn't
3 admit that into evidence, but I have got a copy of it.
4 A. Let me just look this over, briefly. Yes. I recognize
5 the document.
6 Q. That's dated 1915?
7 A. That is dated -- federal income tax under the Act of
8 1913, and the date was 19 -- the date of this opinion was
9 1915.
10 Q. Okay. Thank you.
11 A. Thanks.
12 MR. BECRAFT: No objections to the exhibit,
13 Your Honor.
14 MR. MURPHY: Your Honor, can I approach the
15 witness?
16 THE COURT: You may.
17 Q. Ma'am, I'm going to show you a bunch of 1040 returns
18 for 1996 through 2001. Can you look at those, and do you
19 recognize those as 1040 returns?
20 A. Yes, I do.
21 Q. Now, highlighted on each one, there's an OMB number,
22 isn't that correct?
23 A. That's correct.
24 Q. What is that number?
25 A. That number is 1545-0074.
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1 Q. Okay. Now, if you would look at --
2 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could move that into
3 evidence as a collective exhibit, all those tax returns,
4 the blanks.
5 THE COURT: Exhibit 55.
6 (Exhibit Number 55 was marked. Description:
7 Tax Returns.)
8 Q. And that OMB number is on every one of those, correct?
9 A. I am presuming that it is. I did not look at every
10 one.
11 Q. Look at every one, please.
12 A. All right. That's correct.
13 Q. Okay. Thank you. Now, was your study -- you described
14 your study of the income tax law as a thorough study, correct?
15 A. I believe it was as thorough as I could do of it.
16 Q. Okay. And basically one of your contentions is that
17 under the OMB requirements, and you submitted as Exhibit 37, a
18 list of OMB control numbers for documents, correct?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. Okay. Now, those income tax returns had the number
21 1554-0074 on it, right?
22 A. That's correct.
23 Q. Now, that control number is all over that list that you
24 put into evidence, isn't it?
25 A. Yes, that is correct. However, the only number --
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1 Q. Ma'am, ma'am.
2 A. Yes, that is correct.
3 Q. Is it all over there?
4 A. It is all over that list, along with many others, yes.
5 Q. Right, in several places. Would you look and see if
6 that number is at -- for Section 1.6012-1, that particular
7 control number?
8 A. That was 1. --
9 Q. 6012-1.
10 A. I don't find a 1.60. Maybe I'm missing it here
11 somewhere.
12 Q. If I could take a look at it. I didn't want to mark
13 the exhibits up. Do you see where I have circled?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. Okay. Now, it's true, isn't it, that that particular
16 portion of the CFR has to do with individuals required to make
17 returns of income and specifies that the Form 1040 return is
18 to be used?
19 A. It's saying on this form that the form 1545-0074 is an
20 applicable form for 1.6012.
21 Q. Okay. Can you -- you see up here on the screen?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Okay. And would you read the highlighted language?
24 A. Yes, it applies to individual citizens or residents,
25 and it says in general except as provided in subparagraph two
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1 of this paragraph, an income tax return must be filed by every
2 individual for each taxable year beginning before January 1st,
3 1973, during which he receives six hundred dollars or more of
4 gross income and for each taxable year beginning after
5 December 31st, 1972, during which he received $750 or more of
6 gross income. If such individual is, one, a citizen of the
7 United States whether residing at home or abroad; two --
8 excuse me.
9 Q. Let's --
10 A. -- a resident of the United States even though not a
11 citizen thereof; or, three, an alien bona fide resident of
12 Puerto Rico during the entire taxable year.
13 Q. Okay. And then if you would flip over, would you read
14 that highlighted language?
15 A. Yes, this is number six, I believe, and it says forms
16 of return. Form 1040 is prepared for general use in making
17 the return required under this paragraph.
18 Q. Now, you came across that section of the Code of
19 Federal Regulations in your research, didn't you?
20 A. Yes, I did.
21 Q. Okay. And, in fact, that's what that code says, isn't
22 it?
23 A. That is what that code says. That is not in the
24 subtitle --
25 Q. Ma'am, ma'am.
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1 A. I'm sorry.
2 Q. I need you to answer the question, that's what it says?
3 A. That's what it says, yes, sir.
4 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we have the CFR
5 marked as an exhibit?
6 THE COURT: Exhibit 56.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, could we have a side
8 bar?
9 THE COURT: Certainly.
10 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
11 bench.)
12 MR. BECRAFT: I think that the prosecution's
13 offer is for the whole rather than the parts that we have
14 covered in testimony.
15 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I will make copies and
16 substitute it later.
17 THE COURT: Just the passages.
18 MR. MURPHY: Just the passages. I don't have a
19 problem with that, Judge.
20 (The following proceedings were had in open
21 court.)
22 THE COURT: We're going to make copies of the
23 pages and passages that are referred to and not put the
24 whole book in, because that would be too voluminous, so we
25 will make copies of those particular passages that are
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1 referred to.
2 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I will take care of that at
3 the break, and what was the exhibit number for that?
4 THE COURT: 56.
5 (Exhibit Number 56 was marked. Description:
6 CFR Passages.)
7 Q. Do you have your IRS code book with you up there,
8 ma'am?
9 A. I do.
10 Q. Could you open it up -- oh, I don't mean to skip
11 around. Before we go there, now, did you look up -- you had
12 access to the Memphis State law library?
13 A. That's correct.
14 Q. And they have a complete collection of federal law
15 books there, correct?
16 A. Yes, they have a lot of books there.
17 Q. Did you read the case of United States versus Wunder, a
18 Sixth Circuit, 1990 case?
19 A. No, that is not familiar to me.
20 Q. So you didn't run across the Wunder case where they --
21 basically, the court rejected this type of argument having to
22 do with OMB?
23 A. There are a lot of decisions that rejected this type of
24 argument. The courts don't seem to be able to agree on the
25 definition of income.
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1 Q. Well, I'm talking about the OMB aspect.
2 A. Oh, I'm sorry, no.
3 Q. There are several decisions that have rejected this
4 argument that you don't have to file a tax return because of
5 the OMB number, correct?
6 A. That is not something that is of my knowledge. I will
7 accept that that is what you're stating that that is correct.
8 Q. Okay. But you didn't -- you didn't go to those law
9 books and conduct a search to see if the courts had upheld
10 this kind of argument, did you?
11 A. No, I relied on the IRS's index which was required
12 under the Paper Reduction Act.
13 Q. Okay. If you would get your code book out, if you
14 would go to Section 1.
15 A. All right.
16 Q. Section 1 reads tax imposed, correct?
17 A. Yes, that's correct.
18 Q. And it -- subsection C, it reads unmarried individuals
19 other than surviving spouses and heads of household?
20 A. That's correct.
21 Q. Okay. And it says -- it follows that there is hereby
22 imposed on the taxable income of every individual other than a
23 surviving spouse as defined in Section 2 or the head of a
24 household as defined in Section 2B, who is not a married
25 individual as defined in 7703, a tax determined in accordance
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1 with the following table.
2 A. That is what it says.
3 Q. And you would agree that that is what it says?
4 A. I agree that's what it says.
5 Q. Okay. Now, would you turn to Section 7203 of your code
6 book? Once you get to 7203, let me ask you some other
7 questions real quick.
8 A. I have 7203.
9 Q. Going back to your one, in your study of the tax code,
10 you came across Section 1, didn't you?
11 A. Yes, I did.
12 Q. Okay. So today is not the first time you're hearing
13 about this?
14 A. Not at all.
15 Q. In fact, you came across it years ago, didn't you?
16 A. Yes, I did, when I was doing my research.
17 Q. Now, in -- what your belief is that the government
18 can't tax your wages or they can't tax your income you make as
19 a pilot, right?
20 A. What my understanding is that the courts have ruled
21 that occupations of common right are not taxable as an excise
22 tax. In other words, income tax.
23 Q. Okay. Well, no federal court that has dealt -- that
24 has applied the current income tax code has made that ruling,
25 have they?
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1 A. Well, I believe that that was Chief Justice's ruling,
2 Justice White in the Brushaber case, which actually defined
3 income as an excise tax.
4 Q. Well, I'm not talking about a tax code that they passed
5 in 1913, I'm talking about the current tax code.
6 A. That was not a tax code, that was a Supreme Court
7 decision based on the --
8 Q. Ma'am, no federal court has held that wages aren't
9 subject to income tax.
10 A. I believe the Brushaber case did.
11 Q. Well, after Brushaber, in the last hundred years.
12 A. I don't -- I can't say that, because I haven't read all
13 of them.
14 Q. Okay. But you did extensive research?
15 A. Yes, I did research on cases which I had been given
16 information, would explain certain questions that I had, yes,
17 but I did not -- I have not read every case, that would be
18 impossible.
19 Q. Okay. Look at 7203.
20 A. All right.
21 Q. Now, that makes a penalty or provides that any person
22 required under this title to pay any estimated tax or tax
23 required by this title or by regulations made under the
24 authority thereof to make a return, keep any records or supply
25 any information who willfully fails to pay such estimated tax
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1 or tax make such return, keep such records or supply such
2 information at the time or times required by the law or the
3 regulations shall, in addition to other penalties, be guilty
4 of -- and I'm just going to say a crime.
5 A. Right.
6 Q. But that provides that if you don't file, you have
7 committed a crime, right?
8 A. I agree it says any person required under any tax of
9 this title shall make a return.
10 Q. Right. Okay. Now, can you turn to 6651 of your tax
11 code? Let me ask you this: You came across 7203 in your
12 study of the tax code.
13 A. Oh, yes. What was the other section?
14 Q. 6651.
15 A. I have it.
16 Q. 6651, it's true, isn't it, provides for penalties for
17 failure to file a tax return, an income tax return?
18 A. Well, it says any -- the failure to file any return
19 required under authority of subchapter eight of chapter 61, it
20 says chapter 51, it says alcohol, tobacco, cigars, cigarettes,
21 cigarette papers and a list of numerous other ones.
22 Q. Let's back up, let's talk about subchapter A of chapter
23 61. Subchapter A, it's true, isn't it, that's the subchapter
24 of the Internal Revenue Code that has to do with income taxes?
25 A. I would agree with that.
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1 Q. Okay. And if -- I have got an index here that might
2 help you from the United States Code Annotated. What does
3 chapter 61 deal with.
4 A. It deals with gross income defined. Oh, 6001?
5 Q. Right.
6 A. Are you talking about Section 61 or Section 6001?
7 Q. I'm talking about chapter 61 of subtitle A.
8 A. Well, let me look for chapter 69.
9 Q. This index might help you.
10 A. All right. Okay. It says chapter --
11 Q. What does it say there highlighted?
12 A. It says subtitle A, income taxes, I'm looking for
13 chapter 61.
14 Q. Why don't you go down here, what does chapter 61 say?
15 A. This does not say chapter -- this is -- oh, chapter, it
16 says information returns.
17 Q. That does say chapter?
18 A. Right, right, I see what you mean now, because that
19 other section referred to 61, and you brought -- right, okay,
20 now, I have got it.
21 Q. It's true that it said --
22 A. We're on the same page.
23 Q. Okay. So what it is referring to is --
24 A. 6001.
25 Q. 6001?
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1 A. Right.
2 Q. Okay. Let's talk about what 6001 says. Now, it's
3 true, isn't it, that 6001 says every person liable for any tax
4 imposed by this title or for the collection thereof shall keep
5 such records, render such statements, make such returns and
6 comply with such rules and regulations as the secretary may
7 from time to time prescribe. Whenever in the judgment of the
8 secretary it is necessary, he may require any such person
9 served -- by a notice served upon such person or by
10 regulations to make such returns, render such statements or
11 keep such records as the secretary deems sufficient to show
12 whether or not such person is liable for tax under this title.
13 The only records which an employer should be required to keep
14 under this section in connection with charge receipts, records
15 necessary to comply with Section 6053 and copies and
16 statements furnished by employees thereunder or employees
17 under Section 6053.
18 A. That's correct, that's what it says.
19 Q. Now, if you would turn to 6011.
20 A. 6011, I have it.
21 Q. Yes, ma'am. That says, it's true -- and this -- this
22 6001 section, you have known about that for several years?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. You knew about that before you stopped filing income
25 taxes?
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1 A. Yes, I did.
2 Q. Okay. And you were aware of the regulation that had to
3 do with the 1040s we talked about before you stopped filing
4 income tax returns, correct?
5 A. I was aware of the fact that the 1040 said that the
6 authority by which they could ask me to file, it was this
7 section, 6001, section 6011
8 Q. Okay. But you also testified you were aware of that
9 regulation we talked about?
10 A. The regulation 1.1-1?
11 Q. Well, no, this was -- I'm talking about -- this
12 regulation in this book. Remember, you read it, we put it on
13 the screen, it was in yellow.
14 A. It was, I believe, in the 6000 series of that section.
15 Q. Yes, ma'am.
16 A. Right.
17 Q. You have been aware of that for several years?
18 A. Yes, I have.
19 Q. Okay. In fact, you were aware of that before you
20 stopped filing income tax returns?
21 A. That's correct.
22 Q. Okay. Now, 6011 says when required by regulations
23 prescribed by the secretary any person made liable for any tax
24 imposed by this title or with respect to the collection
25 thereof shall make a return or statement according to the
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1 forms and regulations prescribed by the secretary.
2 A. Yes, it does say any person made liable shall.
3 Q. And it says shall, right?
4 A. Yes, it does.
5 Q. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
6 Now, can you turn to -- and this 611 section, you have
7 known about that for years?
8 A. Oh, yes, it is torn out of my book.
9 Q. Okay. If you turn to 6012, 6012.
10 A. Yes, 6012.
11 Q. Okay. Now, that provides, doesn't it, that returns
12 with respect to income taxes under subtitle A shall be made by
13 the following?
14 A. Yes, that's what it says.
15 Q. It goes to list who has got to make the returns.
16 Again, that says shall, doesn't it?
17 A. Yes, it says each individual -- let me read this. Yes,
18 it says returns with respect to income taxes under subtitle A
19 shall be made by the following.
20 Q. Okay. Now -- and it lists who --
21 A. It lists individuals, it goes on and lists
22 corporations, every estate, be it political organization,
23 homeowners association, persons under disability, receivers,
24 trustees, it goes on for several pages.
25 Q. Let's back up a second. The first section you come to
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1 deals with individuals?
2 A. Yes, it says every individual having for the taxable
3 year.
4 Q. Okay. And you have known about that section of the
5 code for several years, haven't you?
6 A. Yes, I have.
7 Q. In the study of the case law, you have read a number of
8 cases that you told us about. Did you read the case of United
9 States versus Shift where the Second Circuit said --
10 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, before we -- may we
11 approach?
12 THE COURT: You may.
13 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
14 bench.)
15 MR. BECRAFT: The prosecution is assuming facts
16 in evidence. If the government wants to try to impeach
17 her with cases, I think the first thing that must be done
18 is to confirm whether or not the witness has any personal
19 information or knowledge about the case that he's going to
20 be examining her on. If the witness says I don't know
21 anything about the case, then quoting from it or asking
22 further questions about it, there's lack of personal
23 foundation for the question then.
24 THE COURT: It wouldn't impeach her good faith,
25 I don't think.
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1 MR. MURPHY: Well, Judge, I think it would,
2 because the Shift case is right on point about the
3 voluntariness of taxes.
4 MR. BECRAFT: She doesn't know --
5 MR. BERNHOFT: The question isn't whether her
6 belief is correct about the law.
7 MR. MURPHY: I understand that. The question
8 is, is there a good faith basis for belief, and I think I
9 can go into the extent of her --
10 THE COURT: You're going to her lack of
11 thoroughness of the inquiry?
12 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir. And that that would
13 result in a lack of good faith.
14 THE COURT: What is the case?
15 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I just have a snippet from
16 it, because I was going to do a Power Point, but I ran out
17 of time.
18 THE COURT: I was just making sure it
19 preceded -- it was during the period she did the research,
20 and I think it is. I think it would be unfair to ask her
21 about a case --
22 MR. BECRAFT: The witness doesn't know, is my
23 point, Your Honor.
24 THE COURT: Well, I think that some inquiry as
25 to the thoroughness of one's -- one person's investigation
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1 is allowed. I'm not saying -- inquiring into it ad
2 nauseam would be inappropriate, because there would have
3 to be some indication that there was a case that a person
4 would have had access to had they made diligent inquiry,
5 but not necessarily that she --
6 MR. MURPHY: Judge, what about the general
7 questions, in your research -- well --
8 THE COURT: You're entitled to examine the
9 thoroughness of her research.
10 MR. MURPHY: I think I can ask her this.
11 THE COURT: And I think you can ask her a few
12 questions about a specific case or two, but not ten cases.
13 MR. MURPHY: I won't, Judge.
14 MR. BECRAFT: How about the substance, Your
15 Honor? It seems like to me, though, if the witness has
16 not read it, having the government ask a question through
17 its cross and it's a leading question, but to lead off --
18 THE COURT: I'm going to allow it on this case.
19 I mean the government's argument -- otherwise a person --
20 it's somewhat of a logical inquiry, and I think you can
21 test a person's logic.
22 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I won't beat the horse to
23 death, I think I'm getting near the end. I'm going to ask
24 her about the '92 and '93 tax books.
25 THE COURT: Sure.
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1 MR. MURPHY: And that's going to be about it.
2 THE COURT: Okay. I'll overrule the objection
3 with the limitations that we discussed.
4 MR. MURPHY: Yes, sir.
5 (The following proceedings were had in open
6 court.)
7 BY MR. MURPHY:
8 Q. Ms. Kuglin, during the course of your research, did you
9 come across the case of United States versus Shift at 876
10 F.2d, 272, a 1989 decision, Second Circuit where they said to
11 the extent that income taxes are said to be voluntary,
12 however, they're only voluntary in that one files the returns
13 and pays the taxes without the IRS first telling each
14 individual the amount due and then forces the payment of that
15 amount. The payment of income tax is not optional. Did you
16 run across that opinion?
17 A. I don't recall running across -- there were many, many
18 cases I brought into court with me, the ones that I felt were
19 the most descriptive of my thought process, and I know that
20 there are contradicting cases all through the judicial system.
21 Q. Okay. So the answer is --
22 A. That is not one of the cases that I chose to bring into
23 the court. I may or may not have read it at some point in
24 time, I can't confirm on that.
25 Q. So you could have read it, maybe you did, maybe you
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1 didn't?
2 A. Right. And I may have read excerpts -- many cases I
3 had experts from, that I did not actually go to the law
4 library and find those specific cases and read entirely
5 through them.
6 Q. Now, one of your exhibits was Exhibit 36. And I'm
7 going to put page two up here on the screen.
8 A. I can see.
9 Q. Can you see it?
10 A. Yes, I can.
11 Q. That says in -- and this is from the instructions, the
12 code provides for penalties for failure to file a return,
13 failure to supply information required by law or regulations,
14 failure to furnish specific information required on return
15 forms or for furnishing fraudulent information. Other effects
16 of not providing all or part of the requested information may
17 include the disallowance of claimed exemptions, exclusion
18 credits, deductions or adjustments resulting from an increased
19 tax liability, the loss of social security credits, loss or
20 delaying the issuance of a refund for overpayment, interest
21 and penalty charges, unpaid taxes or other disadvantages to
22 the taxpayer. Now, this is some of the language in this
23 notice that you claim you relied on in including that you
24 weren't required to file taxes, correct?
25 A. Yes, that part that you just read does say there are
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1 penalties for persons required by the law or regulations.
2 Q. Okay. But this is -- this is part of what you relied
3 on in arriving to the conclusion that you didn't have to pay
4 taxes?
5 A. Yes, Section 6001 and 6011 of the beginning of that
6 paragraph -- those paragraphs.
7 Q. But what I'm saying is this document right here --
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. -- that you claim that says -- makes the payment of
10 taxes voluntary, it also talks about penalties if you don't
11 pay. You relied on that in formulating your conclusion?
12 A. I need to correct your sentence there. You said that I
13 relied on it to say that it was voluntary. I did not.
14 Q. Ma'am, is the answer yes or no?
15 A. Well, your question is wrong, Mr. Murphy.
16 Q. Well, did you rely on the information in this?
17 A. I relied on the information that is written there. I
18 did not rely on that information to determine whether or not
19 the tax was voluntary or not.
20 Q. Okay. But -- so you did rely on this information, you
21 read it?
22 A. Yes, yes, I did.
23 Q. Okay. I stand corrected on it.
24 A. Thank you.
25 Q. Now, do you recognize this document?
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1 A. Yes, 1992 Form 1040.
2 Q. Okay. And this is a government publication?
3 A. Yes, it is.
4 Q. Okay. And the 1992 1040 was one of the documents that
5 you relied on in arriving at your conclusion, correct, that
6 you didn't have to file taxes?
7 A. I believe I did file a 1992.
8 Q. Okay. You filed -- well, let me ask you this: Let me
9 back up a second. I may have something wrong here. I think I
10 got the right one now.
11 A. All right.
12 Q. Okay. What is this?
13 A. This is -- should be a 19 -- well, there's no date.
14 1993, yes, it's big letters, 1993 1040 form.
15 Q. Now, this is one of the publications that you relied on
16 in making your conclusion or arriving at your conclusion that
17 you didn't have to file returns or pay taxes?
18 A. I relied on the Privacy and Paperwork Reduction Act
19 instructions to determine if I was a person referred to in
20 6001 and 6011, yes, sir.
21 Q. So you relied --
22 A. On the information in that document, yes.
23 MR. MURPHY: Judge, could we have this marked
24 as the next numbered exhibit?
25 THE COURT: 47 -- 57. 57, excuse me.
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1 (Exhibit Number 57 was marked. Description:
2 1993 Instructions.)
3 MR. MURPHY: Judge, was that 57?
4 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I have 57.
5 Q. Okay. Ma'am, I am going to -- I'm going to put a
6 passage up there. This is from page four. Would you agree
7 that it says if you do not file a return, do not provide the
8 information we ask for or provide fraudulent information, the
9 law says that you may be charged penalties; in certain cases,
10 you may be subject to criminal prosecution?
11 A. That is what it says.
12 Q. Okay. And, in fact, that's the same page that talks
13 about the Paperwork Reduction Act, isn't it?
14 A. That is correct.
15 Q. Now, I'm going to show you page seven of that same
16 document, and this is a page that's entitled Do I Have to
17 File?
18 A. Yes, that's what it says.
19 Q. Okay. And there's a little chart, and what does the
20 highlighted language say?
21 A. It says single, including divorced and legally
22 separated. It says filing -- I'm sorry, it says marital
23 status; single (including divorced and legally separated;
24 second column is filing status, single head of household; age,
25 under 65, 65 or older, under 65, 65 or older; and then it says
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1 gross income, and the highlighted portion says $6,050.
2 Q. Okay. And it also says use -- this is chart A we just
3 talked about, right?
4 A. Right, it says chart A for most people.
5 Q. Okay. And it says use chart A on this page to see if
6 you must file a return?
7 A. That's right, it says use chart A on this paper to see
8 if you must file a return.
9 Q. Okay. Okay. And I'm putting up page 15.
10 A. All right.
11 Q. Okay. Would you read the highlighted language on page
12 15?
13 A. The highlighted language, it says -- it's under wages
14 salaries, tips, et cetera. Show the total of all wages,
15 salaries, fees, commissions, tips, bonuses, supplemental
16 unemployment benefits and other amounts you were paid before
17 taxes, insurance, et cetera, or taken out for a joint return.
18 Be sure to include your spouse's income on line seven.
19 Q. Okay. And it goes on to say, included in this total,
20 the amount that would -- that should be shown in box one on
21 W-2, report all wages, salaries and tips you have received
22 even if you do not have a Form W-2.
23 A. That is what the form says.
24 Q. Okay. Now, referring to page 36, there's language
25 there, would you read the highlighted language?
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1 A. Yes. The first highlight says because you take a
2 frivolous position, and the other highlight says other
3 penalties can be imposed for negligence, substantial
4 understatement of tax and fraud, criminal penalties may be
5 imposed for willful failure to file, tax evasion or making a
6 false statement.
7 Q. Okay. And that's all information that was in this 1993
8 1040, part of which you relied upon in arriving at your
9 conclusion that you didn't have to file a tax return and pay
10 taxes?
11 A. That is correct, that was information that I relied on
12 to determine if I was a person liable, yes.
13 Q. Okay. Now, the document that I'm handing you, what is
14 that document?
15 A. That's a 1995 Form 1040.
16 Q. Okay. Now, did you have a '95 1040 booklet like this?
17 A. I believe so. Let me double check. Yes, 1995.
18 Q. Okay. And I believe you testified you used this
19 booklet in aiding your testimony, correct?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Okay. Now, if you look at what I have got up there,
22 that first full paragraph, our legal right to ask you for
23 information is Internal Revenue Code Section 6001, 6011 and
24 6012A under regulations, they say that you must file a return
25 or statement with us for any tax you are liable for. Your
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1 response is mandatory under these sections. Now, that's what
2 that section says, correct?
3 A. That is absolutely correct.
4 Q. Okay. And it also goes on in the underlying language
5 to say if you do not file a return, do not provide the
6 information that we asked for or to provide fraudulent
7 information, you may be charged penalties and be subject to
8 criminal prosecution?
9 A. That is correct, that's what it says.
10 Q. Now, I'm going over to Section 2, if you would look at
11 page eight, ma'am. I'm going to put it up here, but --
12 A. Page eight? I have page eight.
13 Q. Under Do I have To File?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. It says use chart A, B or C to see if you must file a
16 return?
17 A. That's correct.
18 Q. Okay. And if you go over here to chart A, it indicates
19 you must file a return if your gross income for single,
20 including divorced or separated if your gross income was
21 $6400, correct, if you're under 65?
22 A. That is correct, that is what it says.
23 Q. Okay. And turning to page 35, there's also a provision
24 on page 35 that provides other penalties can be imposed for
25 negligence, substantial understatement of tax, and fraud.
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1 Criminal penalties may be imposed for willful failure to file,
2 tax evasion or making a false statement, correct?
3 A. I would like to see what the top -- what the top of
4 that page is.
5 Q. Sure.
6 A. I'm looking for page 35 right now. All right. This is
7 under the section for general information, and it says other
8 penalties --
9 Q. Well, this is under the section of interest and
10 penalties.
11 A. Interest and penalties, yes, I was looking at the
12 general session, which starts -- this section starts on the
13 previous page. Under interest and penalties, yes, that is
14 what it says.
15 Q. And this is one of the books -- is this one of the
16 publications that you used in determining that you didn't have
17 to pay taxes?
18 A. This is one of the documents I used. I determined
19 whether or not I had a liability -- whether I was liable or
20 had been made liable, yes, sir.
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if we could have this
22 marked as an exhibit.
23 THE COURT: Exhibit 58.
24 (Exhibit Number 58 was marked. Description:
25 1995 1040 Instructions.)
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1 MR. MURPHY: Judge, if I could have one second
2 to look at my notes.
3 THE COURT: Sure.
4 Q. Ms. Kuglin?
5 A. Yes, sir.
6 Q. Now, you have not filed a refund for all these taxes
7 you have paid all over the years, have you?
8 A. Since 1993, that's correct.
9 Q. Okay. And your general practice is on the day you get
10 paid, you go down to the bank and you take out large amounts
11 of cash that same day or the next day, correct?
12 A. It depends. It depends upon what my flying schedule
13 is, whether I'm going to be in town for awhile and what funds
14 I'm required to pay of my general bills which are not
15 automatically deducted, yes, sir.
16 Q. But if you look at the bank records --
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. -- there's several big withdrawals like four, five, six
19 thousand dollars the day after you got paid?
20 A. That's correct, yes.
21 MR. MURPHY: I don't have any further
22 questions, Your Honor.
23 THE COURT: Redirect?
24 MR. BECRAFT: Can the witness be handed
25 Exhibits 48 and 54 and 57 and 58?
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1 THE WITNESS: Would you like Exhibit 28 back?
2 THE CLERK: I'll get it when I come up there.
3 MR. BECRAFT: Can I help her, Your Honor?
4 THE COURT: Sure.
5 THE WITNESS: Which one was that, Mr. Becraft?
6 MR. BECRAFT: 28 through 54.
7 THE CLERK: There's 48 through 54.
8 MR. BECRAFT: May I also get Exhibit 15, Your
9 Honor?
10 THE CLERK: It's probably in that other stack
11 in numerical order.
12 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
13 BY MR. BECRAFT:
14 Q. Ms. Kuglin, I want to ask you some questions about the
15 W-4 forms that you submitted to FedEx, if I can.
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. The first one you submitted was in December of '95, is
18 that correct?
19 A. That's correct, December the 30th, I believe.
20 Q. I'm going to flip it down here on the Elmo, and I want
21 you to tell me what was it on this form that you thought
22 was -- that you read that related to it being permissible for
23 you to claim exempt. Can you kind of see?
24 A. Yeah, if you move the form just slighted to your left.
25 A little bit more. Five, six and seven. Yes. Actually, it
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1 was -- earlier in the instructions, it said, I believe, if I
2 felt that I file exempt, that I would then fill out
3 sections -- Section 7. Section 7 says I claim exemption from
4 a holding for 1995, that I certify that I meet both of the
5 following conditions or exemptions. Last year, I had a right
6 to a refund of all federal income tax withheld because I had
7 no tax liability; and this year, I expect a refund of all
8 federal income tax withheld because I expect to have no tax
9 liability. And the fact that based on --
10 Q. Can I point out here? Watch on the screen what you
11 just read, see where that pen is?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. On Government Exhibit -- I mean on Exhibit Number 17
14 down here at the bottom, it says 17.
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. I am now pointing with the pen to number seven, which
17 is about an inch below the --
18 A. Yes, that's correct.
19 Q. And you relied upon your ability to file exempt because
20 the form said --
21 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
22 leading.
23 THE COURT: Objection sustained, it is leading.
24 Q. Is this what you relied upon?
25 A. Yes, I did.
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1 Q. The language you just read?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Now, all these other Form W-4s, did they have the same
4 language? I'm going to go down on the screen here to Exhibit
5 15, you see that? I'm going to move what I think is a spot
6 that would be similar.
7 A. This is a 1998 form?
8 Q. I'll show you, it says 1998.
9 A. Right, 1988.
10 Q. And this has a series of forms W-4 in it. Now, is
11 there the same language that appears on this one that's in
12 1988?
13 A. Under 6B, it says: I claim exemption from withholding
14 because, and then A says last year I did not owe any federal
15 income tax and had a right to refund of all income tax
16 withheld; and this year, I do not expect to owe any federal
17 income tax and expect to have a right to a refund on income
18 tax withheld. Yes, that's the same language.
19 Q. Now, let me just quickly -- in this particular exhibit,
20 we have also in one that I believe you testified on direct
21 that this was the '97 one?
22 A. Yes, '96 is crossed out and 1997 is written in.
23 Q. And on the screen, it doesn't look too good, but is
24 that a date of January 1?
25 A. I believe that's January 1, 1997.
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1 Q. Now, was there something on this particular form that
2 you can direct our attention that allowed you to claim exempt?
3 A. Yes, if you will move the form just slightly to your
4 left under number seven, it says I claim exemption from
5 withholding for 1998, and I certify that I meet both of the
6 following conditions. And would you like me to read those
7 conditions?
8 Q. First, is my pen pointed at the right spot?
9 A. Yes, it is, that is correct.
10 Q. Could I get to you read that line?
11 A. Yes. Last year, I had a right to a refund of all
12 federal income tax withheld because I had no tax liability;
13 and this year, I expect refund of all federal income tax
14 withheld because I expect to have no tax liability.
15 Q. I flipped to the next page in Exhibit Number 17, and
16 I'm going to show to you a W-4 form for, I guess, 1998, is
17 that correct?
18 A. Yes, that's correct.
19 Q. Your signature appears down there on the bottom?
20 A. Right.
21 Q. I'm going to kind of move around on the screen and see
22 if my pen goes to the spot where you think it is important?
23 A. That is correct, number seven.
24 Q. And is this what are you relied upon in claiming
25 exemption?
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1 A. Yes, I did.
2 Q. Were these words important where I'm flashing my pen
3 right now, because I had no tax liability?
4 A. Yes, those were the most important words in those two.
5 Q. I'm going to put my pen on, I think, the line of the
6 form that was important for you, is that correct?
7 A. That is correct, line number seven, and the words which
8 were essential where I had no tax liability, and I expect to
9 have no tax liability.
10 Q. Correct me if I'm wrong, the same language appears for
11 this one for 2000?
12 A. That's correct, number seven, I had no tax liability
13 and I expect to have no tax liability.
14 Q. Okay. Now, 2001, same language?
15 A. Yes, dated February the 10th of 2000, same language,
16 number seven, I claim exemption because I had no tax liability
17 and expect to have no tax liability.
18 Q. Ms. Kuglin, what is it about being liable that is
19 important to you?
20 A. The instructions on the 1040 form say that Section 6001
21 and 6011 are the sections that I should rely upon to determine
22 whether or not I am liable for the individual income tax
23 and -- or whether I have been made liable. And I found in
24 reviewing those sections and other sections of the code, I
25 could not find any section of the code that made me liable for
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1 the individual income tax, and I could find no law that
2 required me as such to complete the 1040 form.
3 Q. Ms. Kuglin, I would like to ask you some questions
4 about that November of 1995 letter that you wrote to the IRS,
5 do you remember that?
6 A. I remember that, yes.
7 Q. Can I ask you some broad general questions about it
8 without digging out the exhibit?
9 A. Yes.
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, can we approach?
11 THE COURT: Yes.
12 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
13 bench.)
14 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to
15 that. Defense counsel is going outside the scope of
16 direct. I didn't -- cross, I didn't ask about that
17 letter.
18 THE COURT: I don't think he asked about that
19 the '95 letter.
20 MR. BECRAFT: Okay. All right. Good enough,
21 Your Honor.
22 THE COURT: Thank you.
23 (The following proceedings were had in open
24 court.)
25 Q. Ms. Kuglin, do you have in front of you Exhibits 48 and
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1 54?
2 A. I have 48 and I have 54.
3 Q. Okay. Have you seen them before, that series of
4 letters?
5 A. Yes I have.
6 Q. Can I ask general questions without going to a specific
7 exhibit?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. What's the first letter dated there, 48, I believe?
10 A. This is a letter from the IRS.
11 Q. To you?
12 A. To me, dated October 31st, '95.
13 Q. Did you at any time after that date in reference to
14 these letters that you were getting from the Internal Revenue
15 Service that are there in front of you, Exhibits 48 through
16 54, did you make any effort to seek legal counsel?
17 A. Absolutely, I did. This number three on this form
18 dated October 31st says if you're not required to file, please
19 explain why. And I had written the letter -- the November
20 letters asking the questions, explaining my -- the information
21 that I had obtained and asked for a response. When I did not
22 get a response, I had an opportunity to go to the IRS and
23 speak with an agent to get some response, and did not; and
24 then later I decided that it was time to -- I was actually
25 directed to go to a law library or hire an attorney.
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1 Q. Let me stop you right there.
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. You were directed to do what by whom?
4 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm -- it's irrelevant.
5 It's hearsay and it's irrelevant.
6 THE COURT: It is hearsay.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Okay, I will move on, Judge.
8 A. All right. I -- due to certain circumstances, the fact
9 that I had not gotten answers to my specific questions, I had
10 made a decision to hire --
11 MR. MURPHY: Judge, objection, I'm going to
12 object to the relevance of this.
13 THE COURT: Let's talk about it. I need to
14 check one thing.
15 (The following proceedings had at side-bar
16 bench.)
17 THE COURT: She is not asserting she relied on
18 the advice of attorney.
19 MR. BECRAFT: No, my whole point, Judge, is she
20 got Exhibits 48 through 54. She sought counsel and turned
21 the matter over to counsel, that's -- and that's the point
22 I want her to make. Not what counsel said, I'm not going
23 to -- I'm not offering any --
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I think that it doesn't
25 matter. The reason those letters come is they give her
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1 notice, and I can argue they gave her notice of the
2 requirement that she pay her income tax.
3 MR. BECRAFT: And we can show the context in
4 which the letters are sent to her, her response, which
5 would include her turning the letters over to an attorney.
6 THE COURT: She doesn't have any -- it's a
7 little confusing, though, because if she turned them over
8 to a lawyer and the lawyer said on my advice you shouldn't
9 do anything, then she can assert that and rely on it. We
10 might have a lawyer here, but she can assert that, but she
11 didn't do that. I'm a little confused about how --
12 MR. BECRAFT: The only point I want to elicit
13 is she is unfamiliar with administrative procedures, she
14 started receiving letters, she sought counsel and turned
15 these matters over to her counsel and just leave it at
16 that.
17 THE COURT: What -- Mr. Murphy, how does that
18 work?
19 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I think it is irrelevant.
20 I think the letters are significant for this reason: She
21 got notice that -- of the tax -- that she owed taxes and
22 taxes were due and owing during the period that she didn't
23 file. I don't think that the fact that she hired an
24 attorney has any relevance to the case.
25 THE COURT: Well, it would if she had --
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1 MR. MURPHY: That is not what they're relying
2 on.
3 MR. BECRAFT: It kind of ties back into those
4 other exhibits. You know, some of these letters will be
5 responsive. These letters offered here provoke the
6 response from the lawyers that are these other letters
7 that we have excluded, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: Well, it's not relevant to an issue
9 in the case that I can -- somebody -- somebody can explain
10 it so I will understand what it is, but I don't perceive
11 it as being a relevant issue in the case, because she
12 didn't do anything in response to the lawyers. I mean if
13 she sent them to her CPA, then took no action because she
14 was awaiting a response from the CPA, I think you could
15 maybe show that we gave it to them and got no response. I
16 am confused about how --
17 MR. BECRAFT: I think to address this question
18 of the government arguing closing, Your Honor, that they
19 were sent these letters --
20 THE COURT: Right.
21 MR. BECRAFT: -- and they went to her.
22 THE COURT: Right.
23 MR. BECRAFT: And she was silent. In response,
24 I think the defense can say, well, she received those
25 letters and at least turned them over -- sought counsel
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1 and turned them over to counsel. To directly address what
2 I see is coming up in closing argument --
3 THE COURT: Turned them over to counsel, for
4 what purpose?
5 MR. BECRAFT: Sought advice about what to do.
6 THE COURT: She has never said she had gotten
7 any --
8 MR. BECRAFT: We haven't got to the point of
9 turning it over to counsel.
10 THE COURT: Okay. Okay. I'm going to let you
11 ask the question, but then depending on how we go, it may
12 end up that Mr. Murphy has a motion to strike. I'm just
13 not sure -- I don't want to cut off -- if she has got
14 something meaningful to say on this point, I want her to
15 get a chance to do it.
16 MR. BECRAFT: But there's no legal opinion
17 given by lawyers that directly relate to this, Judge.
18 It's the mere fact that they were turned over to counsel.
19 THE COURT: Well, I think that's pretty
20 tenuous, but I think I ought to let her answer the
21 question and see what else -- you said that was stuff that
22 you needed to take, and then you had some other stuff that
23 you were going to take. Well, if there is another step
24 that follows that makes it relevant or just a preparatory
25 question or preliminary question, then it is an
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1 appropriate question. If it turns out that's the only
2 thing, Mr. Murphy's motion to strike will probably --
3 let's try it.
4 (The following proceedings were had in open
5 court.)
6 BY MR. BECRAFT:
7 Q. Ms. Kuglin, in response to those letters that you
8 received from the IRS, let's talk about them collectively, 48
9 through 54.
10 A. All right.
11 Q. Did you seek or -- let me ask you this: Are you
12 familiar with or what familiarity do you have with
13 administrative procedures regarding federal income taxes?
14 A. I'm familiar that there are special procedures that
15 need to be followed. I am familiar, and I can't quote again,
16 I don't have the documents up here, that I have a right to ask
17 questions, I have the right to seek counsel and I have a right
18 to have hearings, and that there's specific procedures that
19 must be adhered to.
20 Q. Did you have -- in your studies, have you sat down and
21 studied the point of what you should do if you get letters
22 from the IRS?
23 A. The -- the letters needed to be responded to within a
24 certain period of time and --
25 Q. Listen to my question.
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1 A. Yes, sir.
2 Q. Have you studied -- you have told us at length what you
3 have done in reference to the study --
4 A. Right.
5 Q. -- the substantive tax law itself, my question that is
6 now pending is on a different matter, but it relates to taxes.
7 Had you engaged in any type of a study regarding
8 administrative procedures in dealing with the IRS?
9 A. I know I have. I know I have. I'm not --
10 Q. Okay. That's fine. Have you studied it in detail so
11 you would comfortable enough --
12 A. I have read it over. I did not feel that I knew enough
13 to respond, do the legal responses that I felt that these
14 letters were requiring.
15 Q. And did --
16 A. And so as a result of that, I felt that since I was not
17 getting responses to the letters I had written that perhaps
18 they were not in the proper format and that if I hired legal
19 counsel, someone to write the letters for me, that the -- all
20 the intricacies that were required would be in those letters,
21 and I wanted to make sure I had someone who was asking the
22 same questions that I had been asking.
23 Q. To your knowledge, did your counsel offer any --
24 MR. MURPHY: Judge, we're now at a point that
25 it's not relevant.
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1 MR. BECRAFT: I will back off, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: Thank you.
3 A. I'm just not quite sure what I'm allowed to answer and
4 what I'm not allowed to --
5 Q. There's no question pending, don't worry about it.
6 THE COURT: Right.
7 Q. Ms. Kuglin, in your studies of the income tax, Mr.
8 Murphy pointed out a couple of cases to you where maybe some
9 of your issues have been raised by other parties, do you
10 recall that?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. He mentioned this Wunder case.
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Have you ever heard of Wunder?
15 A. I don't believe that I have heard of Wunder.
16 Q. And have you engaged in any type of a study down at the
17 law library or on any other occasion? I want to find out if
18 there are other cases that may relate to the ones that I
19 believe in?
20 A. Well, I can probably -- I have got a list of cases that
21 I have read. There's merchants -- some of the documents
22 explain the cases, if I might look at the documents.
23 Q. Okay.
24 A. There are cases like Isner versus McCulmer Merchants
25 Loan and Trust that address these same issues that we have
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1 been talking about.
2 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
3 response. It's --
4 THE COURT: I think it's --
5 MR. BECRAFT: Let me back up.
6 THE COURT: It's nonresponsive.
7 MR. BECRAFT: Your Honor, I will back up and
8 ask another question.
9 THE COURT: I think we need to ask a question
10 that can be responded to.
11 Q. Cases that were brought to your attention were brought
12 to your attention in some particular way, is that correct?
13 A. That's correct.
14 Q. Would you have cases brought to your attention by the
15 various materials that you would read?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 Q. Okay. And if you saw a case in the materials that you
18 read, would you go down and try to locate the case and read
19 it?
20 A. Yes, I did. That's what I did.
21 Q. Did you make any effort to go to try to find cases that
22 you didn't know anything about?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. About cases that you did not know anything about?
25 A. No, these were cases that I had -- that I had not
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1 personally read that I didn't know -- I had read quotes from
2 the cases and I looked at these cases, the ones that I felt
3 would answer some of the questions that I had.
4 Q. Okay. Listen to my question.
5 A. Yes, sir.
6 Q. When you wanted to read a case and when you wanted to
7 go get it, did you find out about the case in some materials,
8 explanatory materials that you were reading? For example,
9 pull out that folder one to Claire Kelly.
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. Would the Claire Kelly article be similar to other
12 articles that you would read?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Did these articles that you read mention court cases?
15 A. Yes, it did mention court cases.
16 Q. What, if any, effort did you make once you saw a case
17 in such material as such, what effort would you make to try to
18 read the case?
19 A. I would go down and read the case and copy the case.
20 Q. Okay. Now, for cases -- there are obviously cases that
21 were not mentioned in your reading material.
22 A. There were cases that were mentioned in the cases
23 themselves that I would go back and look at some of those
24 cases which substantiates some of the arguments in those
25 cases.
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1 Q. But you wouldn't -- if there was some case --
2 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to him
3 leading.
4 THE COURT: Yes, objection sustained.
5 Q. In reference to this case that Mr. Murphy asked you
6 about, the Wunder case, had cases like that ever been brought
7 to your attention by your reading material?
8 A. I don't know that specifically the Wunder case had.
9 Q. Okay. Would you know about the existence of any other
10 cases other than what you would discover in your reading
11 materials?
12 A. I would hear about cases when I went to seminars and
13 people who talked about the different cases.
14 Q. Now, looking at this from the totality.
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. Were there any cases that you had learned about through
17 this way that you were pursuing in reference to studying that
18 gave you any indication that what you were reading and
19 studying was wrong?
20 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object to the
21 leading.
22 A. No.
23 THE COURT: I think it is simply too suggestive
24 of the answer. A leading question is one that suggests an
25 answer, and kind of like pitching somebody a softball, and
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1 we don't let them do that, because we want to actually
2 have a real answer. So I'm going to have to sustain that.
3 I explain a little bit to the jury so we all understand
4 that we need to avoid that.
5 Q. What, if any, cases adverse to your position was
6 brought to your attention?
7 A. Well, the Pollock case, for one thing, was adverse to
8 my position.
9 Q. In what way?
10 A. In the fact that it determined that an income tax was a
11 direct tax rather than an excise size tax.
12 Q. What, if any, other cases were brought to your
13 attention that indicated to you that your beliefs were
14 erroneous?
15 A. Let me think on that one just a little bit.
16 Q. Let me withdraw it and I will frame it a different way.
17 A. All right.
18 Q. Did you ever learn about any cases that might have
19 dealt with your issues that you talked about here in court
20 over the last day and a half?
21 A. I don't know if I'm just tired or if I'm missing the
22 point of the questions.
23 Q. Let me frame it another way. In your studies, in what
24 you read, what, if any, cases did you find that rejected your
25 arguments? Did you find any?
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1 A. No. I found quotes in cases that I read that discussed
2 other cases and differing opinions, but there were always
3 answers to those opinions explained in the cases given down
4 by -- you know, the decisions given down by the judges in
5 those cases.
6 Q. All right. Good enough.
7 A. So they questioned it, but they also gave an
8 explanation as to why those were not valid.
9 Q. Mr. Murphy, during cross, brought to your attention
10 this big thick book that we have had here this afternoon, the
11 Code of Federal Regulations.
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Have you seen that type of book before?
14 A. Yes, I have.
15 Q. Whereabouts?
16 A. The Code of Federal -- excuse me, it's in the library.
17 Q. Now, he directed your attention to a particular
18 regulation, is that correct?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. 1.6012-1, correct?
21 A. That's correct.
22 Q. And you testified that you have seen that before?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Why does that regulation in your view not apply to you?
25 A. Let me go to the regulations or to the code, and I
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1 don't have that regulation sitting right in front of me.
2 Q. Let me ask you this question: Can you turn to Section
3 1 of the Internal Revenue Code?
4 A. Yes, I can.
5 Q. You were asked questions about tax imposed.
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. In reference to corresponding regulations, do you know
8 what regulation corresponds to Section 1 of the code?
9 A. That is CFR -- 26 CFR 1 --
10 MR. MURPHY: Judge, I'm going to object because
11 I'm not sure what he means by corresponds because I don't
12 know that there's a corresponding relationship,
13 necessarily.
14 THE COURT: Well, I'm going to allow the
15 question on this one.
16 Q. Is there a regulation that applies to Section 1 of the
17 code to your understanding?
18 A. Yes, there's regulation 1.1-1.
19 Q. Have you read that regulation before?
20 A. I have read parts of that regulation before. I don't
21 know that I have read the entire thing.
22 Q. Now, did you come to any understanding or what, if any,
23 understanding did you have as to whether or not that
24 particular regulation solicited information?
25 Okay. I'll ask another question. Mr. Murphy brought
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1 to your attention that the Form 1040 instruction booklet has
2 an OMB control number?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. 1040 form has an OMB control number, right?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Have you looked through, I don't know the exhibit
7 number, but we have offered it into evidence, that big long
8 list of all these control numbers?
9 A. Yes, the control numbers that are in Section 602.
10 Q. And in that particular list of OMB control numbers --
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. -- did you see when you first started engaging in this
13 study that there were a lot of other regulations that listed
14 the same control number for Form 1040?
15 A. Yes, yes, I did. There was a large number of them.
16 Q. Okay. Out of that list of OMB